Potty Training #2: Hints & Tricks

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Re: Potty Training #2: Hints & Tricks
« Reply #60 on: May 23, 2008, 03:15:45 PM » by m0mthegreat

My son has never pooped in the toilet regularly. He seems to not be able to get the poop out of his body even when I have him sit for 15 min. I have tried to get him to push, but nothing comes out. When he gets down, he will have about a tbspoon of poop in his pants with in an hour. It goes on this way all day.

I don't want to spank him unless it is on purpose which I can't be sure of since he has always had this problem. I need to be more consistant with washing with cold water, allowing no treats if there is no poop, feeding more poop friendly foods, and making him wash his own poop up. I have been washing it up because of the toxic nature of poop.

Thank you for all the advice.

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Re: Potty Training #2: Hints & Tricks
« Reply #61 on: August 25, 2008, 11:16:37 PM » by corriebeth

Do you think it is possible that my almost 3 yo DS could be pooping in his sleep?? I know, it sounds impossible... He is totally potty trained during the day for #1. But, he knows that I put a diaper on him for naps and bedtime (he is always wet when he wakes up) and he waits until then to poop. For the last week, we have been hosing him off with cold water. Still no change. Today, I put him into bed for nap time already half asleep... droopy eyes, etc. and I KNOW he fell right asleep... but when he got up (3 hours later

) he had pooped his diaper - but I could tell it had been in there a WHILE. So, when did it happen, and did he consciously do it???

At the beginning of potty training, he pooped in the toilet just fine, but in the last month, he has only done it 2-3 times.

Thanks for any advice!!
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Re: Potty Training #2: Hints & Tricks
« Reply #62 on: August 25, 2008, 11:37:06 PM » by clayton

All three of my children have been very different in their potty training experiences. My first was potty trained by 2 1/2 completly, and rarely had accidents afterwards. My second wasn't potty trained until after he was three, and I tried about everything there was to try I think. He simply wasn't ready. My third is in the process right now. He will be three in two more months, but he goes #2 in the toilet almost all the time, and if you stay on him, he goes #1 in the toilet too. That is totally backwards to how my other two were, but I think you have to treat each child differently. There is not a one way teaches all method (IMO). For my boys, I had to find something they cared about enough to want to go on the toilet consistiently for them to go. Once I found out what that thing was, Viola! They turned the corner. Just make sure you are not pressuring them, because you feel pressure. I mean, what if someone stuck you on the toilet, and said, now you can't get off of here until you go #2. I might be on there for a couple of days. Grin

LOL! I hope not, but that is just my .02 cents. Hope thing go well for you!

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Re: Potty Training #2: Hints & Tricks
« Reply #63 on: August 26, 2008, 08:58:13 AM » by lovetoreadmom

Quote from: m0mthegreat on May 23, 2008, 03:15:45 PM

With my DS, who is now 4yo, I only started w/ corrective measures when I knew he knew what to do and where to go. I told him very plainly that when I sat him on the potty he could go or not, but . . . if he went in his pants then there would be automatic consequences. I did this consistently for one month (seems like a long time, but I knew it was what he needed), and now he goes by himself, is dry at naptimes and bedtimes, etc. If he did go in the potty, he got M&M's, which were *his* favorite reward.

In that area, you definitely have to find what works.

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Re: Potty Training #2: Hints & Tricks
« Reply #64 on: August 26, 2008, 10:39:16 AM » by miamama

Quote from: corriebeth on August 25, 2008, 11:16:37 PM

I definitely think he could be going in his sleep. Babies do it all the time. Even my 3 yr old DD who has been trained since May had that kind of accident in July. We were on vacation, she wasn't getting naps, going to bed late, etc..... And I personally think she was so exhausted that she didn't even wake up to go #2. She was mortified when she did wake up!
There is a post in one of these potty training threads that talks about making the child's body overcome their will by gving lots of #2 inducing foods (oatmeal, oatmeal cookies, fruit, veggies, juice, etc.) Sooner or later they are going to really need to go while on the potty and won't be able to resist. After a few times of that, he might turn the corner.
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Re: Potty Training #2: Hints & Tricks
« Reply #65 on: September 17, 2008, 07:51:02 PM » by wlwest

I am at my wits ends with my 3 year old dd. She has been potty trained for #1 for quite some time, but with #2 we have trouble. Now, if we are out somewhere, or whenever we go camping, or even to Florida in our RV for a week, she would poop in the potty. But as soon as we are home, she goes in her pants.

