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  Re: WellTellMe Store: Notices, Questions & Technical Difficulties
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2008, 06:09:58 PM » by Nickole
Nickole's husband here:

The I Cor. passage quoted above is speaking in the context of ministry as in the case of missionaries getting support for their work they do for the Lord.  Therefore, that passage does not apply here.  Just FYI.
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« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2008, 06:14:29 PM » by jenny4wen
Quote from: ~Nickole~ on February 27, 2008, 06:09:58 PM
Nickole's husband here:

The I Cor. passage quoted above is speaking in the context of ministry as in the case of missionaries getting support for their work they do for the Lord.  Therefore, that passage does not apply here.  Just FYI.

I don't mean to argue, but I find WTM a ministering forum. 
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« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2008, 06:53:29 PM » by SamsGirl
Quote from: ~Nickole~ on February 27, 2008, 06:09:58 PM
Nickole's husband here:

The I Cor. passage quoted above is speaking in the context of ministry as in the case of missionaries getting support for their work they do for the Lord.  Therefore, that passage does not apply here.  Just FYI.

ANOTHER....husband thanks you and agrees, IMO of course
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« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2008, 07:40:59 PM » by Gabriel Anast
Woah... OK... this is hilarious. No more Bible debate or whatever, please.

I am not looking for support, or a paycheck or whatever. If I was, WTM would be a not-for-profit, etc.

What I am looking for are 3 things:

1) To test the store. I need it to have a product in order to test it.
2) A lot of people have asked how they can support WTM, and help pay for the costs. This is a way that is fun and totally optional.
3) I'd like to accept the offer of those people who want to help fund the next step in developing the site. It is going to be expensive. But really awesome...

As a product, the banner / dedication is a banner that you can display in the WTM forum, or a dedication that you can make even if you are not a forum member, or possibly one way of joining the "idea" of WTM regardless of your status as a user. Its a class ring if you will.

Some might say this is a donation to a project... and in a way it is, but on paper it is a product purchase. It is the buyer purchasing something the buyer wants from the WTM store.

Now... the cool part is that these banners are not the point of the store... they are, as I said before, a proof of concept. The next step of development will be as follows:

1) The store will be tightly integrated with the forum... one login for both (this is not the case now).

2) Each member will have a "wallet" that is like a small account that can gain or spend credits in a number of ways.

3) Each member will have the ability to upload video, audio, documents (ebook's, doc's, pdf's, etc). The member will assign a "value" to the media. WTM will focus on teaching / research / learning topics that are germane to WTM.

4) Based on the value, and other metrics, the site will sell the media as streams or downloads.

5) The copyright owner (the WTM member that uploaded it, presumably) of the media will get part of the sale price, and WTM will get part (approx 50/50)

6) Money will accrue to the member's wallet depending on how many views / downloads that member's media has sold. This money can be withdrawn via PayPal, a check, or used to purchase other media... the idea being that members that create and upload valuable media will basically generate enough revenue to watch / hear / read all the other media that they want... and that those that don't create media will just pay for it.


For Instance: Kristen's podcasts. Once the store is fully developed, she can put all of her old podcasts up as digital media and sell them. Probably she will keep making her new one free (that is up to her) but she can monetize the podcast archive... maybe each podcast will be $0.50 for a download or $0.25 to stream it. For each "listen" to the old podcasts then, there will be a $0.125 or $0.25 profit. This might not sound like much, but I think that with an archive of podcasts like she has, it might work out to $50+ a month... every month, for a long time.

Now you have to admit, that is cool.

Finally, there is no pressure to purchase a banner.... You are even free to copy and use the banners elsewhere if you like. Like I said before, its just decoration. Adornment. And its kind of fun... and it helps me test the store... and it helps fund the ongoing development.

--gabe

« Last Edit: February 27, 2008, 08:30:09 PM by Gabriel Anast »
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  Re: WellTellMe Store: Notices, Questions & Technical Difficulties
« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2008, 07:42:12 PM » by Gabriel Anast
Oh, and I think the store is fully functional now...  Tongue

--gabe
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  Re: WellTellMe Store: Notices, Questions & Technical Difficulties
« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2008, 08:53:16 PM » by healthyinOhio
Okay, thanks, Gabe.  Your previous post makes more sense, now.  Wink
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« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2008, 09:40:39 PM » by SC

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Well, for OUR family, it was nice to have a way to give back something very tiny in comparison to all that WTM has done for us. If it helps sites like WTM stay online, WONDERFUL! If it's used to encourage others in their research that helps so many, GREAT! If it helps promote something that does wonderful things and asks nothing in return, sign me up!

The BEST reasons I can think of to NOT enjoy the store is if your dh isn't in agreement OR II Corinthians 9:6-8.  Grin
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  Re: WellTellMe Store: Notices, Questions & Technical Difficulties
« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2008, 09:52:13 PM » by Gabriel Anast
Quote from: healthyinOhio on February 27, 2008, 08:53:16 PM
Okay, thanks, Gabe.  Your previous post makes more sense, now.  Wink

I have a really great editor, she's cute too!

