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Milk Allergies
« on: July 16, 2006, 01:50:19 PM » by shawnaincov

My 2yr old son is allergic to milk. He will breakout in a rash around his mouth and sometimes if he has alot he will get it on the back of his neck and he scratches that so I know it itches. I try to eat a small tub of yogurt everyday, I have noticed that if he has it he doesn't seem to breakout. Can anyone tell me why this could be happening? I want him (and all my family) to eat it especially since Beka's article in NGJ.
Also What do you use on cereal if you can't have milk? I just make him eat it dry. Sad

THanks
Shawna

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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2006, 04:37:33 PM » by healthyinOhio

Quote from: shawnaincov on July 16, 2006, 01:50:19 PM

My 2yr old son is allergic to milk.
Also What do you use on cereal if you can't have milk? I just make him eat it dry. Sad

THanks
Shawna

Is he allergic to just cows milk? There are a lot of problems with hormones and antibiotics in regular milk and also the pasteurization and homogenization make it very difficult for the body to break it down. Which in turn appears to be an allergic reaction. Some people who have reactions to cows milk do very well on goat's milk(I being one of them). You could try some local goats milk, raw is best, or try a powdered kind at a local health food store. If both don't work, you could use rice or a nut milk. They don't have the same nutritional value, if any at all, but can be a temporary substitute for milk. Let us know how it goes.

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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2006, 09:48:56 PM » by shawnaincov

Thanks so much. I had wondered if the goat's milk would work. I will have to try it.

Thanks Again
Shawna

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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2006, 09:55:25 PM » by Soñadora

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THanks
Shawna

I also have a son who is allergic to milk. We tried the goat's milk, but he couldn't have that either. Hopefully the goat will work for you, since it is so good for you. Just in case, though, I figured I'd mention rice milk, which is what my son uses if he has cereal.

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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2006, 02:26:02 PM » by jammy

Shawna,
My son developed a reaction like this right after his first birthday, which led us to believe it had to be a milk intolerance/allergy. Now he is 21 months, and still breaks out. It had gotten much better for awhile and I was cooking only from scratch. I am thinking either he is having a reaction to more than just milk now, or it is hiding in somethng I am unaware of, especially as our finances have shrunk considerably and are using more packaged food. Angry

Anyhow he gets it a lot on his back, arms and legs, sometimes a lil on his face, and the Dr. couldn't figure it out. I'm the one who said it had to be milk, since the only thing that changed was the fact we started giving it to him after his b-day. He, too scratches them now that he is older. How stressful, and the way people look at the poor kid! Undecided

Everyone thinks it's something contagious when he really has a bout.

This poor child also has bowel issues! Lots of runny, acidy....boo boo making stuff. I have yet to find anyone else going thru this until, now, so I apologize for the long post. Thanks for the info..I will see about finding goats milk and give it a try...? Not real sure if I can find that.

Hoping......
Jenn

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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2006, 08:35:19 PM » by shawnaincov

Jammy,

I really feel for you. My son doesn't have the bowel issues, but I do know someone that does. I don't know if this will help but We noticed that even if we gave him cheese flavord chips or sour cream and onion chips he would break out. Something that breaks him out worse than anything is Ranch dressing Huh

I am not sure why that is worse. The only thing that he has brokeout worse from is actual milk, and ice cream. He can only have sherbert. Embarrassed

I hope you find out the problem. I haen't got to try the goat milk yet but hopefully we will soon. I may have the oportunity to buy one Grin

I really do hope it works for my son because I want to make yogurt and cheese for him to have too. He LOVES cheese.

Shawna Kiss

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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2006, 09:07:38 PM » by RunAmokFarm

Hi Shawna,

This is what I know on the subject of milk allergies:

Cow milk allergies are far more common and potentially dangerous than most people realize. Generally developing during infancy, these allergies can continue into adulthood… Most people will never develop serious health issues, but research has shown that the 6% that have allergies do become highly sensitized and unable to maintain proper health or growth while on cow milk.