I've noticed she does it when she's hiding, like in her tunnel playing, etc. I've tried watching her like hawk, but there's just no warning with her. Today i saw the post about cold water, so I made her use cold water and wash herself up. She doesn't seem bothered with washing up, but she didn't like the cold water. i hope this works.

i even thought about making her stay right with me all day until she poops in the potty. Any other ideas?? I have never had this with my older 2 children, i have one more to go, an 18 month old boy!

It can't be because she doesn't want to stop to go, because she will stop playing to go #1? Huh

It's just stressing me out! Especially with homeschooling the older ones, and having to take time out for that.

Wendy

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Re: Potty Training #2: Hints & Tricks
« Reply #66 on: September 17, 2008, 08:01:13 PM » by happyhomemaker

Have you tried big girl underware? I know that sound dumb when you a dealing with an issue like this, but it worked for me.

I have a 4 yo boy, who even though he had been doing #1 for some time, enjoyed doing it in his pants for some reason. We tried, cold water (no affect), spanking, rewards, and other things I cannot remember. what really seemed to kick the habit for him, was putting him in his "big boy undies" during naptime. I was afraid that this would be one more mess to deal with, but he's not had ONE axcident yet of any kind. Now whenever he has to go (especially # 2) he runs and does it. He's the oldest and has 2 younger brothers. I think the idea of being a baby also seemd like a fun idea somehow. HTH

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Re: Potty Training #2: Hints & Tricks
« Reply #67 on: September 17, 2008, 09:01:30 PM » by wlwest

Yes, she wears underwear, only pull ups at night. If I put a pull up on at any other time, she will pee in it, so only at night. I even thought if i made a point to let her pick out underwear it might help, she got mermaid, Ariel underwear. So i told her not to go potty in them, or they'd be ruined, but it still hasn't helped. Cry

It's so hard to keep track of her thru the day, I get sidetracked ALOT!

I'm hoping the cold water might help.

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Re: Potty Training #2: Hints & Tricks
« Reply #68 on: September 18, 2008, 07:52:39 AM » by healthybratt

Quote from: wlwest on September 17, 2008, 09:01:30 PM

I'm hoping the cold water might help.

Be consistent. It make take a day or four. Cheesy

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Re: Potty Training #2: Hints & Tricks
« Reply #69 on: September 18, 2008, 02:36:01 PM » by happyhomemaker

Maybe it's time to try the undies at night? I haven't done that yet either, but so far we are over the #2 issue. Same here. If he stays in the pull up, he will keep right on using it. He has been dry on some mornings, so I think he can do it...not sure what I'm waiting on. Huh

We quit the cold water after trying it for SEVERAL weeks. I know it works for some folks, but my little guy just didn't care. In fact, it seemed like the more we did it, the more he made a mess. Not sure if he thought it was fun or what. HTH

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Re: Potty Training #2: Hints & Tricks
« Reply #70 on: October 10, 2008, 09:25:31 AM » by wlwest

Ok, so the cold water isn't working yet. I'm so upset over this!! I just don't know what to do. She just did it again about 5 minutes ago. And I had been asking her all morning. I just asked her if she had to go, she said no, and then I asked did you go in your pants? And she said no. Then my oldest dd said a few minutes later that she did. Angry

So I used cold water, closed the door and made her clean everything, herself, the floor, whatever. I made her put her underwear in the dirty clothes, etc.

