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  Re: Asperger's Disorder: Causes and Cures/Signs and Symptoms
« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2008, 09:28:38 AM » by jaemom
I highly recommend the book Enzymes for Autism and Other Neurological Conditions by Karen DeFelice.  I have a 2 yr old with "signs" as well.  She has improved greatly since going just dairy-free and adding some recommendations from that book.
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« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2008, 09:34:33 AM » by Hannahsmama
Thanks.  I added it to my Amazon list.

I'm guessing she's addicted to wheat, she LOVES bread and crackers, and I only introduced them a few months ago.  I already know she's allergic to milk products, but I let some slip in there sometimes so I'll be more careful.

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« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2008, 09:36:35 AM » by happyhomemaker
Our son (almost 4) had many of the same things if not all that you are talking about. He didn't walk untill 21 months and didn't talk till right around 2years.   Undecided Because of all the problems --we put him on Mannatech products, and really found that they made a difference. He started talking, and we could understand what he was saying. Big improvements all the way around. I kept a log of what happend and what he took...be glad to share if needed.  Also, we put him on something called Chelorex, a natural chelator.  Since we really felt like his prob. related to vacines he'd been "given"...we wanted to pull out the mercury that was the problem.  He took the Chelorex for 90 days 2 times a day.  We could really tell a difference, and now at nearly 4 years old...he is completely past the talking issues and and some days less talking would be nice!  Cheesy  We waited so long to hear his first words...actually, he started talking when he was really young but forgot and became un able to say the things he had leard {daddy, mama etc}. It was sucha delight to hear him talk, it really opened things up for him. He went from my child who spent MUCH of the day crying in frustration, to a happy kid who could tell you what he wanted/needed.

I do hope you find something that helps. The way is long and very frustrating at times.  There is so much help on this webpage that I wish I had know about it then. The vaccinations thread is another good one to read. May the Lord give you wisdom to do what is right for you child!


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« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2008, 09:48:22 AM » by Hannahsmama
Thanks! I'll look into that stuff and bookmark it just in case.

She's not vaccinated, I suppose I should have said that.  She hasn't had any antibiotics or infection either.  She's had some ibprofen or tylenol (dye free) for teething

She also reacts really strongly to food dyes. She's gotten them 2 or 3 times and been up all night after it.

She's a very pleasant easygoing child, which is why I guess I'm not real stressed out.  She just happens to not be developing socially so I thought I'd see about doing something

She also doesn't walk at 18 months, but that doesn't really bother me. She did everything late, sat unassisted at 10 months, crawled at 13, and now she'll 'cruise' on the couch and stuff but didn't start doing that until this past month. 
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« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2008, 10:29:44 AM » by DHW
"Children With Starving Brains" by McCandless gives a pretty thorough explanation of tests and biomedical therapies.  The best results apparently occur when these therapies are instituted as early as possible, preferably before age 5.
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« Reply #35 on: April 03, 2008, 10:41:12 AM » by kper

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You may want to check out the Asperger's syndrome thread.
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« Reply #36 on: April 03, 2008, 10:47:20 AM » by Hannahsmama
You may want to check out the Asperger's syndrome thread.
HTH!

Can you give me a link? I'm not seeing it Smiley  Thanks!
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« Reply #37 on: April 03, 2008, 10:59:48 AM » by kper

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« Reply #38 on: April 03, 2008, 11:13:16 AM » by Hannahsmama
Just replying, I was told about this thread in the one I started Smiley
http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,16946.0.html

What have you all done to help your children? Is there anyone who noticed things early on, like 1 or 2 years?

Any tips for aspie toddlers?  We're trying GFCF next month, since I've gotta go on it too- she's still nursing.  She's never been vaccinated.
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« Reply #39 on: April 03, 2008, 11:13:51 AM » by Hannahsmama
Thanks! Didn't know where to find it Smiley
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« Reply #40 on: April 05, 2008, 09:45:08 AM » by mamaoffour
Hannahsmama:  I  noticed that at about 15 months that my son exhibited some weird behaviors.  He started getting obsessed with the alphabet, numbers, and things that spinned.  He was also obsessed with lining his cars and trucks up.  He had an amazing memory from about 8 or 9 months on.  We didn't know any of this was abnormal until he started having sensory issues.  My son learned to read at the early age of 2!!  If you google the word "hyperlexia" you will find information on the subject.  My son is now almost four and probably reads on a 3rd grade level or higher. We are now dealing with obsessive compulsive problems.

