Hair Loss: Causes & Cures

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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #90 on: January 11, 2007, 09:43:53 PM » by 4myhoonie

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I have always had curly hair but duing this preganancy it's been getting straighter and straighter. Anything I can do? I like my curls.
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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #91 on: January 12, 2007, 12:39:38 PM » by ~esposita~

Is there any reason why the consumption of garlic could be related to HairLoss? i wonder because my dd seemed to be loosing her hair (an loves raw garlic) and dh is thinning out up top and is also always eating garlic. Any thoughts?

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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #92 on: February 03, 2007, 06:23:48 PM » by marklaurelhannah

I too am a new mama and have been experiencing hair loss. not knowing the root of the the problem is my concern. Busy and all I have been unable to read up on it. Wondered if you have had the chance? Also interested in Bar soap, contact me if you would be willing to part with the recipe. Marklaurelhannah@gmail.com

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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #93 on: March 08, 2007, 04:33:25 PM » by westernmama

Does anybody have any advice how to help me stop losing my hair? I have a 4 mo. and I started losing my hair about a month ago. It's really gross and happens after every baby. This is baby number four - I wonder what I'll look like after 10!! Shocked

It does grow back in, so I'm not worried that it's gone forever. But my husband (and me) is a little grossed out with all the hair I leave in the shower. Tongue

I was hoping that this time I would not lose it. I thought Rebekah Anast said that taking Supermoms helped that problem. I am taking 2 Supermoms per day. Maybe I am lacking in something else? I've also heard it's just a hormone thing. Which we all have plenty of, right?!! Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks!

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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #94 on: March 09, 2007, 09:26:30 PM » by messagemom

About losing your hair-I've never had this problem after pregnancy, but my sister and sister-in-law did. They lost quite a bit. Someone told them to take Biotin - 5mg\day I think. They both said it worked really well! I would go to a vitamin store to get good quality , and you probably can't get this big of dosage at WM. Hope this helps!

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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #95 on: March 09, 2007, 09:53:49 PM » by born-an-okie

I've been going through it myself, my boy is 6 mo. Shonda Parker's book says it happens because the hormones during pregnancy cause the hair to not shed as much. After a much longer growing cycle you can expect to have a lot more loss too. Don't brush wet hair, and I'd say don't comb it with anything but a very wide tooth comb. It should stop coming out so abundantly about 6 months after delivery. Mine does seem to be improving, but I also cut my hair much shorter because it was driving me crazy (both the length and the falling out). Scalp massage is supposed to increase circulation and stimulate growth. Good luck!

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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #96 on: March 10, 2007, 11:09:23 AM » by westernmama

Thanks, ladies. I do agree with Shonda Parker in that pregnancy makes it not shed as much. When I'm pregnant it gets so very thick. I guess it's just the falling out that is rather gross!

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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #97 on: May 15, 2007, 04:22:18 AM » by greenmountainmama

Sweet Greetings to all of you! I did read what was posted on hair loss, but I do have a couple of questions.

Before I ask, I will give a little background. I am 37 and a very happy mama of 7 children

After my 6th little one was 18 mos. I noticed losing my hair more than normal. I really have not regained the fullness I once had. It looks anemic and I think what bothers me the most, is that this is my glory, and I loved making it lovely for my husband!

What I would like to know, is does anyone know what systems in the body are stressed, and what stresses them to cause the hair loss? Outside of the hair loss, I can't think of anything else I am struggling with physically. My complexion, and skin as a whole is very nice. My weight is pretty good, outside of just have my seventh little one. My energy levels are a little low, but I liken that to being a busy momma.

Any info would be wonderful.

Thank you!

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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #98 on: August 31, 2007, 03:53:24 AM » by AbbaJava

I really don't like this part of post pregnancy, and I know it is coming everytime. So I look at it like I sacrifice my beauty for my babies. But I plead with God to allow me to grow my hair out long sometime in my life since long hair is a woman's glory.