She even says to me, mommy cold water, like she's good for telling me that.

So now I just have her sitting on the floor next to me. I guess I'm going to try and keep her by me all day. It's the only thing I can think of!

I just don't know if I will be able to keep it up, or if it's too harsh? I know she's doing it on purpose. There is now way it can be accidental.

Any other ideas!! help Cry

Wendy

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Re: Potty Training #2: Hints & Tricks
« Reply #71 on: October 10, 2008, 09:56:09 AM » by floydian

Sometimes kids just don't "get it" when they are asked if they need to go. There's a disconnect there.

One of my children, my second daughter, wouldn't 'have' to go poop ever if you asked her. Yet I knew she needed to go. She's very intense and very energetic. She would finally 'need' to go when I either put her down for a nap or for bed. She's still this way today. It's like that's when she finally relaxes enough to go.

I'm not saying that is what is going on with your daughter. I haven't kept up with your posts, sorry.

I am suggesting that it might not be rebellion and then again it might be. But, she really might not 'get it' when you ask her. That's a difficult concept to grasp as a toddler. Maybe she didn't feel that urge right at that moment. Maybe she just didn't want to make the huge effort because she was busy. Maybe she felt it, but thought she could hold it just a little longer. Who knows what goes on in the mind of a toddler? Roll Eyes

Have you tried rewarding for staying dry? Have you tried rewarding for both going and staying dry? Is pottying a drudge for you? Are you making pottying rewarding for her and fun for her? If it's a drudge for you, she might not want to deal with that. Again, I'm not saying you do this, I just know from past experience I was doing that to one of my boys and had to stop and retrain.

Have you tried the pottying in less than a day method? This has worked well for us with our first three. The last three we've pottied since birth.

Another idea is to put her potty next to yours and when you go, she goes. "Oooooo, let's go potty together, come on, I'll race you." And you go often whether you really need to or not.

Another idea is to let her be in the buff from the waist down for a couple of days on the kitchen floor right beside you so that you catch everything. Reward with a favorite treat for staying dry, and another favorite treat for going. If she misses, you get the favorite treat in front of her and she has to clean it up.

There are tons of ways to potty train out there. I've suggested a couple ideas. And eventually, I promise, she will be potty trained. There just aren't that many 5 yo's out there in diapers. Wink

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Re: Potty Training #2: Hints & Tricks
« Reply #72 on: October 10, 2008, 10:28:11 AM » by lovetoreadmom

Quote from: floydian on October 10, 2008, 09:56:09 AM

Sometimes kids just don't "get it" when they are asked if they need to go. There's a disconnect there.

I agree with this. It wasn't until my DS was saying to me, "Mommy, I don't want to go in the potty," that changed the whole game. When that happened I knew it was something that had to become a discipline issue, not just training. He was 3-1/2yo at the time.

Recently, we went through the issue of waiting too long to go and having accidents in his pants or on the floor. This was only with #1, so it was a little different but still a discipline issue.

Have you ever tried to put her in the bathroom on her potty and then wait outside the door (peeking in so she can't see) as she tries to go. Maybe you could give her a book to read, etc. My DS has no problem going #1 with me in the bathroom, but when he needs to go #2 . . . he wants his PRIVACY!! There is just something about it (probably the sounds and smells Tongue

) that I think is true for anybody/everybody. I know when I have to go I don't like for someone to be in a room nearby either. I make it as private as possible. If there is a way to do this with your DD and still keep an eye on her (maybe your older DC can help), then maybe she will feel more relaxed and comfortable with it.

The best thing right now for *you* is . . . RELAX, RELAX, RELAX. I know that's easier said than done, but we know how our tension transfers so easily to them. Undecided

If you are feeling pressured, she probably is also, and that's usually not a good combination for any type of "training," and then we know we have to back off for awhile.