I would start of the GFCFD right away.  We have been on it for over a year now with big improvements.  He is healed by any means, but would show much more autistic symptoms if on milk or wheat.  He also has other allergies as well: corn, mold, ragweed, dyes, tomatoes, preservatives, artificial flavors, and almost all fruits so far.  The more we avoid allergens the better he does. 

Just remember to trust your gut, it will never fail you.  I'm still looking for ways to help cure/heal my son.  If you read the Sensory Integration Disorder thread you will find lots of information on my son before the diet and also our struggles with finding out what was wrong with Noah.  There is lots of helpful tips and websites for you to research on.  Warning, it's very long but informative.

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« Reply #41 on: June 18, 2008, 03:53:10 PM » by mamaoffour
I just wanted to let everyone know on this thread that my son Noah, who is now 4, just got diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome today.  No surprise to me, it just confirms what I knew all along.  This thread will hopefully be very helpful in finding ways to help Noah cope socially.  Please feel free to chime in on helpful ways to build our children up socially.  Noah struggles so much in this category.  How do you teach your Aspie children in social situations?  This is the most daunting task for me right now. 


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« Reply #42 on: June 18, 2008, 07:07:37 PM » by skelliott2
You know, social situations are always hard, but they do get better with age, and hard work.  When mine was younger, I would practice social situations with him a lot ahead of time.  For example, before my mom's big party, I would show him how to shake hands, and practice with him for a week ahead of time.  Then, I'd walk him around, let him shake a few hands, then get him out of the crowded room.

If yours is like mine, crowds and noise would always bring out the worst, so we'd just start going somewhere quiet when he'd get upset.  You know the signs...

He'd do a lot better around one or two children, but not for very long.  So, I started just letting him play with one or two children for a short time.  When he started melting down, we left.   

I guess social situations just take practice, and age.  Mine got a little better every year.  Different treatments helped as well.  He had his first really two-way conversation with my mom after a few weeks on the essiac tea.  He started eating better (more like an adult, and less like a barbarian  Smiley) , after we did a yeast cleanse.  He started pronouncing the 'th' sound correctly on the first week of our yeast cleanse.  He totally stopped meltdowns after the enzymes.  I do think a lot of the social issues get better when their bodies start healing. 

I guess I said all that to say this:  The social gets better as their bodies get better.  So, practice, don't give him more than he can handle (as much as possible), and keep working on the physical healing.  The social abilities will come.
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« Reply #43 on: June 19, 2008, 07:11:43 AM » by mamaoffour
My son can sure relate to the crowds and noise......He starts going bonkers and can't really even talk because his sensory system is just in overdrive!!!  I do the same thing with Noah; we had to practice how to be quiet for my little brother's wedding.  I even showed him a video of my own wedding so he could see how still and quiet everyone else was.  You know what, it worked beautifully.  He was the best behaved kid at the wedding!  It made me proud!! 

Can you tell me what ingredients are in Essiac tea?  Did you give him the tea after or before you started the enzymes?  My son reacts to so many things, so I don't know if he can handle it or not.  I know sensitivities and IGg reactions can be caused from lack of enzymes, so I would really like to get the enzymes, but I'm hoping he wont react to them.  I had just bought some really good vits from Kirkmand sp? called Super-Nu which have a different form of Vit B-6, and my son couldn't handle them.  It made him very very hyper.  That was a whole 50.00 bucks down the drain! It would be so nice to find the missing link to some of his problems. 

