Bipolar Disorder: Causes & Treatments

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Bipolar Disorder: Causes & Treatments
« on: July 31, 2006, 01:10:35 PM » by TwinkleToes

Does anyone have a success story about overcoming bipolar disorder without conventional drugs? Someone very close to me has some serious personality problems and is getting to the point of wanting to try prescription medication to control the misery. I should add that this is not an official diagnosis. She believes, based on symptoms, that this is her problem. My personal belief is that there is a good mix of emotional and physical (hormonal) factors. Frankly, I think her parents, particularly her mother, made her crazy...but I won't go into all that on this forum. She is so up and down and the mood can change in a split second and all these moods can happen in the same day. Having said that, there are definitely periods of time, sometimes weeks, where she is more stable. During these times she is actually quite rational, more cheerful, and the world, her husband and kids don't get her down so much, etc.... She still recognizes during these times that she has some "hang-ups" but they don't completely control her life. Then it's like all of a sudden PMS or some other "dark force" descends and she gets sooo depressed and irritable. She tells me that inside she's full of rage and has to fight the urge to clobber her husband (who by the way is extremely nice and long-suffering). She feels like yelling at her kids all the time, although she actually excerises more self control with them than she does with her husband. She feels completely hopeless and depressed, like some fog is hanging over her brain. This will last a few weeks. It's not like typical PMS that comes and goes within 7-10 days. When the cloud lifts and she is rational again she wonders how it was possible for her to be so "crazy". I am one of a very small handful who actually know this about her. To everyone else she seems very sweet and normal all the time. She's a good actor, I have to say. Anyway, I realize this is not the place to discuss the spiritual, emotional aspects, but I am looking for any ideas to help her physically. I assume there has to be a very real physical component here because hormones seem to dictate just how "crazy" she feels sometimes. So I'm wondering if anyone has seen this type of problem conquered, or at least better controlled, with a particular product, supplements, herbs, whatever. She already knows about the eating right, exercise, etc...aspect of health (although she doesn't necessarily do all of that all the time). She's tried some different things, but probably nothing for very long, so there hasn't been any marked improvements. She did have 2 brief stints taking Paxil. She said the first time it really helped and the second time it only marginally helped. But she really wants to steer clear of drugs if possbile, but will go to drugs if that's what it takes to keep her sane and her family happy.

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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2006, 01:25:42 PM » by healthybratt

I would recommend she read "Created to Be His Help Meet" BEFORE she starts using any medications. Just my opinion. Roll Eyes

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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2006, 01:28:07 PM » by mrsnoah

Are you discussing me? Grin

just kidding, I would however like to know if there is anything to help. I sometimes feel like that ,maybe not that extreem, but sorta, I just thought I was overwhelmed. I also have a longsuffering dh who trakes alot of unnecessay stuff from me. I feel like I can't control it and it comes out of nowhere. I have read created two times and will read it again and again ,but this is something different.
-mary

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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2006, 01:41:15 PM » by MissusLeata

Has she ever had a complete hormone/chemical panel done? Is she at the age where it could be connected to menopause?

I'd definitely check physical things. That can make such a difference.

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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2006, 01:49:12 PM » by TwinkleToes

Posted by: healthybratt
I would recommend she read "Created to Be His Help Meet" BEFORE she starts using any medications. Just my opinion.

Yeah, good suggestion....um....she's read it. I loaned her my copy and she thought it was spot on. The thing is she really WANTS to be a whole person, but feels like she can't get a grip, like some force physical or otherwise is "making me crazy".

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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2006, 01:59:51 PM » by o2bhealthy

I agree with checking into hormone and/or chemical issues. I also wanted to mention that because of some bizaar health issues I have had that have also followed a cycle I began checking into mercury poisoning and such. I am amazed at what is coming out in regards to how mercury, uranium (I learned I got exposed from others), etc. can affect ones mood . Symptoms like you are describing; brain fogs, left feeling like a crazy person etc. I went to a naturopath only because I am not sure I could survive medical attention. Treatment is limited to drugs pretty much which is fine if that is what you plan on doing.

I am reading Created to be his Helpmeet for a second time too, Wink

. I have also had the Lord set me free from alot of emotional issues about 3 years ago. I too have thought there is something else going on. I go to the Lord who always knows exactly what is the problem and see what He brings and then have it confirmed through my husband. I am always amazed at what I think is not going to go over well and then my husband says yes. It has taught me to depend on the Lord more and not worry about myself having to find all the answers. It is a job and work to figure out ones health problems at times but it appears the process is more important than the problem with God.