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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #99 on: February 23, 2008, 12:12:04 PM » by TammyLee

I originally started this topic. I found out what the problem is and what I have learned might be helpful to others.

I have androgenetic alopcia - female pattern baldness. I realized I have been shedding for over 20 years, but the post partum hair loss accelerated the aga. I have done a lot of research on aga and the only thing available is Rogaine, which I have opted not to do. This has been an incredible learning experience for me and God has taught me all kinds of things, one being "I am not my hair".

Anyway, my hair is noticeably thin, and I have found out about concealers you can put on your scalp. It's like eyeshadow for your scalp. I ordered the same color as my hair. I apply it to my scalp with a big eyeshadow type applicator. The product not only colors my scalp, but will stick to my hair giving it more volume. My dh and I were skeptical, but I ordered it and after I applied it our mouths dropped. We couldn't believe how great my hair looked - no scalp showing. This is buying me some time until I have to go into a wig. I love it! It's easy to apply and is waterproof. I was feeling pretty crummy about myself, but God is so good....

I don't know if it's ok to say what it is. I don't sell it or anything, and it has been wonderful...

TammyLee Grin

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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #100 on: February 24, 2008, 11:46:17 AM » by healthybratt

I might be stubborn, or just a "bratt" Grin

, but simply accepting that hair loss is normal or something anyone must just endure just doesn't set right with me, so after the most recent post regarding androgenic alopecia, I decided to do some digging. HTH

They really don't make it easy for a person to find the right information, but my research led me to some very interesting theories and conclusions.

First what is androgenic alopecia? It is simply defined as hair loss related to or caused by androgen hormones which include: testosterone, androsteinedione, and dihydrotestosterone (DHT).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen

The most well-known and used treatment is minoxodil. So I looked it up and what I found is that an alternative treatment for baldness is an antifungal called ketoconazole. It's documented that this works because it is a potent 5-alpha reductase inhibitor. This article also mentioned that unsaturated fatty acids such as gamma linolenic acid are 5 alpha reductase inhibitors if taken internally. 5-alpha reductase is an enzyme that converts testosterone to dihydrotestosterone (DHT) in peripheral tissues.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-alpha-reductase_deficiency

When I saw DHT, my little red flag went up. This is the hormone also related to prostate cancer and low levels of testosterone. Then I find a connection between DHT overproduction and estrogen dominance - AHA! There was also mention of using Saw Palmetto in the wiki-article on baldness to inhibit DHT production which is also an herb used to help to prevent prostate cancer and other hormonal type disorders.

http://immunesystemetc.com/prostatecancer.html
http://www.custommedicine.com.au/mens-health/
(google dht low testosterone prostate cancer estrogen dominance for more information on the topic)

WTM already knows a lot about estrogen dominance and fatty acid nutrition, but many (up till now), may not have realized (me too) just how really important these are. They don't just affect PMS or an enlarged prostate or your digestion, but other important functions in the body related to correct hormone balance including this condition androgenic alopecia that many may feel forced or doomed to accept.

Now I have absolutely no proof, no experience, and no reports to post that will validate my conclusions. You'll have to read my links and follow the bread crumbs like I did and come to your own conclusions, but if I were the one losing my hair to this extent, here is what I would do:

1. Stop using ALL products containing SLS and other detergents that contain xeno(false) estrogens and contribute to estrogen dominance.

Sodium Laurel Sulfate (SLS)
Your Shampoo Might Be Your Problem: Going "No Poo"
Why and How to Skip the Soap...
Homemade Laundry Soap (Detergent Free)
Homemade Toothpaste & Other Dental Products
Toothpaste & Dental Care
Homemade Dishwasher Soap
Homemade Dish Washing Soap
Soap Making: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
Soap Nuts
Can your soap pass a drug test?

2. Stop eating any and all forms of unfermented soy. This contains phyto(plant) estrogens that also contribute to estrogen dominance.