Symptoms of milk allergies can vary among individuals but the most common clues are: abdominal pain, asthma, bed-wetting, colic, constipation, croup, diarrhea, ear congestion – causing ear infections, eczema, headache - up to 70% of migraines are caused by food allergies, and 98% of those with allergies are allergic to cow milk-, hyperactivity, respiratory problems, sinusitis…

The cause for this protein intolerance is found with a protein called beta-lactum, found in cow milk but not in human milk. Children are particularly vulnerable to this intolerance… Because cow milk is not easily digested, many babies will regurgitate part of their feeding – If they are allergic to cow milk, it can pose a risk, as the undigested antigens in the milk come in contact with the air passage-ways, thus increasing the chances for swelling of the throat tissues.

About a real option to cow milk:

99% of people who are allergic to cow milk are not allergic to goat milk… It is amazing that our culture has downplayed this source of nutrition! Goat milk has several advantages over cow milk. The first is that it simply does not contain beta-lactum. It is also highly digestible, has a superior vitamin and mineral content, it is alkaline (where cow milk is acidic), it has therapeutic qualities, and even young infants can use it as a food source.

Goat milk is easily digested because the fat globules are much smaller… Actually 2.5 microns compared to 2.5 to 3.5 found in cow milk. In a way, you could say that goat milk is naturally homogenized, but not in a harmful way, like we process cow milk! In fact, goat milk is the closest in form and content, to human breast milk, of any in the animal kingdom. It is readily accepted by the body as a food source, even in small infants. It is digested in well under ½ the time it takes to digest cow milk, and does not cause the abdominal discomfort associated by many adults during the digestion process. This is very important, as we are not nourished simply by what we can swallow, but by what we can actually assimilate…

Nutritionally, goat milk is FAR superior to cow milk! It has higher levels of nearly every vitamin and mineral, with the couple exceptions of vitamins C and D, and the minerals, iron and copper… Calcium and phosphorus are in found in abundance, and even the ratio of phosphorus to calcium is very similar to that of breast milk. Vitamin A is found to be on average 50% higher than in cow milk… another important factor for feeding infants, vitamin A in cow milk is mainly in the form of carotenes ~ which is not easily converted by infants… whereas the vitamin A in goat milk has already been converted. B-complex vitamins range between 50% and 80% richer than that found in cow’s milk!

Research has found that goat milk can be used therapeutically to treat conditions such as asthma, colitis, digestive problems, eczema, hay fever, liver and gall-bladder disease to name a few.

Many people have a “bad” view of goats in general… They envision a smelly creature eating a tin can!

When goat milk has been produced using sanitary conditions, using the appropriate dairy feeding regime, and has been processed properly, it is almost indistinguishable from cow milk. In fact we had a wonderful Saanen dairy goat a few years ago. Not only did she produce over 2 gallons of milk per day, it was excellent! I will be honest here… we have tasted some really BAD goat milk Tongue

, and if any of you have had milk that has not been processed under the right conditions, I can understand the up-turned noses! I assure you, not all goat milk tastes that way… Our doe’s milk tasted similar to a lightly flavored vanilla ice-cream. Cheesy

Some years back, the California Goat Dairymen’s Association did a survey at the Pomona Fair. They asked hundred of people if they could tell the difference between their brand of cow milk versus a sample of fresh goat milk. Nine out of ten people could not tell which was which!

I know that some places, it is hard to find good goat milk. If you can find a local goat dairy and get the fresh milk, that is best. You can then decide if you want to pasteurize or not. With goats we know are clean and not carrying diseases, and with proper handling of milk, we would choose to drink raw milk… If I were buying from an unknown or questionable source, we would pasteurize.

Store bought goat milk is usually pasteurized… If goat milk sets too long on the store shelf, it can have a strong “goaty” flavor, which is one reason many people do not think they “like” goat milk… give it a try. If you get some that doesn’t taste good, try again! It is worth it to find the good stuff!

For those of you with little children, you can easily switch them over to goat milk, by simply adding a little Ovaltine or Chocolate milk for a few days… Given a choice between cow milk and goat milk, our children will scream “GOAT MILK” every time!!!

Hope this helps!