I wish I could say I knew someone, but I don't, but I will be praying for your friend. What about trace minerals, like a deficiency or something?

He always knows, Heidi

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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2006, 02:05:10 PM » by healthybratt

Quote from: TwinkleToes on July 31, 2006, 01:49:12 PM

Then I would suggest you and she look into the effects of candida and leaky gut. These are pretty extreme and they can cause some pretty extreme imbalances.

Leaky Gut Syndrome - The Cause of it All?

Even if LGS is not the root cause, following the diet recommended for healing will make many an unhealthy person well again. It follows much of the logic of The Makers Diet and if I'm not mistaken Nourishing Traditions.

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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2006, 02:15:07 PM » by his.silly.wife

I've gone through phases where things are fine, and them everything is upside down. But that was only a few days a month. Before I had babies, I never noticed PMS, but after babies, that was a whole different story! My poor hubby! I started taking a herbal supplement for women that was able to level out my hormones. I know, Walmart isn't likely the greatest place to buy supplements, but it helped me. Look for something that has Wild Yam.

I've also read recently that 'good' cholesterol is needed to maintain serotonin levels, the feel-good chemical. A friend of mine is on antidepressants, because her body isn't releasing the correct amount of serotonin. I'm not sure what the difference is between good and bad cholesterol. I guess I had better add that to my "things I want to study" list.

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Re: Bipolar Disorder: Causes & Treatments
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2006, 02:43:52 PM » by healthybratt

Quote from: ps100vs5 on July 31, 2006, 02:15:07 PM

I'm not sure what the difference is between good and bad cholesterol. I guess I had better add that to my "things I want to study" list.

This would mean an imbalance of omega 3 and 6 fats. Most diets are high in omega 6 fats which contribute to an overabundance of a certain kind of antibody which leads to autoimmune problems. Getting plenty of omega 3 fats to balance this out develops another kind of antibody which controls the "inflammatory" antibody which causes these problems. This is all included in the information on healing leaky gut. Good health centers on fighting candida (low sugar), ample amounts of healthy protein (amino acids), healthy fats (olive oil, cod liver oil, fish oil, sesame oil, butter, cream, etc) and probiotics (kefir, sauerkraut, kombucha, yogurt, kimchee, etc). Without these components in every diet things will become unbalanced and cause many disorders including those considered "mental" disorders.

Seratonin can actually be balanced by diet as well. Eating foods high in triptophan can help balance seratonin levels in the body.

What is tryptophan?

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Tryptophan is an essential Amino Acid. Tryptophan is a component of many plant and animal proteins, and a normal part of the diet that humans must get from outside sources. It is a precursor (starting material) for serotonin from which our brains make serotonin, which is then used to calm you down and make you sleepy. Tryptophan also helps in niacin (B vitamins) production.

Foods that are considered sources of tryptophan are dairy products, beef, poultry, barley, brown rice, fish, soybeans, and peanuts.

L-tryptophan, in substantial quantities, is a natural sedative. It is normally found in turkey meat, and many people believe it to be the cause of a sleepiness common after a Thanksgiving feast.

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Re: Bipolar Disorder: Causes & Treatments
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2006, 04:04:12 PM » by visionarymom

My naturopath strongly believes bipolar/any brain disorders not caused by injury, is related to toxins released by parasites. I asked her about bipolar disorder because a relative of mine is getting medication for this for the rest of her life! Essentially, she suggested cleansing top to bottom, including fasting. My relative wanted no part in this, so I can't say this from personal experience that this works. Just what the doc told me.

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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2006, 04:09:06 PM » by healthybratt

Quote from: visionarymom on July 31, 2006, 04:04:12 PM

Sounds reasonable to me. Shocked

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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2006, 04:15:03 PM » by Pennie

Me too. I have a realative diagnosed with that too and she has spent many many years using everything from alcohol to well, very bad stuff.

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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2006, 08:28:17 PM » by healthyinOhio

Quote from: TwinkleToes on July 31, 2006, 01:10:35 PM

She feels like yelling at her kids all the time, although she actually exercises more self control with them than she does with her husband.