Noah has been on Nystatin for about 2 or 3 months, but we stopped after we really didn't see much improvement.  I don't think he needs a yeast cleanse, but who knows, he could have problems with yeast overgrowth since his mom does.  In time I will find some more things that need to be addressed, such as: heavy metals, toxin levels, nutritional deficiencies, and more things.  Right now I'm doing some testing on Noah through our new Neurologist.  Someone is finally listening to me.  We have ordered a ASO titer(to check for strep bacteria), Myelin antibody test(check for antibodies against brain proteins), and a test to check immunoglobulins in the body IGg, IGm, and Ige.  I haven't gotten the results back yet, but I'm eagerly awaiting the results.  We did a porphyrins test and his levels were elevated.  In my "Children With Starving Brains" book they say this test can reveal children who are plaqued with mercury toxicity, which doesn't surprise me a bit.  I will continue to test and research on things that could be causing Noah's problems.  It's not just autism to me, it's more.  I will keep everyone updated.

Misty
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« Reply #44 on: June 19, 2008, 07:28:16 AM » by ShabbyChic
Hey Misty, make sure you keep us updated.  Your research is very thorough, and I appreciate it SO much.
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« Reply #45 on: June 19, 2008, 01:21:32 PM » by mamaoffour
I'm glad that my story and posts have helped people.  I still have to go back and reread everything from the beginning on the Sensory Integration thread because I'm tracking Noah's progress from then until now.  There have been huge improvements, but we still have alot to work on.  I really hope it can be an inspriation to all of those moms who feel like they aren't taken seriously and who need to find the truth out.  So far all of my suspicions have all been true.  My family is so shocked that he was diagnosed, but I'm not Grin  I'm not sad or really down, I'm just kind of relieved.  I can move on and continue to do what I have been doing....and that is research.  God gave me my child this way for a reason, so I know there is something there so deep that only God knows.  Maybe I'm suppossed to write a book, be a mentor, or an Autism advocate speaker, I don't know but I know God knows.  I have such drive to follow along with what I have been doing, I want to help as many moms as I can.  Hopefully, after more testing an experimenting with different options and treatments for Noah I can pull him out of his Autistic ways.  I don't want to change him, I just want to heal what's broke.  Thanks for all the support.  I could not have done this or dealt with my child without WellTellMe or God. 
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« Reply #46 on: June 19, 2008, 01:26:02 PM » by mamaoffour
Here is an article on Porphyrin testing sp??  It's not directly related to Asperger's Syndrome, but I thought it touched base on the importance of heavy metal toxicity in children with all autism disorders.  Noah already had a test done at his Neurologist and his results were elevated.  Here ya go.

http://www.stillpointhealth.com/PorphyrinTestingforHeavyMetals.html
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« Reply #47 on: June 19, 2008, 05:45:12 PM » by Linguist77
Hi Misty!

We've talked on here before ... all three of my sons (and myself) are Aspies, although only my oldest is officially diagnosed. We're also having a very frustrating time; right now our main project is ridding the entire house of gluten and trying to replace everything we had to toss. :-(

Anyway, I'm writing to mention that my extremely sensitive children do fine with Kirkman's Spectrum multi, the hypoallergenic powder version. We add the plain B6 to that. It's the first multi-vitamin they've tolerated without either vomiting or difficulty breathing.

Somebody else mentioned allergies to almost all fruits. Well, that's us, and I'm not quite sure why. If the kids get any fruit (avocado is the only exception), they go crazy and cannot control their pee. Meaning, they go wherever they are and whenever, and they don't know it's going to happen ... suddenly it's puddle city. So they have to avoid pretty much all fruits and lots of veggies. Even coconut and palm oils cause this reaction. Our naturopath doesn't even know why. I would love it if someone could shed some light on this.

Gotta run!
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« Reply #48 on: June 19, 2008, 06:08:19 PM » by DHW
I recently read "Children with Starving Brains" by McCandless.  Another great book for putting together the pieces of the puzzle.

 Lots of recommendations for treatment options, with particular emphasis on healing the gut.  Written by a physician and grandmother of an autistic girl.  The doctor is now treating autistic children.  Major improvements occurred with her granddaughter after implemention the GFCF diet and various other measures, all outlined in the book. 

This is one you can give to your doctor to get him on-board with biological interventions, if you do not have access to a DAN! doctor.
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« Reply #49 on: June 19, 2008, 07:13:19 PM » by herbalmom
Somebody else mentioned allergies to almost all fruits. Well, that's us, and I'm not quite sure why. If the kids get any fruit (avocado is the only exception), they go crazy and cannot control their pee. Meaning, they go wherever they are and whenever, and they don't know it's going to happen ... suddenly it's puddle city. So they have to avoid pretty much all fruits and lots of veggies. Even coconut and palm oils cause this reaction. Our naturopath doesn't even know why. I would love it if someone could shed some light on this.