Soy Bad, Soy Good: The Pluses of Fermented Soy

3. Stop eating all meats (and their dairy products) and poultry which have either been fed soy meal or have been given hormones during their life cycle.

Finding [Buying] Range Fed, Antibiotic & Hormone Free, Organic Meats
Raw Milk Suppliers List
Non Dairy Milk: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
Homogenized Milk/Dairy Products

4. Research and find out how to balance (not just increase) your fatty acid intake.

Win the War Within
Inflammation & Diet [Recommended Dosages & Diet]

5. Consider herbs that will reverse estrogen dominance.

Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
Progesterone Cream: How, Why & When to Use
Wild Yam Root and hormones?
Homemade wild Yam Cream
What kind of progesterone supplement should I take?
Saw Palmetto Berries: What, When, Why & How to Take
Jungle Juice Tincture: Preparation & Tips

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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #101 on: February 24, 2008, 01:14:36 PM » by CountyCork

HB - here's my question. If it is an estrogen dominance issue, then why do so many pictures and paintings from centuries past show balding men (think Geo. Washington)? They didn't have hormones in their foods, didn't use chemical personal care products, and didn't consume soy, either at all or very little.

Since it doesn't seem to be a problem limited to our modern times, what caused male balding in decades and centuries past?

Not trying to be arguementative, but wanting to know more info. Thanks for your research. Wife of balding husband anxiously awaiting more answers . . . Undecided

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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #102 on: February 24, 2008, 01:55:19 PM » by his.silly.wife

Quote from: CountyCork on February 24, 2008, 01:14:36 PM

Since it doesn't seem to be a problem limited to our modern times, what caused male balding in decades and centuries past?

I honestly thought it was genetic. The men in my family have "receding hairlines" this includes my uncles who were born 90+ years ago. They weren't raised on hormone fed beef, and other such things, but all started to go bald as they entered adulthood.

I believe some families pass on "full heads of hair," "thin hair" and "no hair." Generally speaking. However, if someone is balding, and there is no history of thin-no hair in their family, then I would look into what could be causing it.

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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #103 on: February 24, 2008, 02:16:59 PM » by CountyCork

I always understood that male pattern baldness was passed through the mother's side - if you want to know what your hubby will look like, look at his mother's male relatives (her dad and brothers). And my husband looks just like his maternal grandfather and uncle! As far as hair goes. My father and brother have full thick hair, so my boys technically are supposed to have that to look forward to.

However, if there are things we can do now to help it, I'm all for it!

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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #104 on: February 24, 2008, 02:17:16 PM » by healthybratt

Quote from: CountyCork on February 24, 2008, 01:14:36 PM

Male pattern baldness has long been thought a genetic ressesive gene passed only on the mother's side. Mom carries the gene and gives it to sons. This is supposed to explain why balding fathers often have hairy sons and visa versa. I understand and have studied this genetic factor, but I wonder if there isn't more to it. As far as years past, I don't really know. It would be interesting to know the connection, but as far as the estrogen dominance theory, protecting hubby's prostate and sexual drive would be just as important, I think, so making sure hubby isn't estrogen dominant for these reasons and then watching to see if the hair growth changes, sure couldn't hurt. If I come up with something more substantial, I'll let you know.

Here's an article that explains the genetics as I understand them.
http://www.essortment.com/malepatternbal_rcad.htm

Notice I said "male" pattern baldness. This genetic feature so far as I know is not supposed to affect women, which is why I decided to dig. It seems to me that many males may be affected in the much the same way and that to allow the media to make us believe that hubby is losing his hair due to genetics just because it might be true for some might be a good way for companies to sell more minoxodil. What if your husband doesn't have the gene (if there is a gene) and you could virtually reverse his hair loss with some diet and hygeine changes. Wouldn't it be worth the effort. For some maybe not, but I know my husband values his hair very much.