There you go. There is the answer. " She actually exercises more self control...." That is NOT true Bipolar disorder. True Bi-Polar cannot exercise self control. You want to see true Bi-Polar disorder. Go to Bellevue Hospital, New York. That is the true disorder. Crazy people from either 1. Demonic influence 2. Serious health problems.(Allergies, heavy metal poisoning, parasites, etc)

The ONLY way true Bi-polar can be tested and seen is from a cat scan of the brain. You will actually see the two hemispheres at different colors on the cat scan chart. Now, how many "psychologists" do you know make their patients get one of these? I have never met one in my life. Because the pharmaceutical company wants everyone to buy drugs and use them.

There has been an increase in everyone being diagnosed with this and I am not saying that the mood swings or anger or depression don't exist. What I am saying is that those symptoms mentioned are not Bi-polar but results from allergies, heavy metal toxicity, obesity, parasites.

I had a horrible childhood. I had the worst diet imaginable from a three time divorced mother who was always too tired to make anything else healthy. Who was so obese herself that she taught us intemperance like an art. She always took us to counseling and then when we got older took us to psychologists and then psychiatrists. She was on prozac for most of her adult life for her so called "depression", then lithium, now it is some crazy body altering, mind altering drug. She had us take these things and my life got worse. I actually got more depressed and wanted to committ suicide on these drugs. Then, she wanted me to see a psychiatrist because I was so out of control(in reality, she was the one out of control) . I was in college at the time and also was active in theater. I thought I would give my doctor a little run of a show. I studied schizophrenia and I acted like one in my time with my phyche doctor. In three weeks, the doctor called my parents in to tell them that I had symptoms of schizophrenia and that I should be taking these serotonin releasing drugs. My mother was so happy. She said, "I knew it!" "I knew something was wrong with you!" I told them that I had made everything up and nobody, to this day, believes me.
One year later, I gave my heart to Christ and wouldn't you know that the depression and mood swings almost entirely went away. Most of the symptoms of Bi-polar were gone. Some did come back after I had my second child, and I knew that there must be more to it than just spirituality. Even though that is most of it. I did research on all of what I know now and I do not suffer from the occasion PMS moments that most women have.
My mother still tries to tell me that I have this. I don't. My husband has told her that I don't.
She and my sister see a psychiatrist a couple times a month and are still on medication. Medication that does NOT take away the sickness itself. It just "drugs" you. Now, she has so many other medical complications from taking these drugs that her body is falling apart and she is miserable. She and my sister eat horribly. My mom is obese and a diabetic. My sister smokes and does drugs to hide the pain. My sister is also allergic to wheat, corn and dairy, but my mother has never even told her this. She was diagnosed as a young child.

Did you know that allergies can mimic Bi-Polar disorder?(And by Bi-Polar I do not mean the REAL sickness, but the one that doctors label everyone who has mood swing problems/ high's and lows).

I know this is long winded, but I have gone through this stuff most of my life. Was it in vain? No! It has helped many people I have told about and I hope this will help someone here. Research all of this before you decide to take a drug. Good luck and I hope, TwinkleToes, that your friend finds real help and real nutrition to take away these symptoms. But don't be surprised if she doesn't.

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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2006, 08:52:43 PM » by TwinkleToes

Healthyinohio, thanks for sharing all of that. Very interesting. I never realized that an MRI could definitively diagnose bipolar. That is good to know and based on that, it sounds like her problem is something else. Anyway, thanks.

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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2006, 08:59:42 PM » by Bev

Hi! I was reading everyones replies and I wondered if a food Journal might be a good idea for your friend to try. I notices I have reactions to different things. Like coffee makes me moody. Sugar depresses me and makes me verryyyyyyyyyyyyy tired. I havent kept a food journal myself but I have thought of doing so.

