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  Re: Making Kefir: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #570 on: December 17, 2007, 11:21:18 AM » by H0MEFree
Quote from: 4myhoonie on December 11, 2007, 11:41:44 PM
Quote from: kper on December 11, 2007, 09:25:32 AM
Quote from: mom24boys on December 11, 2007, 01:39:38 AM
I got my granules just before Thanksgiving.  I haven't had a creamy batch yet.  It all separates and gets chunky.

Ive used it for baking but nothing else.  It would be nice to get something creamy going.

Dom's site said to leave it out for 24 hours in a cupboard... once I started doing this, I finally had THICK kefir. Also, the pics on his site show what it's supposed to look like after 24 and 48 hrs. I now have normal kefir! Wink
HTH!

okie dokie!  will try it, though i was getting great kefir just sitting on the counter.




Okay ladies, I posted a "walk through" on my blog recently on making kefir. The photos and tips should help.

Just remember- you really do need to use your blender to get smooth beautiful kefir.

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  Re: Making Kefir: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #571 on: December 17, 2007, 12:40:12 PM » by kper

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Quote from: H0MEFree on December 17, 2007, 11:21:18 AM
Quote from: 4myhoonie on December 11, 2007, 11:41:44 PM
Quote from: kper on December 11, 2007, 09:25:32 AM
Quote from: mom24boys on December 11, 2007, 01:39:38 AM
I got my granules just before Thanksgiving.  I haven't had a creamy batch yet.  It all separates and gets chunky.

Ive used it for baking but nothing else.  It would be nice to get something creamy going.

Dom's site said to leave it out for 24 hours in a cupboard... once I started doing this, I finally had THICK kefir. Also, the pics on his site show what it's supposed to look like after 24 and 48 hrs. I now have normal kefir! Wink
HTH!

okie dokie!  will try it, though i was getting great kefir just sitting on the counter.




Okay ladies, I posted a "walk through" on my blog recently on making kefir. The photos and tips should help.

Just remember- you really do need to use your blender to get smooth beautiful kefir.

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« Reply #572 on: December 18, 2007, 06:49:39 PM » by 4myhoonie
homefree--i can't see most of the pictures on your site.  don't know if it's my computer or what.  just wondering, is it too many grains if they cover the bottom of the quart jar and i fill it up with milk?  i am trying the 24 hrs. in the cupboard tonight.  thanks!

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« Reply #573 on: December 18, 2007, 07:10:40 PM » by Pennie

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So.........you can kefir with storebought homogenized pasteurized milk?  What about the whole fat crystal peircing your gut etc?  We have not drank store bought milk in well over a yr.  I have never kefired with it.  I do however get really stingy with the raw milk and "worry" about my grains b/c if we run out we run out and I just have to wait..It is an hour to the closest place to get raw milk for us.  I am just wondering if the store bought milk causes an allergy in my son(and it does)will the kefir benefit him or not with store bought?  I DID pay 20 dollars for my grains only it was probly less than a 1/4 of a cup.  More like a blob and they have never grown like Homefrees showed.  I do only make a quart at a time though.  I am not particular about saving the babies though either.  I strain them thru a colander.  I have given away only three blobs myself b/c they don't seem to grow that much or that fast.  Maybe b/c they sit sometimes? 
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« Reply #574 on: December 18, 2007, 09:30:44 PM » by kper

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Quote from: 4myhoonie on December 18, 2007, 06:49:39 PM
kper--i can't see most of the pictures on your site.  just wondering, is it too many grains if they cover the bottom of the quart jar and i fill it up with milk?  i am trying the 24 hrs. in the cupboard tonight.  thanks!

It's not "my" site.. just one that was recommended earlier on this thread, but here it is again: http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~dna/Makekefir.html

You may want to go back to the first pages of this thread and read through (all 20! Roll Eyes ) Most of my questions have been answered just by reading.

I'm relatively new at kefir making, but have had great success just applying what I've learned here. DH told MIL that the kefir was one of the best things about this site! Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

HTH!

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« Reply #575 on: December 19, 2007, 12:11:50 AM » by 4myhoonie
Quote from: kper on December 18, 2007, 09:30:44 PM
Quote from: 4myhoonie on December 18, 2007, 06:49:39 PM
kper--i can't see most of the pictures on your site.  just wondering, is it too many grains if they cover the bottom of the quart jar and i fill it up with milk?  i am trying the 24 hrs. in the cupboard tonight.  thanks!

It's not "my" site.. just one that was recommended earlier on this thread, but here it is again: http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~dna/Makekefir.html

You may want to go back to the first pages of this thread and read through (all 20! Roll Eyes ) Most of my questions have been answered just by reading.