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Re: Milk Allergies
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2006, 06:55:16 AM » by khix

Quote from: shawnaincov on July 16, 2006, 01:50:19 PM

My 2yr old son is allergic to milk......
Also What do you use on cereal if you can't have milk?

My 3 year old is alllergic to cow's milk as well. Gets an itchy rash, too. Anyway, I give her rice milk. Very pleasant tasting, a light texture, I drink it too, I love it! (won't ever go back to cow's milk, except for cooking/baking needs). The brand name is Rice Dream. We usually get the Vanilla flavored one, and I always make sure I get the Enriched one (it's 'enriched' with more vitamins & with calcium).

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Re: Milk Allergies
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2006, 11:54:28 AM » by abbilynn

If the baby is allergic to milk, he's probably going to have a reaction to gluten (wheat) also. Read the thread on gluten/casein. That's where all these great people told me that! There's a milk substitute called Darifree. It's potato based powder and I've heard it's really good. (darifree.com) Also, Rice Dream has gluten in it. The gluten and the casien (milk) are such similiar proteins, that's why if he's allergic to one he may react to the other also. Dara knows alot about this topic.

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Re: Milk Allergies
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2006, 04:16:10 PM » by shawnaincov

I know that some places, it is hard to find good goat milk. If you can find a local goat dairy and get the fresh milk, that is best. You can then decide if you want to pasteurize or not. With goats we know are clean and not carrying diseases, and with proper handling of milk, we would choose to drink raw milk… If I were buying from an unknown or questionable source, we would pasteurize.

Store bought goat milk is usually pasteurized… If goat milk sets too long on the store shelf, it can have a strong “goaty” flavor, which is one reason many people do not think they “like” goat milk… give it a try. If you get some that doesn’t taste good, try again! It is worth it to find the good stuff!

For those with allergies, this may be the answer!
Blessings,
Jacque

Jacque,

THanks for all the info. If we end up getting a goat I want to know what it needs to eat for it to have that "good milk". What do I need to do to make sure the goat is clean and sanitary. I am ompletely new at this and don't know much.. I want to do this but I don't want to make it worse on my family because I don't know what in the world I am doing.

THanks for any suggestions
Shawna Kiss

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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2006, 05:32:20 PM » by RunAmokFarm

Hi Shawna,

I know: goats, dogs and rabbits... and few health things too... other than that, I begin to fall apart quickly - LOL!

Goats are AWESOME and great fun to have, provided you start out right.

HOUSING: First, you want to be sure you have adequate housing. A very small barn or shed with decent ventilation will work fine, depending upon your climate. *You will want enough room for a feeder, standing/laying room for your goats, as well as a separate little section for milking. A little 8X10 can work fine, if you are organized.

FENCING: You will want good fencing, because goats have an amazing knack for getting out if you don't. They are also very hard on cheap fencing (climb all over it and break it down), so best to get decent stuff to start out with. We use "cattle panels", which are very strong, welded sections of wire fencing - strong enough for me to climb over without bending!! They are fairly expensive, but worth every penny as they last pretty much "forever" and can be moved around your property repeatedly, year after year! A 42" X 16' section costs us around $16 here, but prices will vary some depending upon region.

You will also need metal posts for anchoring the fencing - we used 6.5' tall posts to anchor our fences, so, after being driven into the ground, our posts actually stand lower than the fence panels. (We are cheap and didn't care). Depending upon the ground, you may want 7 foot posts so they stick up higher than your fence. *If you buy the cheaper, rolled "field fencing", you will likely want to have a hot box (electric box) with a couple strands of hot wire to keep the goats off the fence.

Now that you know about housing you can think about the goats! You will want to have two, as goats are herd animals and don't do well alone. (They get depressed). You don't have to have two milk goats - you can have a milk doe and a castrated male called a "wether", however, my theory is that if you are feeding two goats, they should both be "productive" and be giving something back to your family, thus two milk does is a better choice in my opinion.