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« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2006, 09:00:28 PM » by healthybratt

Quote from: TwinkleToes on July 31, 2006, 08:52:43 PM

I don't believe it can. According to the literature I've read, all psychiatric disorders are voted in and out of existance by a show of hands on a psychiatric board. If you want more little interesting facts like this one, read this "Pseudoscience: Psychiatry's False Diagnoses"

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« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2006, 09:03:41 PM » by KatieMac

Your friend sounds alot like me. I had an experience the other night that really, really got me thinking. I had drunk a Cherry Ski at lunch time (local soft drink) and later I got a letter from my friend. It was no big deal, but for some reason it completely threw me into a horrible depression. I couldn't sleep, I felt like there was something really heavy sitting on my chest and I felt like dying. Now, I think there might have been some reason to be a little upset about this letter but not enough to cause such a huge emotional breakdown. About 4am my mind was racing and I remembered the Cherry Ski which has large amounts of caffeine and red dye #40. I remembered the part in "Unraveling The Mystery Of Autism" where they talk about testing a young woman who was happy, chirpy etc until they injected her with Red dye #40 and then she curled up in the fetal position and said she wanted to die. I am not sure that is what caused my problem but I know I suffer from crippling anxiety and I beleive more and more that it's part spiritual, part attitude and part my health. I will pray your friend can put all the pieces together.

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« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2006, 09:34:02 PM » by MissusLeata

Quote from: Bev on July 31, 2006, 08:59:42 PM

A food journal is a good idea. I've noticed that honey makes me really weird. I get cranky, am quarrelsome, cry easily, etc. when I eat honey. Not sure why...maybe I'm allergic to it or something.

And low blood sugar can do things like that too.

I think that sometimes we assume that something is a spiritual or emotional problem when maybe it really does have a physical root.

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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2006, 09:41:26 PM » by TwinkleToes

Thanks all for the great input here.... this is very helpful. HB....thanks for the link....I'm going to go investigate. Grin

I also agree with KatieMac....it's hard to break it down to what's spiritual, emotional, physical. Food Journal is a great idea....I can relate to some of that myself. I know if it's too long before I eat breakfast in the morning my blood sugar starts dropping and all of a sudden I start feeling irritable. With the food journal do you just log everything you eat and monitor moods? Thanks.

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« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2006, 01:21:56 AM » by Gabriel Anast

I don't have much to add here, but I would like to throw in one of my favorite resources for figuring out the spiritual / emotional / physical question: icbcinc.com... there is almost nothing on the website, but there is a resource list (books, videos, cds and tapes) that you can order from.

For the original poster, you might also consider Dissociative Identity Disorder. It is not an uncommon diagnosis, but I would not recommend doing a web search... the general information / understanding is not (in my opinion) complete. This tape set is a good intro: Understanding Dissociative Identity Disorder - Dan Rumberger (2 audio tapes) $6. I would also recommend getting the book: Reclaiming Surrendered Ground - Jim Logan (1 book) $11, and Getting Free and Staying Free (4 videos) $32. These are all from ICBC.

ICBC does a lot of counseling. It is free as they are a mission of sorts, and it takes a while to get in. They are usually booked about three months in advance. They usually recommend that you come for a week, but like to talk to you on the phone first...

I really love this organization, and spent some time working with them and reading through a lot of their materials.

I highly recommend them.

--gabe

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« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2006, 08:22:23 AM » by healthyinOhio

Quote from: healthybratt on July 31, 2006, 09:00:28 PM

I don't believe it can. According to the literature I've read, all psychiatric disorders are voted in and out of existence by a show of hands on a psychiatric board. If you want more little interesting facts like this one, read this "Pseudoscience: Psychiatry's False Diagnoses"

Very interesting article, HB! It wouldn't surprise me one bit. Although, the point I was making is actual science and not psychiatric garbage. Look at a library book or on the interenet for bran scans of those with chemical imbalances. It will show you what a "normal" persons two hemispheres of the brain should look like with normal amounts of brain chemicals and then shows you the one who has a chemical imbalance i.e. bi-polar disorder. There is a huge noticable difference in the two brains put side by side. What I was trying to convey, in case I was not clear enough, is that most people that are diagnosed with this do NOT have Bi-polar. They may have a slight chemical imbalance due to substances they are eating or drinking that is altering their mood swings, but not the true disease. The true disease from a medical standpoint, looks much different under a cat scan.

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« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2006, 09:26:01 AM » by dara

I just lost my whole post, and I don't have time to rewrite it all. (Window AC blew the breaker Tongue

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Bentonite Clay (powder) can help remove heavy metals (like mercury) from the system. 1/4 t. 2-3x/day average recomendation (being just a clay, you could take it forever if you wanted, though a couple-few weeks would be good).

Research mineral deficiency, candida like HB said, adrenal fatigue, herbs for depression, and brain food- DHEA, Essential Fatty Acids, Amino Acids... there are practitioners out there that treat nutritionally first. I have a magazine article from Alternative Medicine I might be able to scan and e-mail. I don't have time to type it all. Anyway, keep looking. I can't help but think the high numbers of mental issues in the country are linked, in part at least, to poor nutrition (MO).