I'm relatively new at kefir making, but have had great success just applying what I've learned here. DH told MIL that the kefir was one of the best things about this site! Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

HTH!

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« Reply #576 on: December 19, 2007, 07:56:50 AM » by kper

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Quote from: 4myhoonie on December 19, 2007, 12:11:50 AM
Quote from: kper on December 18, 2007, 09:30:44 PM
Quote from: 4myhoonie on December 18, 2007, 06:49:39 PM
kper--i can't see most of the pictures on your site.  just wondering, is it too many grains if they cover the bottom of the quart jar and i fill it up with milk?  i am trying the 24 hrs. in the cupboard tonight.  thanks!

It's not "my" site.. just one that was recommended earlier on this thread, but here it is again: http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~dna/Makekefir.html

You may want to go back to the first pages of this thread and read through (all 20! Roll Eyes ) Most of my questions have been answered just by reading.

I'm relatively new at kefir making, but have had great success just applying what I've learned here. DH told MIL that the kefir was one of the best things about this site! Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

HTH!

oops, sorry.

No problem! I just realized that you may have been trying to access HOMEfree's webpage. You may want to PM her.

Another suggestion for your grains is to divide them into 2 mason jars and see if that helps any.

The best thing I've learned here is that you can't really mess up kefir making and it's all trial and error! Wink
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« Reply #577 on: December 20, 2007, 10:11:53 AM » by 4myhoonie
wow!  all i can say is wow!!!!   Shocked  i made a batch of kefir in the pantry and it is the creamiest most thick stuff ever!  you all have GOT to try this method!  i covered the bottom of a quart jar with the grains and filled it to the top with skim milk and left it 24 hours. it is beautiful!!!  i guess they like the dark!   Cool  thank you for the great idea! 
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« Reply #578 on: December 20, 2007, 11:54:38 AM » by lotsaboys

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wow!  all i can say is wow!!!!   Shocked  i made a batch of kefir in the pantry and it is the creamiest most thick stuff ever!  you all have GOT to try this method!  i covered the bottom of a quart jar with the grains and filled it to the top with skim milk and left it 24 hours. it is beautiful!!!  i guess they like the dark!   Cool  thank you for the great idea! 

I assume you used bought skim milk or was it raw with the cream removed?
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« Reply #579 on: December 20, 2007, 01:07:25 PM » by 4myhoonie
Quote from: lotsaboys on December 20, 2007, 11:54:38 AM
Quote from: 4myhoonie on December 20, 2007, 10:11:53 AM
wow!  all i can say is wow!!!!   Shocked  i made a batch of kefir in the pantry and it is the creamiest most thick stuff ever!  you all have GOT to try this method!  i covered the bottom of a quart jar with the grains and filled it to the top with skim milk and left it 24 hours. it is beautiful!!!  i guess they like the dark!   Cool  thank you for the great idea! 

I assume you used bought skim milk or was it raw with the cream removed?

yup.  sadly, raw milk is illegal here and i can't find any farmers who want to skirt the law.  Sad we just use store bought skim (AE) for everything. 
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  Re: Making Kefir: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #580 on: December 20, 2007, 03:26:38 PM » by Anneatheart
Does anyone have extra grains they wouldn't mind giving away? I can pay for shipping. (I live in Texas)
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« Reply #581 on: December 20, 2007, 04:07:32 PM » by herbs girl
Has anyone noticed Kefir helping morning sickness? I dont have the problem, but I read poeple were having luck with tummy tuneup for severe morning sickness. Doesnt it make sense that Kefir would help too?

Milk almost always made my stomach feel better when I had my all day and all most all night morning sickness

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« Reply #582 on: December 20, 2007, 08:25:36 PM » by purewellspring
Quote from: herbs girl on December 20, 2007, 04:07:32 PM
Has anyone noticed Kefir helping morning sickness? I dont have the problem, but I read poeple were having luck with tummy tuneup for severe morning sickness. Doesnt it make sense that Kefir would help too?

Milk almost always made my stomach feel better when I had my all day and all most all night morning sickness



Well, for me Kefir was the biggest thing I DIDN'T want!  Grin Roll Eyes I had been making it for a few weeks and using it in smoothies...and then morning sickness. Just the smell was enough to send me over the edge. So I kept making it sometimes just so my grains wouldn't die, and stored it in the fridge in between (well, until an unknowing houseguest threw them away, which led to another symptom of pregnancy, the emotional meltdown...but I digress  Tongue). But it probably just depends on the person. Probiotics did help me somewhat, but I couldn't stand the smell of anything fermenting during my morning/all day sickness.
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« Reply #583 on: December 24, 2007, 11:07:43 PM » by pupu4four
So I made my first batch of successful kefir this week and made smoothies for the fam with it.  I thought it was wonderful, and dh drank a bit, but I think something about the process of culturing the milk grosses him out.  I'm not allowed to say kefir in the house anymore.  He says it even sounds gross. 