MILK GOAT BREEDS: Whew! There are a lot of different, beautiful goat breeds, and most all produce drinkable milk... however, the questions of "how much milk?" and "how good is it?" really come into play when we are serious about owning milk goats!! You can feed a 100# goat that is a thrifty-eater and produces 2 gallons of luscious, sweet, healthy milk per day... or you can feed a 100# goat that eats like a horse and produces only 10 ounces of crummy, odd-tasting milk! HMMM... Reseach is important when it comes to goats and goat breeds! Grin

What you find "attractive" in a goat may not be what we find attractive, so I would recommend searching through the ADGA site (American Dairy Goat Association) www.adga.org for information about the different breeds. They also have member websites, so you can search to find breeders in your local area.

My two very favorite milking breeds are Saanens and Alpines! Both are very graceful, with long necks and pretty "dairy" figures. They have large, expressive eyes and (most of the time) family-oriented temperaments. They also are known for "putting milk in the pail" - which is, of course, the most important trait for a family milk goat!

Saanens, in my opinion, are the dairy COW of the goat world! Grin

They can be quite large for a goat, with some well over a 100#, and shows it in their production as well! Many Saanen lines can produce up to & over 2 gallons per day at the peak of their second freshening! (2nd year milking). That is a HUGE amount of milk when you calculate the amount of feed to produce it. As a breed, they are very "thrifty" and tend to produce more milk on less feed than many breeds. Colors: Most Saanens are solid white, though there are rare "sable" Saanens out there as well.

Alpines are generally a bit smaller than Saanens, though are also well-known for their milk production, and come in very beautiful colors. I love Alpines as well!!

My Aunt's website has a great deal of information -- she has written a long article titled "Goat Lore" that you will find fascinating as well as very helpful! www.geocities.com/rangemastersgermanshepherds/Goat_Lore_pg1.html

Hope this helps get you started!

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Re: Milk Allergies
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2006, 11:21:12 AM » by shawnaincov

Thank you soooo much. I just thought I would tell everyone that I found goat milk at Walmart. I got some. It was kinda pricey but I thought "I really would like to know if my son can have this before investing in a goat." He drank some, about a cup full, with absolutely NO reaction!!! Grin

I am sooo excited. Thank you everyone for all the help. After he finished the milk that I gave him he said "Mo mook Mommy!" Yippee!!!

Shawna Kiss

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« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2006, 01:44:05 PM » by RunAmokFarm

Shawna,

That is wonderful!! Yes, it IS a bit pricey when purchased like that, but well worth it if he can drink it and reap the benefits! Remember that the store-bought milk probably won't taste as good as "fresh" - but if he likes it you know he will like fresh!

I would try it out a few times over the next couple weeks, just to be sure he doesn't develop a reaction later on... but sounds very promising!!! Grin

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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2006, 10:52:29 AM » by Mommaofmany

Hello! I have read the many threads on this, but my question was not answered. My 15 month old son seems to be allergic to cow's milk. He gets diarreaha when he drinks it (which he doesn't anymore...), if a meal has a high milk content, like a gravy in a cassorole, can't have out yogurt smoothies, but does fine on Green To Go's/fruit/juice only smoothies. He doesn't seem to have any skin reactions. He will , on occasion, have some unexplained UUrping up, if you know what I mean, sometimes it seems related to a high dairy meal.

He is our eighth child, and no one else has this sensitivity.

Could he have kefir? I wouldn't use soy milk, but have purchased rice milk. Should I bother? He didn't care for the rice milk anyway...Should I try goat's milk? Can you cook with goat's milk just like cow's milk (for the rest of the family?) Please enlighten me!!!

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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2006, 12:34:07 PM » by dara

Our kids (all 3) are allergic to cow milk as well, but do well on goat milk (besides getting constipated on it if they have several bottles a day (as babies)). I use it in everything I would use cow milk, with the exception of not being able to skim it, so no whipped cream or butter. I don't drink it straight very often, but my kids do, and we're very happy with it.

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« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2006, 01:06:31 PM » by his.silly.wife

Quote from: shawnaincov on July 16, 2006, 01:50:19 PM

Also What do you use on cereal if you can't have milk? I just make him eat it dry. Sad

Why not feed him something else? Not everybody needs to eat cereal. Or let him eat it dry. Dry Cheerios makes a great, fairly neat snack.