Pray for the Lord's wisdom in this. He promises to give it to those who ask, and it's even true for an issue such as this.

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Re: Potty Training #2: Hints & Tricks
« Reply #73 on: October 10, 2008, 12:23:13 PM » by wlwest

Thanks for the ideas and encouragement. it's hard because she goes pee in the potty so well, no problems there at all. It's just #2. i guess I just need to relax some about it. it just makes you feel like your failing at your job as a parent! Maybe I could start rewarding everyone else for going #2!! lol Then maybe she would want in on it. Cheesy

I'm just going to have to try and catch her before she does it! She's pretty sneaky.

Wendy

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Re: Potty Training #2: Hints & Tricks
« Reply #74 on: October 10, 2008, 01:38:06 PM » by lovetoreadmom

Quote from: wlwest on October 10, 2008, 12:23:13 PM

Maybe I could start rewarding everyone else for going #2!! lol Then maybe she would want in on it. Cheesy

That's a GREAT idea!! Sometimes that can be the best incentive (knowing you're being left out)!

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Re: Potty Training #2: Hints & Tricks
« Reply #75 on: October 10, 2008, 01:48:06 PM » by hi_itsgwen

This is my tip for success. I was prepared for a week long ordeal, but this nipped mr. poopy pants in the bud in less than 48 hours. Grin

http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,1688.msg193348.html#msg193348

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Re: Potty Training #2: Hints & Tricks
« Reply #76 on: October 10, 2008, 05:58:55 PM » by southmom2k

I have two daughters 18 months apart. I have to admit I was not looking forward to potty training...The second daughter came along when my first was 18 months and the potty training just got overlooked with having the new baby. Well, now that they are 22 months and 3 1/2 they are more interested in using the potty. I began with the oldest one and she did well for a few days and then decided she wasn't going to use the potty. Well, the youngest was watching and caught on and now if I leave her in the buff (I put a dress on her though) she will not have an accident! (Except #2 is still an issue)...
Now, the oldest is back to using the potty partly bc of the pressure of the younger sibling doing it all day long...and I got smart and bought her some NEW underwear...again...
That day she went on the potty and has been ever since...
Every child is so different! I am still amazed that my kids are finally using the potty. I thought the day would not come for a long time!
Yay! No more diapers for me!!

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Re: Potty Training #2: Hints & Tricks
« Reply #77 on: October 10, 2008, 07:05:27 PM » by floydian

Quote from: wlwest on October 10, 2008, 12:23:13 PM

I'm just going to have to try and catch her before she does it! She's pretty sneaky.

Wendy

IMO, #2 is harder to know if you have to go because literally in less than 15 minutes you can have to. And too, it's a, "well, I sorta kinda gotta go, wait, no, wait yes....wait.... Huh

" It's hard for little ones to get used to knowing that feeling if that makes sense.

Rewarding others and not rewarding her is a great idea. I second it. Especially if she really likes that treat. Wink

"Wait, everybody gets ____ but me? Hmmmm....maybe I'll start paying closer attention..." Several motivators all at once help too.

Keeping her with you for a few days can also help and keeping a potty chair right there too so that it's easily available. Also like southmom2k mentioned, being buff below the waist is great for a couple of days of training.

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Re: Potty Training #2: Hints & Tricks
« Reply #78 on: October 11, 2008, 06:53:19 AM » by MommyGus

Quote from: hi_itsgwen on October 10, 2008, 01:48:06 PM

This is my tip for success. I was prepared for a week long ordeal, but this nipped mr. poopy pants in the bud in less than 48 hours. Grin

http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,1688.msg193348.html#msg193348

Cold water and a shower sprayer worked well for most of ours, except our last one, he doesn't care. I thought the above idea was a good one though. If my mom made me do that, I would be in a hurry to sit on the pot!! Grin

Our little guy that is potty training is doing well with poo since I started taking him about a half hour after meals, and I sit with him and read for a while if he doesn't poo right away, to give him a chance. Sometimes I take him when I hear (or smell Wink