--gabe
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« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2008, 01:11:39 PM » by lotsaboys

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Question- is there a link or button or whatever for getting to the store other than in this thread? Like on the home page? Sorry if its obvious and I'm missing it. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #39 on: February 28, 2008, 02:47:24 PM » by healthybratt

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Quote from: lotsaboys on February 28, 2008, 01:11:39 PM
Question- is there a link or button or whatever for getting to the store other than in this thread? Like on the home page? Sorry if its obvious and I'm missing it. Roll Eyes

Quote from: SarahK on February 26, 2008, 10:51:45 AM
An idea? 

Is there a way you can make the banner a link to the WTM store where the member purchased their bling? 


He is currently working on this one.  It should be at the top in a day or two.  For now, I'll make this topic sticky and you can use this link.


http://store.welltellme.com/index.php
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  Re: WellTellMe Store: Notices, Questions & Technical Difficulties
« Reply #40 on: February 29, 2008, 02:57:21 PM » by NotLuckyButBlessed

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I have tried to log on numerous times. I can even get to where I enter my forum user name and update it. I can sometimes get to where I can view the initial banner. When I do get there, if I click on it, or click on the "buy now" tab so I can view the other choices, it always brings me back to the log in page as if i haven't logged in yet. I have tried several ways to get in but I can't get past that page...
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  Re: WellTellMe Store: Notices, Questions & Technical Difficulties
« Reply #41 on: February 29, 2008, 03:27:22 PM » by boysmama
Quote from: NotLuckyButBlessed on February 29, 2008, 02:57:21 PM
I have tried to log on numerous times. I can even get to where I enter my forum user name and update it. I can sometimes get to where I can view the initial banner. When I do get there, if I click on it, or click on the "buy now" tab so I can view the other choices, it always brings me back to the log in page as if i haven't logged in yet. I have tried several ways to get in but I can't get past that page...
Click on the link in post 15 in this thread to view all ornaments OR go to the store - click on the ornament instead of the buy now tab. You'll be able to see all your choices. HTH
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« Reply #42 on: February 29, 2008, 04:22:09 PM » by healthybratt

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Quote from: NotLuckyButBlessed on February 29, 2008, 02:57:21 PM
I have tried to log on numerous times. I can even get to where I enter my forum user name and update it. I can sometimes get to where I can view the initial banner. When I do get there, if I click on it, or click on the "buy now" tab so I can view the other choices, it always brings me back to the log in page as if i haven't logged in yet. I have tried several ways to get in but I can't get past that page...
Maybe try again.  Make sure your account name and password (for the store not WTM) are correct.

I just did it myself and it worked just fine.  Maybe Gabe was working on it again this morning or maybe you had your caps lock on or something?
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  Re: WellTellMe Store: Notices, Questions & Technical Difficulties
« Reply #43 on: February 29, 2008, 04:40:30 PM » by Gabriel Anast
I believe you have to "register" for a new account in the welltellme store. The store is not integrated with the forum. You can use your same username and password if you choose, but you can also use a totally different one. Once you log into the store with your "new" username and password, you should be able to proceed from there.

Once logged in to the store with your store username / password, you have to click "Update" on the right side, or go here:

https://store.welltellme.com/update_smf_info.php

On this page you enter your forum name and password, and then the store "knows" who you are on the forum...

The dedication is more like a note... like... "Thanks HB for keeping us all in line" or "You could have made this easier... Wink"

[edits by Gabe]

Rebekah

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  Re: WellTellMe Store: Notices, Questions & Technical Difficulties
« Reply #44 on: February 29, 2008, 04:53:41 PM » by healthybratt

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Quote from: Gabriel Anast on February 29, 2008, 04:40:30 PM
I believe you have to "register" for a new account in the welltellme store. The store is not integrated with the forum. You can use your same username and password if you choose, but you can also use a totally different one. Once you log into the store with your "new" username and password, you should be able to proceed from there.

If you "dedicate" your "purchase" to your WTM username I.D.: notluckybutblessed, then the banner/bling will show up under your username on this forum.

Correct me if I'm wrong about this, HB.

Rebekah
This is all true.  Cheesy  I had to create a new account in the store.  If you have not done this then that would explain why you can't log in.  The store, unlike the other forums is not integrated and will be the same as shopping online at any other store.  You have to start with a new account and go from there.  Cheesy

Oh, but you need not fill in the dedication line to get your ornament.  You need to fill in your WTM username and password once logged into the store.  The dedication line is what will display at the bottom of the home page in WTM.  Cheesy

Here's more details in this post.

http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,16048.msg156088.html#msg156088

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« Reply #45 on: February 29, 2008, 05:26:27 PM » by NotLuckyButBlessed

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Itried again and it still didn't work. Maybe I am just a dork? I don't usually have trouble figuring these things out...