Is your son allergic to raw milk or pasteurized milk? My sons would develop extra mucus from pasteurized milk, but they can drink raw milk without any problems.

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Pasteurization destroys enzymes, diminishes vitamin content, denatures fragile milk proteins, alters vitamin B12, and vitamin B6, kills beneficial bacteria, promotes pathogens and is associated with allergies, increased tooth decay, colic in infants, growth problems in children, osteoporosis, arthritis, heart disease and cancer.
http://www.becomehealthynow.com/article/traditional/17

It is my understanding that the broken down milk particles can pass through the stomach lining, and cause irritation. I can't find the article at the moment that mentions it. I have friends that were raised on raw milk, and when they began drinking pasteurized milk. They suddenly found out they were allergic to it. Sounds strange to me...

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Re: Milk Allergies
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2006, 01:30:41 PM » by RunAmokFarm

Hi Dara,
I use it in everything I would use cow milk, with the exception of not being able to skim it, so no whipped cream or butter.

As I am sure you already know, some goat breeds have a considerably higher butterfat content in their milk, so, obviously, getting cream for butter is easier when there is more in the milk... however, my brilliant Auntie gave me a great idea for "skim" goat milk.

Buy one of those "sun tea" jars, you know, the ones with the little spigot on the bottom?! Pour your goat milk into the jar and let it sit in the fridge for a day or two. The cream will rise to the top... and you can drain off the "skim" milk on the bottom! Then you can use the cream left in the jar for butter or whatever... Grin

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« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2006, 06:56:05 PM » by 1N1is6

I hope this is the right place to post this question.

My Mr. Command Man has said NO to goat's milk. And the cow milk from the store will kill us, the soy milk is too bad for words Shocked

, so where does that leave us?
What I mean is, other than buying a cow (we can't afford), our state (VA) does not allow the sale of raw milk. We are also not aloud to buy part of a milk cow any more. We don't use much milk anyway, but it is nice for certain things. So, I bought some rice milk yesterday to try, and was wondering if anyone knew anything about it? Huh

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« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2006, 10:39:22 AM » by khix

Quote from: 1N1is6 on August 02, 2006, 06:56:05 PM

So, I bought some rice milk yesterday to try, and was wondering if anyone knew anything about it? Huh

~Heidi

My youngest daughter is allergic to cow's milk, and she & I both use/drink rice milk (brand Rice Dream). She loves it & so do I. I especially like the vanilla flavor. I also like how light the texture is. I find that cow's milk, even skim milk, 'coats' my mouth, and I don't like it. I still use cow's milk for cooking/baking (the rest of my family baulk at the idea of rice milk!), so I'm not sure how it would do it those situations, but for drinking or pouring over cereal, it's awesome.

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« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2006, 03:39:03 PM » by blsd2bhome

My 4 yr old son has had intense allergic reactions to cow's milk when he was an infant. We switched to almond milk, and now buy it by the case from a local coop. I use it in everything I cook. Mashed potatoes seem to have an unliked flavor with almond milk, so I just use part of the potato water to soften them and mash. I have tried to make almond milk, but just didn't like the flavor or texture. The brand we use is "Almond Breeze" and now comes in an unsweetened variety of vanilla, plain, and chocolate. We all drink it straight from the cup now. And is wonderful on cereal!

I am truly interested in goat's milk, and wonder if my son would still have reactions to it. We found his allergy....the hospital (children's specialty doctors, too!) did not believe that it was an allergy that was his problem, but he grew so wonderfully after taking him off of breast milk and milk formula! He threw up when we gave him cheese, so we think it was an allergy to casein protein, not lactose intollerance.

I have 2 questions, 1) does anyone know how to find out if we have a goat dairy in our community? and 2) does anyone have a good substitute for powdered milk?
I like to pre-make mixes, but most call for powdered milk or powdered buttermilk.