Laura,

My guess would be that fruit is feeding yeast/fungus. Avocado is very low carb so it doesn't feed yeast/fungus. My guess is that the veggies they can't eat are the starchy, higher carb & antifungal ones. As far as the coconut & palm I know coconut is antiyeast/ antifungal & I wouldn't be surprised if palm is also. Just the fact that palm has good fatty acid in it could make work as an antifungal in your DS's bodies if the good fatty acids help their bodies to work better, KWIM?

As far as how BOTH yeast fungus feeding & anti fungal can cause the same thing it could be a reaction to the TOXINS the yeast/fungus puts out. Those toxins occur both when yeast/fungus is growing & during die-off. These 2 posts might shed some light:

My oldest used to wet the bed ONLY when he ate dairy &/or large amounts of carbs/sugar. Also, I have both yeast/fungus issues & allergies. Often when I overdo on carbs or eat foods I'm allergic too I have urinary frequency & urgency. HTH Blessings ~herbalmom

It could be yeast/fungus. Carrot juice is an antifungal. It's not a real strong antifungal but it is an antifungal. Yeast/fungus can cause water retention. I have serious problems with yeast & have major problems with water retention. ANYTIME I start taking antifungals (anti yeast) again after not taking them for a while I know I will lose water weight. Time after time I have eaten LOTS of roasted garlic w/dinner (like half a bulb- gives me heartburn for a while but SOOOO.... good) & I spend half the night peeing- even when I don't think I'm retaining water. Here is a thread that explains a lot about it:

Ankle Pain and Swelling: I need help.

Here are some threads to learn more about yeast/fungus:

Leaky Gut:  The Cause of it All?
I Think I Have Candida and/or Leaky Gut:  What Now?
Candida / Yeast: Symptoms & Cures
Candida Cleanse Without Supplements
Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
Natural Antifungals
Die-Off from Candida/Yeast: Causes, Effects, Risks & Reduction

HTH Blessings ~herbalmom

The thing to keep in mind with these 2 posts & in relation to your DS's is that I can go from not needing to 'go' at all to 'I gotta go, NOW or else' in a matter of just a couple of minutes. High carb, (feed yeast/fungus) eating something I'm allergic to, (dairy &/or gluten) OR taking antifungals (die-off)- they can ALL do that to me. Not every time but they do do it to me part of the time. Take your DS's where their bodies might not notice body signals as much as an adult does & I could easily see where you could end up with 'puddle city'   

I could be totally wrong with this but it's something to start with, anyway. I hope it helps. Blessings ~herbalmom


   
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« Reply #50 on: June 19, 2008, 10:06:19 PM » by DHW
I have also noticed that a person may be intolerant of foods that should be helpful in combating yeast or metals (particularly garlic, onions, and other sulpher-containing foods).  They can definitely exacerbate symptoms.  I think if the toxic load can be reduced quite a bit then these might be incorporated in the future as part of a detox regimen.
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« Reply #51 on: June 19, 2008, 10:21:27 PM » by mamaoffour
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Laura, Hmmmm. Your kids sound like mine.  Noah is so sensitive to fruits but instead of peeing all the time he just runs everywhere!! Roll Eyes  He becomes the Tazmanian devel after eating almost every kind of fruit.  It so frustrating because I want him to be able to eat his fruit too, but he just can't tolerate it.  Have you tried enzymes on your children?  I know that fruits and veggies also contain high phenols which some autistic children can't handle at all because they are lacking the proper enzyme to break it down.  Do you or your children struggle with yeast issues or leaky gut?  I'm really starting to wonder if Noah  has this because he doesn't really absorb his food proerly.  He's hungry an hour after eating.  He also has symptoms of hypoglycemia.  It's such a jigsaw puzzle trying to figure out what to do for our damaged children.  Weren't you chelating at one point?  I thought I remember you saying something about this??  I know that eventually we will get to see our new DAN Dr. and that chelating will be something that can help Noah. 

