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Vitamin D
« on: January 25, 2008, 02:37:50 PM » by GarlicMom

My Mother in Law is taking a very large dose of vitamin D I guess for a deficiency but I am concerned that she is taking too much of it. I've been reserching online for her because she is also concerned about it. The only thing I have found is that the highest recomendations are at 10,000 iu's a day by the CRN. Other than that there are recomendations of 1000 i.u.'s a day up tp as much as 2000 i.u.'s. Her dose is way above all of these if I am remembering correctly.
If anyone has correct info on this please share! Tahnk you and God Bless You Grin

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2008, 03:20:36 PM » by DHW

10,000 IUs per day would be the upper limit. Depending on who you refer to, daily recommended amounts vary from 1,000 - 5,000 units per day.

She needs to have her levels checked with a blood test to establish a baseline now, and then re-check in 3 to 6 months to see where she is. Vitamin D levels really cannot be ascertained any other way, plus she obviously needs to avoid toxicity. Because D is fat-soluble it can be harder to reverse than overexposure to a water soluble vitamin. (Actually D is more like a hormone than a vitamin and its effects are quite pronounced through the entire body.)

Also, she needs to factor in ALL SOURCES of vitamin D and the accompanying vitamin A from supplements and high-D foods (i.g., store-bought milk is fortified) plus sun exposure (including tanning beds).

If she is not getting much D from other sources then supplementation is generally safe, even high doses for short periods of time. For a healthy person, higher amounts are recommended in the winter and less to none in the summer when sun exposure is adequate.

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2008, 03:43:51 PM » by BJ_BOBBI_JO

http://www.newstarget.com/003069.html

The above link is a site for info on VIT D and the illnesses it can cause if it is deficient.

I was recently DX as having vit D deficieny. The endocrinologist told me to take 800 units a day of VIT D. But I know I get more because my calcium pills also have D in them so Im actually getting about
1000- 1500 units a day for a few months now with no bad side affects.

IMO 10,000 does sound like a lot but then again I take over double the recommendations of calcium MGs with no bad side affects cause my body needs it. I wonder if she just needs a lot of VIT D ?

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2008, 12:24:24 PM » by Whiterock

Two great forms, that are easily assimilated by the body, are raw milk from grass-fed animals, and Cod Liver Oil. If you want the CLO then I highly recommend Green Pastures High Vitamin CLO. (I don't sell it or work for them in any way

) It is free of contaminates and heavy metals and you only have to take 1/2 tsp. You can take more though. And many people do during pregnancy. But you would have to take tablespoons full of most other CLO's.

WR

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2008, 01:07:04 PM » by BJ_BOBBI_JO

Any one know anything about the VIT D cancer connection?

Supposably vit D helps fight off cancer.

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2008, 01:23:53 PM » by Kati*did

Quote from: GarlicMom on January 25, 2008, 02:37:50 PM

One thing you might also consider is whether she is taking D2 (ergocalciferol) or D3 (cholecalciferol). You can take a lot more of the D2 form with unlikely toxicity problems because it is not as potent as the D3 since it is converted to the active form much more slowly. I have never had my D levels checked, but I understand your concern and am really careful about it myself. Ditto on the raw milk and CLO WR mentioned! I take CLO for my D in the winter, but just to be on the safe side, I switch to fish oil in the summer when I'm getting more sun.

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2008, 11:51:03 AM » by healthybratt

Quote from: BJ_BOBBI_JO on March 05, 2008, 01:07:04 PM

Any one know anything about the VIT D cancer connection?

Supposably vit D helps fight off cancer.

This might give you some helpful infomoration.

http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,15388.msg147403.html#msg147403

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2008, 04:07:36 PM » by GarlicMom

Thanks for all the advise. She is now down to 800iu a day. She talked to a woman who was researching V-D and she told her that once you start taking V-D you have to continue. That your body doesn't make it anymore. But from her doctor she must have been not making it anyway. Gota Go

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2008, 08:17:19 PM » by Whiterock

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She talked to a woman who was researching V-D and she told her that once you start taking V-D you have to continue. That your body doesn't make it anymore.

I don't see how that could be true. Huh

People have been eating foods high in vitamin D for hundreds of years and continued to make vitamin D.

WR

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2008, 04:13:39 PM » by HappyWifey

Does anyone know of a plant source for Vitamin D? My dh and I have been trying to get pregnant for about a year and a half now with no results. My grandmother told me today how they had been unable to conceive for 6 years and she went in and this doctor ran her blood through an ultraviolet machine and he said that in about a year they would have results. She didn't say if within that year she had my uncle, or if after the year she got pregnant, but apparently women who live and have lived for many years in climates where they don't get much sun, they need lots of Vitamin D in order to get preggo.