I no longer cook with any milk products....it just makes it easier on me to prepare one meal. They can add cheese at the table to their liking.
We have found almond milk our favorite over all other substitutes

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« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2006, 03:55:57 PM » by mexmarr

Walmart sells canned goats milk. Its like evaporated milk, just goat. You will find it near the evaporated/sweetened condensed milk.

While fresh would be much better, it could be a good option, especially if you are using canned milk anyway. Both of my dd's drank it. My first weaned at 7 months because I was 3 months pregnant. I didn't want to give her cow's milk, and that is when I started the canned goat's milk. I liked it much better than powered, which I did find. She was still on a mostly milk diet.

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« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2006, 04:49:31 PM » by mommyoftwins

Quote from: RunAmokFarm on July 24, 2006, 09:07:38 PM

Research has found that goat milk can be used therapeutically to treat conditions such as asthma, colitis, digestive problems, eczema, hay fever, liver and gall-bladder disease to name a few.

My daughter has eczema from a slight cow's milk allergy. Would the goat's milk from the store also have the same therapeutic properties as fresh? We found a supplier, but won't have any milk until April.

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« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2006, 08:32:31 PM » by healthyinOhio

Quote from: mommyoftwins on December 07, 2006, 04:49:31 PM

Would the goat's milk from the store also have the same therapeutic properties as fresh?

I would say no because it is probably pasteurized. But I think that it would still be far easier to digest than cow's. HTH.

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« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2006, 11:09:43 PM » by Kitty

I've been looking for this:

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Hi Shawna,

This is what I know on the subject of milk allergies:

Cow milk allergies are far more common and potentially dangerous than most people realize. Generally developing during infancy, these allergies can continue into adulthood… Most people will never develop serious health issues, but research has shown that the 6% that have allergies do become highly sensitized and unable to maintain proper health or growth while on cow milk.

Symptoms of milk allergies can vary among individuals but the most common clues are: abdominal pain, asthma, bed-wetting, colic, constipation, croup, diarrhea, ear congestion – causing ear infections, eczema, headache - up to 70% of migraines are caused by food allergies, and 98% of those with allergies are allergic to cow milk-, hyperactivity, respiratory problems, sinusitis…

OK. We have been on raw milk since June. I have had poor sleepers...gassy...My ds at almost 3, still wakes up from time to time, distraught...then he may fall back to sleep w/ me or burp or pass gas. I notice it when he's had dairy that wasn't from raw milk...tonight it was an ice cream sandwich. Roll Eyes

DS, 6, on the other hand, goes through cycles of behavioral stuff...wondering if it's the same thing w/ him. We just switched to cheese made from raw milk at at our local co-op, but occasionally, things like sour cream or salad dressing or pizza cheese gets in them. Do you think it's a stretch to say that contributes to their troubles?

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« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2006, 08:11:05 AM » by Kitty

I thought I'd elaborate a bit on the sleeping trouble...

Again last night, ds (3) would start to whine and grunt and fuss--He is next to our bed in a toddler bed. He cannot articulate what's wrong...sometimes he's wet (he's been weaned a month but he is so wet at night--toilet trained but wears a diaper at night. Is this a bed wetting consequences, perhaps?); sometimes he's comforted by crawling in w/ us. This morning he said that his tummy doesn't feel good.

All I think he had was the ice cream sandwich...ahhh...DH just revealed that he has cheese in town. Hmmm..

Is ice cream considered troublesome? Are some made w/ strictly cream (I thought that was OK)?

Just some questions and no answers...(yet) Cheesy

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Re: Milk Allergies
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2006, 09:57:45 AM » by RB

Hi YooperMama,
Our son is almost 3 he's not weaned yet though. Grin

He was the king of colic as an infant! And he improved when we switched to using goats milk, as even milk (raw) from grass fed cows bothers him. We can always tell when he had cow's milk, as he as trouble sleeping and is fussy. He seems fine if its kefir, raw cheese, cream, and yogurt in limited amounts. I don't have time to elaborate right now. Feel free to PM me if you want.
Blessing's,
RB

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Re: Milk Allergies
« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2006, 01:22:26 PM » by boysmama

Quote from: shawnaincov on July 24, 2006, 08:35:19 PM

Jammy,
I don't know if this will help but We noticed that even if we gave him cheese flavord chips or sour cream and onion chips he would break out. Something that breaks him out worse than anything is Ranch dressing Huh

I am not sure why that is worse. The only thing that he has brokeout worse from is actual milk, and ice cream.