I log on with the user name and password that I set up for the store specifically (I chose to use the same user name so I have less to try to remember!). Again, I can get to the store and see the first banner design with teh buy me under it. When I click on Buy Me, it just takes me back to the sign in page. I tried going in under View Cart, and that also takes me back to the sign in page.

Is there a Kombucha banner? Or sushi?    Wink
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« Reply #46 on: February 29, 2008, 05:46:58 PM » by NotLuckyButBlessed

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I tried yet again. Thinking it may have something to do with my browser, I went offline and logged back on. I signed in again at the store and the same thing is happening. Could it have something to do with the dreaded AOL?

Gosh Gabe, I don't want to complain but, well,

                        Where's the BLING???

Waahhhh, the first time I can afford to buy Bling and I can't get to it!!!!
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  Re: WellTellMe Store: Notices, Questions & Technical Difficulties
« Reply #47 on: February 29, 2008, 06:21:43 PM » by wyomama3
Quote from: NotLuckyButBlessed on February 29, 2008, 05:46:58 PM

                        Where's the BLING???

Waahhhh, the first time I can afford to buy Bling and I can't get to it!!!!
Mine didn't show up either, but I just decided I did something wrong and said oh, well!  Undecided  When I get to the chocolate...now that is when I want my bling to show up.  That way I can drool everytime I see that bling.  Cheesy

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« Reply #48 on: February 29, 2008, 07:49:00 PM » by Gabriel Anast
OK, I found the issue I think... it does indeed have to do with how AOL proxies connections... and I think I fixed it. So, if you don't mind, try it again and see if it works.

--gabe

So, try this: go to this page:

http://store.welltellme.com/login.php

...and login...

then click on "Forum Badges" in the right column
then click on the image of the banner...
then click "add to cart"
then "checkout"

Tell me what happens with that sequence (not that its a special sequence, but its one I can track...)

The dual login thing is a bigger problem than I thought...

--gabe

Quote from: NotLuckyButBlessed on February 29, 2008, 05:26:27 PM
I log on with the user name and password that I set up for the store specifically (I chose to use the same user name so I have less to try to remember!). Again, I can get to the store and see the first banner design with teh buy me under it. When I click on Buy Me, it just takes me back to the sign in page. I tried going in under View Cart, and that also takes me back to the sign in page.

Is there a Kombucha banner? Or sushi?    Wink

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« Reply #49 on: February 29, 2008, 11:46:59 PM » by NotLuckyButBlessed

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Please see "bling" to right  Cheesy

Gabe, you must have done something right cuz it worked. Thanks  Grin
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« Reply #50 on: March 01, 2008, 07:28:41 PM » by Gabriel Anast
Here is a how-to... after you have purchased a banner, you have to inform the store of who you really are...

--gabe

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« Reply #51 on: March 02, 2008, 08:51:40 PM » by Roehrmomma
So are the T shirts and bags coming soon??   Roll Eyes    I hope so. Grin

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« Reply #52 on: March 02, 2008, 08:57:22 PM » by Gabriel Anast
Yeah... a lot more is coming... the digital stuff is the most amazing, but there will be regular WTM swag as well...

--gabe
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« Reply #53 on: March 02, 2008, 08:59:25 PM » by KristenA

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why can't I just pay using a VISA?
It says I can only pay with my wallet...and I don't have any $ in my WTM wallet.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #54 on: March 02, 2008, 09:19:44 PM » by Gabriel Anast
Thanks... fixed that...  Tongue

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« Reply #55 on: March 02, 2008, 10:12:47 PM » by NotLuckyButBlessed

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I guess we're serving our purpose -- getting "bugs" worked out! Probably more than Gabe bargained for! whooo---eeeeee
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« Reply #56 on: March 02, 2008, 10:33:59 PM » by lewisquiverfull
Ok, trying to create an account, but it keeps saying to select a state from the pull down menu.  Uuuh, there is no pull down menu on the states, only country.
Am I just dumb or what??  Roll Eyes
So, I guess I'll try this again tomorrow.
Oh, and it keeps saying my password is poor, can I still use it???
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« Reply #57 on: March 03, 2008, 08:46:09 AM » by natural
Hi I am unable to log in in the buying area...I can log in fine here (obviously Smiley )
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« Reply #58 on: March 03, 2008, 08:52:50 AM » by Roehrmomma
Quote from: natural on March 03, 2008, 08:46:09 AM
Hi I am unable to log in in the buying area...I can log in fine here (obviously Smiley )

It says they are separate. You need to create a account there. I just did and it mirrors my wtm account so if they do merge I would guess they would merge my account to? I don't know.

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« Reply #59 on: March 03, 2008, 05:31:44 PM » by natural
Thanks I did it just the way you said and it worked!!
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