My grandmother recommended Cod Liver Oil, but DH wants me to find a plant source. We do drink raw milk kefir.

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2008, 04:32:33 PM » by herbalmom

I believe sunflower seeds contain Vit D.

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2008, 05:50:09 PM » by HappyWifey

I wonder how many sunflower seeds I would have to eat every day! Cheesy

Isn't tahini made from sunflower seeds?

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2008, 05:56:03 PM » by herbalmom

Tahini is made from sesame seeds. Sunflower seed butter is made from sunflower seeds. I have no idea on how many you would need. Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure that sunflower seed sprouts also contain Vit D as well. HTH Blessings ~herbalmom

Edited to add: sunflower greens (sprouted sunflowers grown for about a week to small plant stage) also have Vit D.

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2008, 06:00:59 PM » by HappyWifey

Yes it does help thanks, I LOVE sunflower seed sprouts!

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2008, 11:54:30 AM » by kittyninja

Quite a few months ago I was doing some research on Vitamin D because my mil had blood work done and discovered she is low and the dr. put her on a crazy expensive high dose supplement. It made me think since vit d apparently is naturally produced as a hormone- that's why sitting out in the sun helps produce it. I came across this article http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080125223302.htm. It's fairly recent and very interesting. Anyways, I'm all about researching both sides of the spectrum in order to have all my ducks covered (is that the phrase and if so why?)

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2008, 01:10:47 PM » by healthybratt

Quote from: kittyninja on October 28, 2008, 11:54:30 AM

You're mixing your metaphors. Wink

That would be "bases covered" and/or "ducks in a row". Grin

But, if you want to cover your ducks so they don't get cold, that would probably be okay, too.

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2008, 01:26:06 PM » by kittyninja

thought so didn't sound right...awwww....brain cells sweet brain cells....

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2008, 03:52:35 PM » by NotLuckyButBlessed

Quote from: kittyninja on October 28, 2008, 11:54:30 AM

Well KN,

Whether it is your ducks or your bases that are covered, I appreciated your link. Wink

I found out my Vit. D is almost dangerously low (regular is 35-55, dangerous is 15 and lower, mine is 16. Cool

at the same time I found out my kidneys are not functioning properly. Am still in investigative stages as to what is going on with kidneys.

So, while that article is a little scary for me, it does make sense that the D deficiency may be related to something more than not getting enough sun -- although I do live in the Pacific NW so I probably do not get enough sunlight. And my mom has SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder) so maybe it is related.

My M.D. has had me on Vit. D drops and my N.D. had me stop, at least for a time, and go for 5 minutes per week to a tanning bed with both UVA and UVB rays instead. She said these are usually the cheap ones with beds you lay down in, not the stand up kind. Apparently it also has something to do with seratonin. And she said I could cover my face with a washcloth. For only 5 minutes per week, I think it is a good option.

Thought I'd throw this out here in case anyone else is taking Vit. D.

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2008, 03:06:30 AM » by HappyWifey

A lot of Alaskan's use tanning beds to combat the winter blues... I wont ever do it again because of health concerns but it works!

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2008, 09:31:11 PM » by paradisemamma

Our DD just tested a 9 (very low) for vitamin D and a high alkaline phos test. Does anyone know any connections between the two results? Huh

I just bought "NOW" brand Vitamin D-3 2,000 IU's. Is that the right amount? Undecided

Any info is welcomed

Thank you.

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2008, 10:53:07 PM » by DHW

Read everything you can on www.vitamindcouncil.org, including the newsletter archives. Nine is way too low and you need to get it up quickly.

I suggest you email Dr. Cannell with questions, too.

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2008, 09:19:22 AM » by paradisemamma

Quote from: DHW on November 17, 2008, 10:53:07 PM

Read everything you can on www.vitamindcouncil.org, including the newsletter archives. Nine is way too low and you need to get it up quickly.

I suggest you email Dr. Cannell with questions, too.

Thank you for the website. Lots of info. Still reading. 2,000 IU's are reccomended for children. However are there risks of giving that amount to children that have tested for vitamin D as low as our daughter? I was unable to find the corrrelation between the high ALP and the low Vitamin D in any detail???