So, I'd like to sneak some of the kefir into foods where he won't notice the difference.  He can get the benefits without knowing it.  Does anyone have any suggestions or recipes?  Does it kill the beneficial part of it to cook with it?  I have 14 more pages to read through on this thread, so if someone knows where the answers to these questions might be posted please let me know.  Grin
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« Reply #584 on: December 25, 2007, 04:22:22 AM » by H0MEFree
Quote from: 4myhoonie on December 18, 2007, 06:49:39 PM
homefree--i can't see most of the pictures on your site.  don't know if it's my computer or what.  just wondering, is it too many grains if they cover the bottom of the quart jar and i fill it up with milk?  i am trying the 24 hrs. in the cupboard tonight.  thanks!

No, that is not too many grains! You are doing great!
I do not know why you cannot get the photos to load. I host them on my own server. Maybe try clicking to reload the page? If you are still having diificulty, PM me. I can email you pics or send direct photo links! Smiley
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« Reply #585 on: December 25, 2007, 08:01:26 PM » by Kellyj
Quote from: pupu4four on December 24, 2007, 11:07:43 PM
So I made my first batch of successful kefir this week and made smoothies for the fam with it.  I thought it was wonderful, and dh drank a bit, but I think something about the process of culturing the milk grosses him out.  I'm not allowed to say kefir in the house anymore.  He says it even sounds gross. 

So, I'd like to sneak some of the kefir into foods where he won't notice the difference.  He can get the benefits without knowing it.  Does anyone have any suggestions or recipes?  Does it kill the beneficial part of it to cook with it?  I have 14 more pages to read through on this thread, so if someone knows where the answers to these questions might be posted please let me know.  Grin

I'm not sure if cooking with kefir kills the beneficial part or not. I cook with it anyway. I use it in any recipes that call for yogurt or buttermilk. When I make biscuits for breakfast, I soak the wheat flour in kefir milk over night. I also soak my wheat flour for all bread products in kefir milk. I make my dh a coconut yogurt smoothie for breakfast but substitute kefir for yogurt and he can't tell the difference (he knows I do it so maybe that's why he can't tell a difference).
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« Reply #586 on: December 26, 2007, 04:30:17 PM » by Kitty
Hey!   Grin

We should get a FAQ page for Kombucha, kefir, etc...Grin  (No, I'm not volunteering).  Cheesy

I can see why many get frustrated w/ 20 pages--that's what I'm looking at now.  Sad  I know that I should just PM lotsaboys  Wink, and ask her but I'll post my question anyhow.  She'll probably answer!   Kiss

Can I make kefir w/ slightly sour raw milk or need it be fresh?
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« Reply #587 on: December 26, 2007, 08:27:28 PM » by lotsaboys

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Hey!   Grin

We should get a FAQ page for Kombucha, kefir, etc...Grin  (No, I'm not volunteering).  Cheesy

I can see why many get frustrated w/ 20 pages--that's what I'm looking at now.  Sad  I know that I should just PM lotsaboys  Wink, and ask her but I'll post my question anyhow.  She'll probably answer!   Kiss

Can I make kefir w/ slightly sour raw milk or need it be fresh?
LOL Yooper! I'm no expert ya know. Wink As for your question, if it was me...
I'd use it. Slightly sour milk doesn't scare me, it just tastes a little weird which you won't notice in kefir. Also, I think the grains will kinda "freshen up" the milk. I don't have any documented proof for any of this- just my feelings and thoughts. Roll Eyes Grin
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« Reply #588 on: December 26, 2007, 08:40:35 PM » by Kitty
Ahhh good, the trustworthy voice of experience!  If you'd do it, then so will I.  Grin  Thanks!  Kiss
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« Reply #589 on: December 27, 2007, 11:42:13 AM » by kper

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Quote from: Yooper on December 26, 2007, 04:30:17 PM
Hey!   Grin

We should get a FAQ page for Kombucha, kefir, etc...Grin  (No, I'm not volunteering).  Cheesy