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« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2006, 09:30:12 AM » by healthyinOhio

Quote from: dara on August 01, 2006, 09:26:01 AM

I can't help but think the high numbers of mental issues in the country are linked, in part at least, to poor nutrition (MO).

I agree.

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« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2006, 09:34:26 AM » by Pennie

Quote from: dara on August 01, 2006, 09:26:01 AM

I just lost my whole post, and I don't have time to rewrite it all. (Window AC blew the breaker Tongue

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Oh, I HATE when that happens. Only with me I ususally hit the wrong button. Sad

Anyway. I bought some cilantro the other day thinking I was buying parsley Tongue

so I read on mercola what it was good for and it said on there that is was good for removing mercury. I only did a little, only takes a little with that but I thought I shouldn't do it too much since I am breastfeeding (oh, by did I mean juiced Cheesy

)so I thought someone might be interested. I may have already said that somewhere but, I am not responsible for REMEMBERING what I say....... Roll Eyes

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« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2006, 10:40:44 AM » by healthybratt

Quote from: healthyinOhio on August 01, 2006, 08:22:23 AM

The true disease from a medical standpoint, looks much different under a cat scan.

BiPolar is not a medical diagnosis. It's defined in the DSM 4 (the psychiatric bible) as a mood disorder.

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« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2006, 01:46:55 PM » by sunshine4th

Having had some experience working with the "emotionally challenged" teenagers, I too agree that if your friend can "put on a good act", then the chance of her really being bipolar is slim to none. My degree is in psychology and I have to say that most of what I learned was useless because they try to brain wash you and tell you that people that are mentally ill cannot control themselves, which just isn't true. For instance, I was working in the crisis unit of a residential facility for abused and neglected kids and teens, and I have seen these kids show much self control, when it works for them. A teenage girl in particular stands out in my mind. This young lady is 16 and has a two year old son. She and I got a long well because I am pregnant and she liked to talk about the baby. One day, she was acting out and banging her head on the office window and cursing at staff. (I know, I had a really fun job!) Well, I happen to be putting a mop bucket away and didn't realize she was "having a rough moment", so I ignored what she was doing and continued to struggle with this mop bucket. She saw me out of the corner of her eye, stopped what she was doing, helped me with the bucket, I said "Thank You" and she said "any time", and then went back to banging her head on the window and cursing at other staff. This young lady, is diagnosed with bipolar was well....you tell me if she really has a mental disorder? To me, her problem is self control and a bitter spirit. These kids have had a raw deal, don't get me wrong but half of them would be much better off with discipline, not meds.
With that being said, I do believe that with the correct amount of discipline, love, diet, exercise and of course prayer, 95% of the kids I worked with wouldn't need any medication. I do believe that imbalances and deficiencies can get so bad, that medicine might need to be taken until you can get your system back into gear and begin taking proper care of your body.
That is just my personal opinion from what I have observed and learned at work and at college.
And just a side note on the DSM 4, in my opinion is based on people's opinions. For example in the original DSM 1, homosexuality was considered a mental disorder. The definition has evolved where it is not a mental disorder and is considered a "normal" part of society. If I am not mistaken, PMS is also in the DSM 4, and as we know, this can be controlled with diet and exercise.
Whoa, that was longer than I thought. I hope it makes sense.

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« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2006, 01:55:12 PM » by healthyinOhio

Quote from: sunshine4th on August 01, 2006, 01:46:55 PM

. If I am not mistaken, PMS is also in the DSM 4, and as we know, this can be controlled with diet and exercise.

My husband will agree with that. He says that PMS is a mental disorder and that all women are psycho's. Grin

Why, yes, his username is healthinohiosboss. You can direct your hate mail to him there! Wink

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« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2006, 02:37:30 PM » by joyful_mommy_03

Please please PLEASE read or have her read "Potatoes not Prozac" by Kathleen DesMaisons!! She is a PhD in addictive nutrition and the book is about people who have a sugar sensitivity. The book describes your friend so well (and me too). There are soooo many sugar sensitive people out there and they don't even know it!! I wish I could give this book to everyone who talks about the mood swings and "I just HAVE to have my chocolate".