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2008, 02:19:57 AM » by NotLuckyButBlessed

Quote from: paradisemamma on November 18, 2008, 09:19:22 AM

Quote from: DHW on November 17, 2008, 10:53:07 PM

Read everything you can on www.vitamindcouncil.org, including the newsletter archives. Nine is way too low and you need to get it up quickly.

I suggest you email Dr. Cannell with questions, too.

I don't remember where I read info on it (maybe Dr. Mercola?) but I did read in several places that taking Vitamin D can suppress the immune system. I don't know if this includes all forms of Vit. D or any further details. I just know i did receive Vit. D drops from one N.D. (that I take my kids to) so maybe certain kinds are fine. My other N.D. has me going to the tanning beds for 5 minutes per week as I mentioned above.

I would research the immune system connection to Vit. D. Also, do you live in a gray weather area that would explain why she is low? Some say low Vit. D can be indicative of other problems, most specifically, it seems, kidneys not working optimally. Again, this is mostly from me perusing the internet lately because of my own low Vit. D. I am not a doctor and am not far enough into my own journey to speak with authority.

Also you could search Dr. Mercola's site for his Vit. D info as he specifically recommends a certain type of testing for Vitamin D.

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2009, 09:44:16 AM » by Kati*did

I just watched a phenomenal video done by Dr. Mercola on vitamin D3 and the epidemic deficiency going on. It is amazing what all vitamin D3 does in the body (especially in helping with cancer, as BJ mentioned) and how much we need it for general health -- particularly those with autoimmune diseases. The video is a little over 1 hour long, but is worth every minute, IMO.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/12/16/my-one-hour-vitamin-d-lecture-to-clear-up-all-your-confusion-on-this-vital-nutrient.aspx

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2009, 05:09:22 PM » by Julie G

I also saw the video on Mercola.com. I was looking around because my hubby's psorisis is really flared up and the steroid creams are not helping. One of his articles referenced the vitamin d video. After research and prayer we ordered the tanning bed on there.

I feel like in some ways I just got "taken" but the more I read about Vitamin D the more I think it will benefit our whole family. It's seems pretty out there that this would eliminate the psoriasis & boost our immune system, but so do so many other remedies.

Has anyone purchased a safe tanning bed? They are expensive, but if they keep my husband off of ineffective steroid creams and our family healthy...you can't put a price tag on that IMHO.

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2009, 07:54:52 AM » by Kitty

Just read about Dole portabella mushrooms having a good amount of Vitamin D through some "process". Anyone else?

http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/2008/081112.htm

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2009, 10:10:06 AM » by Kati*did

Quote from: Yooper on January 16, 2009, 07:54:52 AM

Just read about Dole portabella mushrooms having a good amount of Vitamin D through some "process". Anyone else?

http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/2008/081112.htm

I just recently read the same thing about Shittake (I have no idea how to spell that) mushrooms so long as they have been dehydrated. Somehow, according to what I read, when they are dehydrated it changes something in them to an available form of vitamin D. I don't remember where I read it. I'll try to find it again and link it here.

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2009, 10:19:57 AM » by Mrs. Visionary

Quote from: Yooper on January 16, 2009, 07:54:52 AM

Just read about Dole portabella mushrooms having a good amount of Vitamin D through some "process". Anyone else?

http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/2008/081112.htm

I was suspicious when I saw this, so I went to the article in Agricultural and Food Chemistry. The Vitamin D that is being touted is D2 which is synthetic, poorly absorbed, and possibly toxic. Sad

What is desirable when supplementing with Vitamin D is D3. D3 is the form that is made in your skin when in the sun and it is the form found in animal foods such as Cod Liver Oil.

To take a look for yourself, click on the link below:
http://pubs.acs.org/toc/jafcau/56/12

and scroll down to the following article:

Vitamin D2 Formation from Post-Harvest UV-B Treatment of Mushrooms (Agaricus bisporus) and Retention During Storage
John S. Roberts*†, Arnaud Teichert‡ and Tara H.

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2009, 06:59:03 PM » by ShannaC

I just got some Vit. D-3 and would like to start taking it. But it says if you are pregnant (I am!) or nursing to talk to a Dr. I know almost all supplements have to say that but just checking to make sure there is no problem with taking it while pregnant. Anyone have any info. on that? Seems to me like it would be fine..... Thanks!

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2009, 07:30:24 PM » by Whiterock

They want you to be cautious because you can overdose on vit D. Your doctor might want to test your vit D levels before ok'ing a supplement.

check out the articles an vit D on the Weston A. Price Foundations website for more info on vit D toxicity and testing levels.

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