One other factor mentioned was also a deficiency of fatty acids. I'm sure there were those in past history who ate too much sugar and not enough butter and may well have been affected in this manner. Remember George Washington was said to have wooden teeth. Maybe he had a severe sweet tooth. Wink

HTH

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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #105 on: February 24, 2008, 02:23:47 PM » by CountyCork

Hey - I am all for protecting hubby's manhood and drive! And I must say, it is a gift I'd like to give with my son's to their wives when they get married! Wink

Best wedding gift! Next to the boy himself.

I have some lady friends who've had hair loss trouble, and almost across the board they've been dianosed with hormone imbalance. And women with facial hair can trace it to that, too, often.

HB, does there seem to be any evidence, that with the genetic pattern, some of the balding could be stopped, slowed, or reversed using good nutrition and eliminating foods and chemicals? Or are we stuck, and the only ones who can be helped are the ones with the good genes?

As long as my dh doesn't start to grow hair in his ears or nose, I don't mind so much if it falls from his head. He was already starting to get a shiny forehead in college when we met (he was 20), so it's part of the package. I guess I still kinda like him!

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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #106 on: February 24, 2008, 02:29:41 PM » by healthybratt

This website says...that if you are a man, you must have both. You must have the baldness gene AND have low testosterone(high DHT) in order to go bald, so if he has one but not the other, he can keep his hair.

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Sorry to disprove a comforting myth, but the facts are more complex: Testosterone alone does not cause baldness. While artificially increased testosterone levels (e.g. those that result from the use of anabolic steroids) may hurry the natural progression of a pre-existing condition, and women exposed to high levels of testosterone may begin balding, merely raising androgen levels is not enough. The sufferer must have a genetic predisposition to baldness, and he must have low levels of androgen antagonists (hormones that either metabolize testosterone or block its absorption). To summarize:

* A man with the baldness gene1, high testosterone, and many androgen antagonists will have little free testosterone in his bloodstream: He will not go bald.
* A man with the baldness gene, low or moderate testosterone, and few androgen antagonists will have lots of free testosterone: He will go bald.
* A man without the baldness gene will not go bald without external causes.

http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=572440

This would still support the fact that if estrogen dominance is a factor in hubby, then by reversing this condition, you could in fact reverse or slow his hair loss.

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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #107 on: February 24, 2008, 02:36:00 PM » by CountyCork

You are so kind to do my reserach for me! Thank you! I'll tell hubs the news that the changes we've already made are good for him no matter what. And good for all of us.

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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #108 on: February 24, 2008, 02:52:19 PM » by TammyLee

Well, thanks for all the research! There are many different types of hairloss and all the information can be overwhelming...

My main reason for posting was to let other women know about using concealers. If this can be reversed, I am sure it won't happen over night, and I, for one, find using a concealer is very helpful in, well, concealing the scalp and therefore not looking bald. Grin

Oops, I forgot to add that I add that I have been using ketaconazole for seborrhic dermatitis on my face plus some roseacea. I've been using it for about 4 mos. - I think I have always had the dermatitis around my nose - I just didn't know what it was. The roseacea is new.

Also, within the past 5 years or so, I have become lactose intolerant.

I have not used shampoo in over 2 years but there is still some sls I could eliminate, I'm sure.

Hmmmm, something to think about.

TammyLee

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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #109 on: February 25, 2008, 12:04:30 PM » by healthybratt

Quote from: TammyLee on February 24, 2008, 02:52:19 PM

Your other symptoms you mentioned are symptoms of candida/leaky gut and I've mentioned these as possible causes of hairloss previously in the thread.

I Think I Have Candida and/or Leaky Gut: What Now?

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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #110 on: February 25, 2008, 02:11:02 PM » by Lovin'myHoneyinVT

Quote from: healthybratt on February 25, 2008, 12:04:30 PM

Quote from: TammyLee on February 24, 2008, 02:52:19 PM

Good old HB, always candida! I did a diet for forty days (Maker's Diet) and changed my shampoo to a natural soap and got rid of my Roseacea and stopped losing so much hair. The shower only has one or two strands now where I could have made a sock at the end of two months! Grin

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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #111 on: February 25, 2008, 03:33:47 PM » by Whiterock

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Good old HB, always candida!