She talks about blood sugar and brain chemicals, specifically serotonin and beta-endorphin and how they react to eating sugar - not in everyone, just those who are sugar sensitive. I won't go into the whole explanation here because she does such a great job in the book. I'll just say that she used this treatment on alcoholics and, while many programs only show success with 25% of the people they treat, she showed a success rate of almost 92%. Pretty impressive.

The book is very easy to read and the plan she gives is very easy to follow. I just found this book last week by looking at the TheMasterCleanse.com website because I was planning on going on the cleanse after I wean my 4mo old (it'll be a while

) Anyway, it has really opened my eyes to some of the feelings and behaviors in my life!

Here's the description from the back of the book:

Can't say no to fattening foods, alcohol, or compulsive behaviors? You're not lazy, self-indulgent, or undisciplined; you may be one of the millions of people who are sugar sensitive. Many people who suffer from sugar sensitivity don't even know it; they continue to consume large quantities of sweets, breads, pasta or alcohol.

These foods can trigger feelings of exhaustion and low self-esteem, yet their biochemical impact makes sugar sensitive people crave them even more. This vicious cycle can continue for years, leaving sufferers overweight, fatigued, depressed and sometimes alcoholic.

Now there is a solution: in Potatoes Not Prozac, Dr. Kathleen DesMaisons gives you the tools you need to overcome sugar dependency, with self-tests to determine your sugar sensitivity as well as an easy-to-follow, drug-free program with a customized diet high in protein and complex carbohydrates.

Join the thousands of people who have successfully healed their addiction to sugar, lost weight and attained maximum health and well-being by using Dr. DesMaison's innovative plan.

I hope this helps!!

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« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2006, 04:41:40 PM » by ForeverGirl

I have to agree that diet, training, and emotional care resolve many so-called problems.

However, I have to second what Gabe recommended because I have seen, and know people that are diagnosed with Bipolar that are actually suffering Dissacociation Identity Disorder.

When a child experiences extreme trauma (often sexual abuse) under the age of 5 - but sometimes older - the part of their brain that recorded the events will cease communicating with the other part of the brain, and withold the "bad" information, so that the child can continue to develop normally and not be mentally destroyed by what happened to him/her.

This is called DID, and in severe cases, the person's two "sides" may not know each other. Many people suffer from multiple splits, manifesting as multiple personalities. Usually, when a person with DID grows up, at some point the brain will try to heal itself of this very physical "condition" and memories will start getting through to the other side, fears will emerge, and confusion.

Studies show that over half of child sexual abuse victims (recorded) will have no memory at all of what happened to them as children, but may have odd fears or aversions. Things like a perfume, a time of day, a physical position, a TV in the background, may trigger a "switch" and the DID will become apparent.

I had a roomate in college with this. She was Chelly, and Michelle. They did not know each other. Michelle had been abused by a youth pastor and was a quiet, studious, modest person that loved the Lord. Chelly was a loud, flirtatious, immodest socialite that wore too much Red Door perfume. Through prayer, studying the book of Ephesians, and my ignorant counsel on forgiveness, salvation, etc... Chelly met Michelle, reconciled herself to those memories, forgave her mother for not protecting her, the man who molested her, and became one whole person who went by both names, and was neither depressed nor flirtatious and outgoing. She became a "normal" person full of hope, some sad memories, and lots of joy over God's healing.

This is not my only experience with DID, some are much more personal and closer to home. I would suggest though, that anybody who does not find relief in diet changes and personal discipline, to consider the materials Gabe suggested which are available at ICBCinc.com.

The most common comment from a DID person is "I just feel like I'm going crazy." You're not crazy. The world is a messed-up, ugly place full of meanness and hurt. But Jesus heals completely. Talk about scar reduction - take it to Him.

For more on this subject, please go to 7xsunday.net, and check the "healing" for similiar topics on abuse.

Rebekah

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Re: Bipolar Disorder: Causes & Treatments
« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2006, 05:37:12 PM » by healthybratt

Quote from: healthyinOhio on August 01, 2006, 01:55:12 PM

My husband will agree with that. He says that PMS is a mental disorder and that all women are psycho's. Grin

Why, yes, his username is healthinohiosboss. You can direct your hate mail to him there! Wink

I'm not so sure I don't agree. Wink

We are, by nature a very strange and complicated breed. I don't understand myself most days. Roll Eyes

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