That is so weird that your children have to go to the bathroom so much after consuming fruits.  That is really a mystery!!  Maybe their bodies need a particular enzyme?  Maybe a yeast cleanse would help?  That's all I can think of.  Good luck.  I hope you find the answers you are looking for.


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Hi Misty!

We've talked on here before ... all three of my sons (and myself) are Aspies, although only my oldest is officially diagnosed. We're also having a very frustrating time; right now our main project is ridding the entire house of gluten and trying to replace everything we had to toss. :-(

Anyway, I'm writing to mention that my extremely sensitive children do fine with Kirkman's Spectrum multi, the hypoallergenic powder version. We add the plain B6 to that. It's the first multi-vitamin they've tolerated without either vomiting or difficulty breathing.

Somebody else mentioned allergies to almost all fruits. Well, that's us, and I'm not quite sure why. If the kids get any fruit (avocado is the only exception), they go crazy and cannot control their pee. Meaning, they go wherever they are and whenever, and they don't know it's going to happen ... suddenly it's puddle city. So they have to avoid pretty much all fruits and lots of veggies. Even coconut and palm oils cause this reaction. Our naturopath doesn't even know why. I would love it if someone could shed some light on this.

Gotta run!
Laura
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« Reply #53 on: June 20, 2008, 09:36:47 PM » by skelliott2
Hi Misty!

We've talked on here before ... all three of my sons (and myself) are Aspies, although only my oldest is officially diagnosed. We're also having a very frustrating time; right now our main project is ridding the entire house of gluten and trying to replace everything we had to toss. :-(

Anyway, I'm writing to mention that my extremely sensitive children do fine with Kirkman's Spectrum multi, the hypoallergenic powder version. We add the plain B6 to that. It's the first multi-vitamin they've tolerated without either vomiting or difficulty breathing.

Somebody else mentioned allergies to almost all fruits. Well, that's us, and I'm not quite sure why. If the kids get any fruit (avocado is the only exception), they go crazy and cannot control their pee. Meaning, they go wherever they are and whenever, and they don't know it's going to happen ... suddenly it's puddle city. So they have to avoid pretty much all fruits and lots of veggies. Even coconut and palm oils cause this reaction. Our naturopath doesn't even know why. I would love it if someone could shed some light on this.

Gotta run!
Laura

Laura, I would have to agree with Misty on this one.  A lot of brightly colored fruits have phenols in them.  These are what Dr. Feingold discovered in children with ADD.  When they went on the Feingold diet, they calmed down a lot.  There are enzymes by Houston Neutraceuticals that handle just the phenols.  These are called 'No Phenol'.  You can find them on a google search.  It might be something to look into...

So sorry you're having to go through this.  I can really sympathize.  You have such a good attitude, though, and are doing the research and hard work, so I'm sure the results will come.  We'll be praying for you.
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« Reply #54 on: June 20, 2008, 10:09:19 PM » by skelliott2
My son can sure relate to the crowds and noise......He starts going bonkers and can't really even talk because his sensory system is just in overdrive!!!  I do the same thing with Noah; we had to practice how to be quiet for my little brother's wedding.  I even showed him a video of my own wedding so he could see how still and quiet everyone else was.  You know what, it worked beautifully.  He was the best behaved kid at the wedding!  It made me proud!! 

Can you tell me what ingredients are in Essiac tea?  Did you give him the tea after or before you started the enzymes?  My son reacts to so many things, so I don't know if he can handle it or not.  I know sensitivities and IGg reactions can be caused from lack of enzymes, so I would really like to get the enzymes, but I'm hoping he wont react to them.  I had just bought some really good vits from Kirkmand sp? called Super-Nu which have a different form of Vit B-6, and my son couldn't handle them.  It made him very very hyper.  That was a whole 50.00 bucks down the drain! It would be so nice to find the missing link to some of his problems. 