Not always. But when she does bring it up, I'd be willing to bet that she is usually right.

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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #112 on: September 20, 2008, 09:42:27 PM » by hi_itsgwen

Personally, I don't buy the baldness=genes from Mom theory. My MIL has 3 boys. All three are losing hair in their early 30's. Her Dad and her maternal grandad and great grandad had heads full of hair and lived into their 80's. I have the pictures to prove it.

The other question about men balding through the centuries is an interesting one. This could seriously be related to yeasts/bacteria being passed through a family. I have read that a baby is born sterile, and the skin is colonized by the family's unique 'friendly' bacterias as soon as the baby is born and touched skin to skin. I've noticed that babies vary a lot in whether or not they keep or lose their first hair. I'm thinking this could be related to diet and your family's own bacterial profile. (This lends a whole new view to purity in the marriage bed and phermones...I bet that would be an interesting research project!

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So it's very possible that ole' George W's hair loss (and wooden teeth) are from a bacteria or yeast overgrowth. I think it's interesting to note that 'wealthy' men had a lot more access to wine/beer/alcohol (estrogen triggers?) and refined sugars than the common farmer. So wigs became the fashion.

Just some thoughts Wink

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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #113 on: November 05, 2009, 02:39:11 PM » by Jade

This isn't an "important" question, as I don't really have any "use" for the answer, but I've been mulling it over and figured maybe somebody else had some thoughts on it.

I've been doing some reading about some products offered by a company that specializes in Chinese adaptogenic herbs. I've used adaptogenic herbs in the past with grand success, so I don't doubt that many of the things they say about their herbs are true.

However... the herbalist who owns/runs the company is balding. Then I noticed a picture of one of the other people involved with running the company, and he had a very noticeable receding hairline. Presumably, these men take the herbs they sell. With all of the powerful things adaptogenic herbs do for you, it just seems weird to me that you would lose your hair while having access to all of these herbs. I realize that it may just be a coincidence that they both happened to be losing their hair, but if their herbs and perfect diet don't help, then does anything?

Two things: quite a few of the herbs that they sell boast a "libido-enhancing" factor, or improved fertility. The other factor is, I know that the master herbalist is into Taoism, which has some um... unusual practices. Assuming he practiced these things, such as Taoist muscle locking (retrograde ejacul*tion), it makes me wonder if that's causing the balding. If sperm ends up in the bladder instead of where it's "supposed" to go, what does that do to the rest of the system?

So... do herbs that improve fertility/raise libido cause balding? Or shall we blame it on the Taoist practices? Wink

The Taoist muscle-locking is explained here. Fair warning: while it's all very medical, I still wouldn't deem it "family friendly".
http://www.vasectomy-information.com/wordpress/?p=123

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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #114 on: November 09, 2009, 09:48:10 AM » by beccajo25

I wouldn't be surprised if they shave their heads for religious reasons. Huh

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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #115 on: November 10, 2009, 04:23:13 PM » by Jade

Quote from: beccajo25 on November 09, 2009, 09:48:10 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if they shave their heads for religious reasons. Huh

That's a good thought! Except these guys aren't completely balding. One is bald all over on top, and the other just has a drastically receding hairline. So I'm quite sure they don't shave their heads. I shall edit my post to indicate that they are balding, not completely bald.

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Re: Hair Loss: Causes & Cures
« Reply #116 on: November 10, 2009, 10:35:04 PM » by hi_itsgwen

OK...I've done a little searching on this topic, because I am already interested in hair loss and hormones (but mine would be postpardum related).

It appears that certain male 'activities' can raise a form of testosterone called dht, which does trigger permanent hair loss in men. I also saw links that suggest or question whether B6 or green tea will also raise levels of this potent hormone...but I am not adding or actually reading most of these links due to the sites that they are on. Tongue

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