) him toot.
She will eventually get it. Just be consistant and relax.
In HIM!
MommyGus

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Re: Potty Training #2: Hints & Tricks
« Reply #79 on: July 24, 2009, 11:54:07 PM » by YummyChicken

Ahhh!!
Gosh im so frustrated with the potty training!! Reading all these posts def. makes me feel better, that im NOT alone and not the only one having this problem with my song not wanting to poop in the toilet!! He also hides and can let out tsp sized poops all day!! Spanking or rewarding desnt help! We offered him a bike he REALLY wants, he was very excited at first about it, now when i sit him down to poop, he tells me,NO CANDY, Shocked

NO BIKE! NO POOP!!! And the cold shower seems very harsh to me... i know i wouldnt wana be put in there! That wouldnt make my poo cme out, it wold freeze it! :PLoL...HELP if theres anymore ideas!!!!

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Re: Potty Training #2: Hints & Tricks
« Reply #80 on: July 25, 2009, 12:58:50 AM » by Jade

Quote from: floydian on July 14, 2006, 11:53:33 AM

If you have older kids, let her see that they have gone poo poo on the toilet (after the fact) and reward with several M&M's or a treat. Also let her come in the bathroom with you after you have pooped. Reward yourself with several M&M's Grin

. Tell her she can have the treat too if she poops in the right spot. Talk about how wonderful the candy is "Mmmmm, these are soooo good, I wish you could have some, as soon as you poop in the right spot, you can!!" Tell the older ones to rub it in a little too. Give much praise to yourself and the older ones. Take away all fun treats, fruit she really likes, candy, fruit drinks until she poops in the right spot. This worked for 2 of ours.

With one of our sons, my husband took him in the bathroom with him once while going. He told me after that our son cheered for him after he pooped. "Oh wow Dad, yea, that's a biiiiig one." I had to explain we had been doing that with him lately for extra encouragement. My husband was more than a little amused. You might not want your daughter saying such things, but the boys think it's cool. It's a guy thing I guess Huh

I do realize that you posted that about three years ago, but I just now read it and laughed and laughed. Grin

There is so much good advice on here!

I just finished reading THREE pages to make sure no one had already mentioned this (and it was well worth it, since I got such a chuckle out of floydian's post Wink

), so I thought I'd throw another idea out there.

When I was getting ready to potty-train my son, I bought a potty training DVD. As so many people have wisely pointed out, a major part of the battle is figuring out how your child learns/what makes them tick. My child just so happened to love watching DVDs, and since it was a rare treat in our household, I figured it might do the trick.

I bought a DVD called Potty Power - for Boys and Girls, and it was worth every penny. My son didn't learn to go in the potty overnight, but the DVD introduced him to the idea that going in the potty was okay for somebody his age. He had been SO resistant to the idea; this DVD was a big step in the right direction. It's tastefully done, has a very warm, encouraging woman who does a fabulous job of talking them through the process, and several cheerful songs. Fair warning: the songs have a tendency to get stuck in your head, and you may find yourself singing "No more diapers for me!" - or worse, "Ya gotta wipe your bottom!" while standing at the checkout line at the grocery store.

But, as anyone who has potty-trained a child knows, if it works, that is a small, small price to pay. Wink

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Re: Potty Training #2: Hints & Tricks
« Reply #81 on: July 25, 2009, 07:51:41 AM » by wlwest

The only thing that worked for kid #3(dd), (she would poop in her pants but pee in the potty, cold water etc, didn't work either) was one night after dinner I just had candy corn and went around the table after dinner and asked everyone if they pooped in the potty, when I got to her I said no, you didn't go in the potty and skipped over her.

It had to be that way, leaving her out, and she only had one more accident and she always went after that. I couldn't believe it. I felt bad when I had to leave her out, but it worked. Offering treats to get her to go did not work either.

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