Noah has been on Nystatin for about 2 or 3 months, but we stopped after we really didn't see much improvement.  I don't think he needs a yeast cleanse, but who knows, he could have problems with yeast overgrowth since his mom does.  In time I will find some more things that need to be addressed, such as: heavy metals, toxin levels, nutritional deficiencies, and more things.  Right now I'm doing some testing on Noah through our new Neurologist.  Someone is finally listening to me.  We have ordered a ASO titer(to check for strep bacteria), Myelin antibody test(check for antibodies against brain proteins), and a test to check immunoglobulins in the body IGg, IGm, and Ige.  I haven't gotten the results back yet, but I'm eagerly awaiting the results.  We did a porphyrins test and his levels were elevated.  In my "Children With Starving Brains" book they say this test can reveal children who are plaqued with mercury toxicity, which doesn't surprise me a bit.  I will continue to test and research on things that could be causing Noah's problems.  It's not just autism to me, it's more.  I will keep everyone updated.

Misty

Misty, how great that he did so well at the wedding.  It is amazing what they can do with practice and hard work.  Mine used to do well at those type of events, also, but I'd go home absolutely exhausted, since it took so much energy to keep him calm.  But, this year, for the first time, I can just talk to the other grownups and not worry about him!!!!  This has been such a great year for us.  I'm not sure if age has anything to do with it, but I think all the things we've done for him have had a big part as well.

Here's the order of our treatments for him:

Age 5:  Yes, it took me a while to admit the big problem.  I researched on the internet, and took him off gluten and dairy.  Eventually we added dairy back (cheese, yogurt, later raw milk), since it didn't seem to bother him.  He calmed down a good bit, but still got very upset around noise, crowds, etc.

Age 7:  After he just stopped improving, we did some more research.  I got him essiac tea.  This is supposed to be cleansing for the blood and liver, it supposedly kills yeasts as well as gently chelating metals.  Now, I'm not sure if that's exactly what happened, since we weren't medical testing, but he improved a LOT.  That was when his conversations got a lot better.  He was also easier to homeschool.

We also took him off of all computer and video games at this point.  He would obsess over them endlessly.  He was REALLY good at them, and that was all he'd think about or talk about.  I figured it was hurting his brain, and even though it was limited, it just took over his mind.  If you watch Oprah, or any other show that shows autistic children, they seem like the only time they're quiet is when they're staring at a shiny screen.

Age 9: Yeast cleanse.  We followed the 'Body Ecology Diet' to the letter for about 3 months, then added back fruit for another 3 months.  we ate basically nothing processed for over a year.  We also added probiotics in the form of coconut kefir.  Now, sadly,  I'm not as careful as I was, but our eating is basically whole foods.  When we did this cleanse, he lost his speech problem (he couldn't pronounce the 'th' sound, he called it 'f').  We'd worked on this for years, but I really don't think he heard the difference in the sounds until the yeast cleanse.  He also got much better manners-more socially aware.

Age 11:  Enzymes.  These were the icing on the cake.  We started these about 6 months ago, and he improved so much again, that I wouldn't even call him autistic any more.  Just a little weird.  Smiley  But then, who isn't a little weird.  Smiley 

You were wondering if Noah would react to the enzymes -- it is possible.  Some people in my Body Ecology group said that their children reacted too strongly to them, so reations can happen.  I would maybe try some cheap ones, and see what happens.  We didn't really get results until we tried the better ones, but maybe the cheap ones would give you an idea of whether or not Noah would react.

He started out homeschooling with serious learning disabilities in reading and handwriting.  After trial and error, we did copywork, Handwriting without Tears, and lots of just reading to each other.  He now absorbs books--he'll read 300 pages in about 2 days.  He also writes stories.  His handwriting will never win awards, but you can read it, and he likes to write!!

We had a neighbor last year who is a child psychologist.  She watched him play with her children almost every day.  She told me that she would not give him a label now.  He's a little high-strung, but in the range of normal!!!!

It seems like every time I hit a brick wall with him -- one of those moments that just had me on my knees asking God what to do -- I would find something else, like essiac tea, etc.  Back when we figured out he had a problem, there was no alternative treatment for autism that we knew of.  Since we were self-insured, and not putting him on ritalin, we just didn't go to any doctors about him.  Trust me, I second guessed that a lot, and wondered a lot if I was doing the right thing, or denying him care that he should be getting.  I had a friend with 2 autistic children exactly the same age as my son.  She followed doctor protocol, and told me about the therapy, and exactly what the therapists were doing.  It wasn't rocket science.  I was doing all that and more with my son, except for the mind altering drugs.  At their ages now, both of our children are doing very well.  Her's are in mainstream school.  Mine could be, but I don't want that for him.  He greets every day with a huge, bright smile, wondering what we're going to do today, and every day I thank God for the gift that my son is to our family. 