Shawna Kiss

I know this is an old post, but I had to comment because I have no dairy allergies but do react to chips and ESPECIALLY Ranch, too. For me it is not the dairy but the MSG (and possibly other preservatives/flavor enhancers) that I react to. Your son might have more than one sensitivity resulting in more severe reactions from "double trouble" foods.

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Re: Milk Allergies
« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2007, 10:29:17 AM » by iluvphil

I'm new to the forum, i hope I'm doing this right!

I have a question... is there a difference between food allergies and food intolerace? I'm wondering if my 13 mon. old has a dairy intolerace but I don't know if I can say she's allergic to it because she doesn't break out in a rash. But she has chronic diarrhea. I breastfed her till she was 5 months old, then i switched her to formula and she seemed to do fine on it till about 3 months ago. She had a bad case of the stomach flu and she just threw up the formula so i took her off of it for a few days till she got over the flu, but she never got over the diarrhea. I don't know if that has anything to do with her diarrhea now; it just seems like that's when she first started with it. Her messes are strong smelling, usually dark orangy or greenish and often they have food particle in it so she must not be properly digesting her food. She is gaining weight but I'm still concerned about it. She loves cheese and yogurt and milk (store bought whole mixed with formula). What do you think? Does it sound like a dairy allergy/intolerance? Could she have been fine with it and then all of a sudden developed an intolerance to it? Or could it be a wheat allergy? (She loves bread as well.) I would love to find out what is wrong and fix the problem and I'm also tired of soaking her yucky, stinky clothes after a big mess! Sad

Thanks!

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Re: Milk Allergies
« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2007, 12:21:01 PM » by uptrapperdansgirl

two of my four babies have milk allergies. I suggest that you take your baby off all of the dairy and possibly even the wheat. It sounds hard, but just try it to see if there is improvement. you can feed baby things like beans well cooked. brown rice. have you ever heard of Eziekal bread? all the grains are sprouted. my little ones tolerate it well. (they also loved bread.) eziekal bread is pricey, but worth it. and fresh veggies you can eat alot of. hope this helps. Read Likemanywaters threads. there are many others as well. Starting this all now will save many problems in the long run. have a beautiful day!!

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Re: Milk Allergies
« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2007, 01:01:39 PM » by BJ_BOBBI_JO

Both my husband and I have never been able to tolerate milk. Our kids are the same way.

Milk makes me and my family:
- weak
-gives sinus troubles
- clogges up my ears
-makes my bladder feel the urge to pee more even if the pee volume is in small amounts.
-and worse of all it gives us all digestive troubles like cramping diarrhea and other yucky stuff.

I have about given up on milk and am about to call it evil. LOL.
We use it in some cooking sometimes but not often. I have had ppl and docs say I should take those lactose intolerance pills so I can drink milk but that seems silly to me to have to take pills so I can eat something thats bad for me when it would be better to just not eat/drink it in the 1st place. We have tried lactose intolerant milk and it dont help either.

I remeber when I was a young kid the adults would say how important milk is and how I must drink it. I would gag it down and be sick later for it.

I give my kdis chewable calcium pills and I take calcium myself.

I am currently reading a book wrote by a Christian Doctor who is a big believer in eating healthy and using herbs. If Im remembering it correctly he states in the book that cow milk is like glue inside our bodies and it also creates mucus ( extra liquid) in our sinuses, digestive tracts and many other places.

He says cow milk is not a good source of milk and that its made to be good for a baby cow not a human. He says that if we think we need milk then goats milk is far better for our bodies then cow milk.

I think goats milk taste nasty so I wont mess with it and its to costly so I just stick to my calcium pills. I wish soy milk was not so bad for our hormones because my kids have done very well on soy milk when we have gotten it.

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