I can see why many get frustrated w/ 20 pages--that's what I'm looking at now.  Sad  I know that I should just PM lotsaboys  Wink, and ask her but I'll post my question anyhow.  She'll probably answer!   Kiss

Can I make kefir w/ slightly sour raw milk or need it be fresh?
LOL Yooper! I'm no expert ya know. Wink As for your question, if it was me...
I'd use it. Slightly sour milk doesn't scare me, it just tastes a little weird which you won't notice in kefir. Also, I think the grains will kinda "freshen up" the milk. I don't have any documented proof for any of this- just my feelings and thoughts. Roll Eyes Grin

If sour milk would work, what about buttermilk? It's soured to begin with... or is the sugar content not enough to feed the grains? I'm under the impression that sour milk isn't harmful for you; it just tastes bad Tongue not that you asked me for my opinion or anything! Grin Wink
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« Reply #590 on: December 29, 2007, 12:02:29 PM » by healthybratt

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Does anyone have extra grains they wouldn't mind giving away? I can pay for shipping. (I live in Texas)

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« Reply #591 on: January 03, 2008, 06:27:30 PM » by Pennie

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I need a tip. Smiley  Can someone that is lactose intolerant tolerate kefir made with raw milk?   Wink I have a friend that is wondering, I figured yes but I thought to be safe I would ask on here as I am sure if it's possible one of you ladies would know.  Thanks
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« Reply #592 on: January 04, 2008, 07:54:14 AM » by Pennie

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I need a tip. Smiley  Can someone that is lactose intolerant tolerate kefir made with raw milk?   Wink I have a friend that is wondering, I figured yes but I thought to be safe I would ask on here as I am sure if it's possible one of you ladies would know.  Thanks
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« Reply #593 on: January 04, 2008, 11:34:56 AM » by lotsaboys

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Hi Pennie, according to people I know or have read about, most can but there are some who can't. hth
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« Reply #594 on: January 04, 2008, 03:07:19 PM » by queentea
has anyone made kefir with raw cream?  I have an excess of cream, but not really milk (have to skim off most of cream for dh and kids) and I need to make more kefir.  Our raw milk supplier is on vacations so I kind of have to ration our milk and would like to use the cream for kefir.  We just use it in smoothies and baked goods anyway.
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« Reply #595 on: January 04, 2008, 05:10:26 PM » by Anneatheart
My kefir is tasting 'yeasty'. I got the grains last Saturday, 3 blobs, have been using regular store bought whole milk. I put roughly 2 cups of milk to five 1 inch blobs of grains in a jar, cover loosely with the lid, and put it in the cupboard for 24hrs. The texture is fine, but it has a yeast taste.

Too many grains? Should I rinse the grains?
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« Reply #596 on: January 04, 2008, 10:14:33 PM » by lotsaboys

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My kefir is tasting 'yeasty'. I got the grains last Saturday, 3 blobs, have been using regular store bought whole milk. I put roughly 2 cups of milk to five 1 inch blobs of grains in a jar, cover loosely with the lid, and put it in the cupboard for 24hrs. The texture is fine, but it has a yeast taste.

Too many grains? Should I rinse the grains?
That does sound to me like more grains than you need for 2 c milk. Guess you could try less, like only two of your "blobs" and see if it smells less yeasty.
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« Reply #597 on: January 04, 2008, 10:22:03 PM » by lotsaboys

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has anyone made kefir with raw cream?  I have an excess of cream, but not really milk (have to skim off most of cream for dh and kids) and I need to make more kefir.  Our raw milk supplier is on vacations so I kind of have to ration our milk and would like to use the cream for kefir.  We just use it in smoothies and baked goods anyway.
I'd give it a try. You can use kefir grains in all kinds of juices, teas, and even water, so why not cream? Smiley
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« Reply #598 on: January 04, 2008, 10:24:52 PM » by Pennie

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I may have asked this b/f, in fact, I know I did but never got an answer.  It looks like I may have to resort to doing store bought milk atleast some of the time for my kefir.  Has anyone done both store and bought and did you notice a difference?  I am wondering if the whole homo problem with drinking the milk would be the same with kefiring or even baking with it?  And is it better to use whole or skim?  I would really appreciate some help on this as my 8 yr old really has had problems with store bought milk in the past.  Thanks.  Smiley
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« Reply #599 on: January 04, 2008, 10:55:12 PM » by createddaisy
I think skim is better than whole store bought milk.  I read on here that Rebekka said she used powdered milk because it is not homogenized.  I think.  I will have to try to find the post.  It might be an alternative.
I have noticed a difference in store bought and raw. We like the raw better, always has a little cream in it.  Wink  HTH
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