I'm saying all of this just to show you what we've done, and how it's helped him.  Also, to encourage you. You have so much more medical help now, while he's young than I had.   When you do everything you can, and trust God to help you, you will know what to do.  You've even found out his diagnosis so much earlier than I did, so you have those extra years to help him!  You're such a great mother, and working so hard to help him, I just want you to know that it can be done, and Noah can improve!  I'll be praying for you. 

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« Reply #55 on: June 21, 2008, 06:31:32 AM » by mamaoffour
skeiott2:  Wow!!  That's truly amazing!  I sure hope our story ends like yours has.  Praise God for your successful recovery for your son.  I do agree with alot that has been said.  We will not put my son on mind altering drugs that will make him into a zombie. I would much rather have him high strung than sad and depressed anyday.  Children like ours can change the world!!  They are bright, eccentric, and extremely motivated in their own skin.  It's amazing to look back at Noah and remember when he first opened a book at the tender age of two and read aloud.  I couldn't believe it.  Noah has so much to offer the world; I wish I could look ahead 20 years and know what he will be doing with his life. 

I'm really thankful that I have wonderful insurance so that we can do some of the medical testing that is recommended by the DAN Doctors.  IT has been very very interesting!!  There have been so many things that have showed up on Noah's test, so I know he can be healed.  First I need to start healing  his immune system and his gut.  I'm going to start implementing things that I know will work for him: Houston enzymes, Essiac Tea, and some different probiotics.  We have also had big improvements with Noah since the age of two, but we are no way out of the woods yet.  There is a missing link that we haven't found yet, but I'm not sure what that may be.  Only God will know that. I pray everyday for more pieces to this mystery; I know with patience, diligence, and just plain old hard work  healing can be done.  Thanks for all your encouraging words.  It's so nice to talk to people like you who can relate to what I'm going through.


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« Reply #56 on: June 21, 2008, 11:24:57 AM » by DHW
skelliott2's experience is very similar to what is outlined in "Children with Starving Brains".  Amazing and inspiring that she was able to find those treatments that worked for her son, by the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
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« Reply #57 on: June 21, 2008, 02:25:47 PM » by mamaoffour
DHW:  Amen to that!  I have read that book, it's truly amazing!!  I'm doing some of the recommended testing right out of that book.  God just keeps opening new doors for us everyday.



Misty
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« Reply #58 on: July 06, 2008, 07:08:16 AM » by mamaoffour
Okay, just wanted to give an update on enzymes and my son with AS.  So far we are still making progress I think.  It seems like everytime I make a comment about Noah doing better we have an off day  Huh !  He seems to be much calmer since we started the enzymes.  We still have lots of behavior issues, but those kinds of things will get better with one on one therapy with mom!!  Most behavior issues we have are all on things that are not ritual or routine.  Anything out of his normal daily routine usually causes meltdowns.  He still is so much better since I started this jouney two years ago though.  Praise God for that!  I'm really hoping the enzymes will help heal his gut so he won't have any more food intolerances or IgG allergies.  I'm going to try the enzymes for at least 6 months and then start slowing adding things that are suspect back to his diet.  We have better results if I don't cheat at all on the GFCFD with him even though he is on enzymes.  The brand we are using is Houstons.  Thanks skelliott2 for the recommendation.  After a few months we will try detoxification methods if we haven't seen our new DAN Dr.yet.  Please pray that we continue to see results.  I just know this is also a missing link to Noah's problems. 

Misty
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« Reply #59 on: July 07, 2008, 06:50:42 PM » by healthybratt

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When it comes to healing the gut, have any of you tried homemade gelatin (from bone broth or stock)? It's supposed to be very healing for the intestinal lining and give the good flora an ideal place to settle down and raise a family.  Wink

I have been very curiouse about this, so I thought I'd ask.

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