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  Re: Respiratory/Seasonal Allergies
« Reply #60 on: May 17, 2007, 04:02:43 PM » by Mom2four
Unless you know someone that you could borrow from, as far as I know you have to have a prescription and buy one from a pharmacy.  Wal-Mart is the cheapest - they are about $100 - at least they were when we bought ours, but that was 9 years ago...they could be up or down, who knows?  If you have insurance it should pay for it.  Ours paid 100% - and it is not that great of insurance.  Roll Eyes

The medication we use from the doctor is called Xopenex.  It is not a steroid, though many docs will try to give them prednisone in addition to the neb meds.  We try to avoid that.  I prefer the Xopenex to Albuteral (which is the one they more commonly prescribe).  I do not find that Xopenex has the jittery, hyper, high heart rate, side effects that you find with the others.  However, as I said, I would try the natural things in the neb first.  I like collodial silver, someone else mentioned saline.
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« Reply #61 on: May 21, 2007, 04:45:02 PM » by Janacat
I haven't seen anything recent on this topic. I saw something about yamoa on a thread. The problem is I am breastfeeding and most herb info and doctor's tell you to stay  from almost everything. Besides the basic Tylenol cold and allergy has anyone else found natural relief for itchy eyes and sneezing that has been found safe for breastfeeding.
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« Reply #62 on: May 22, 2007, 09:46:48 AM » by rebeccahuff
This is a stupid question, I'm sure, but if one were to use the GSE for seasonal allergies, how would you do it? I'm picturing adding it to saline drops and then what? Put it in the nose?Huh Wouldn't that burn? I really would like a solution, the pollen here in Crossville TN is so thick you can scrape it off your car into little balls of fluff...I'm sure we are breathing in buckets full of the stuff (from Oak trees I think) anyhow, my son & DH are very bothered by it, so I am desperately trying to help them.
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« Reply #63 on: May 22, 2007, 11:22:12 AM » by Mama_KK
I put 6 drops of GSE in my sons saline nasal wash.  It is a very large bottle, not sure how many ounces though.  It seems to be helping?  If you haven't already, you might want to read through this topic as well: 

http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,4014.0.html

Hope this helps  Smiley

Blessings, Kendra Kae
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« Reply #64 on: May 22, 2007, 02:39:21 PM » by Julia
Question for Dr. Moms with Allergy Expertise:  My 3 year old and 5 year old are both getting lots of goop in their eyes for the past few days. They don't seem to have colds and their eyes seem irritated but not infected. Does that sound like allergies? They haven't had allergies before but we did move to a whole new area of the country just two years ago.
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« Reply #65 on: May 22, 2007, 07:19:04 PM » by petrimama
I highly recommend the rite-neb because it is only about $50, and they are all pretty effective nowadays.  Try amazon.com, or doing a web search if you don't have a medical supply store near you.     ~L
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« Reply #66 on: June 11, 2007, 06:08:06 PM » by Maria/NHM
I wanted to bump this thread up. My DH has terrible allergies all summer. He eats very well and I've tried every natural remedy/diet change I can find. I was wondering if anyone had found anything that really helped. He is so miserable and I'm out of ideas  Undecided


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  Re: Respiratory/Seasonal Allergies
« Reply #67 on: June 11, 2007, 06:37:09 PM » by Mom2FourBlessings
I found a product at our Health Foods Store called Allercetin (sp?) I can't find the box right now.. I am not sure but I think it is homeopathic, and homeopathy makes no sense to me how it could work.. BUT these tablets worked WONDERS for my children's (ages 4 & 7 at the time), allergies, it did contain some ragweed pollen Xwhatever the number was, and some other local pollens here in TN, and others I had never heard of and some histastop  Huh that was a natural decongestant, the master herbalist there swore by it and claimed they could ingest the whole box with no ill effects.. (we never tried that thankfully Wink)  but anyway, I never tried it myself but I used it 2 years with them and they never, EVER had any allergies symptoms after the first week of taking it.. and they had ALWAYS had severe allergies, to the point of asthma attacks and sinus infections galore..  it took it about a week to start working, but when it kicked in, it was greeeeeaaaaatttt.. Thankfully this year we have had no allergy symptoms thus far, other than an occassional sniffle, but nothing snififng some teatree/eucalyptus oil wouldn't help..  Grin 

If I find the box I will come back and put the exact name in..

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« Reply #68 on: June 12, 2007, 01:11:37 AM » by Melie
I found a product at our Health Foods Store called Allercetin (sp?) I can't find the box right now.. I am not sure but I think it is homeopathic, and homeopathy makes no sense to me how it could work.. BUT these tablets worked WONDERS for my children's (ages 4 & 7 at the time), allergies, it did contain some ragweed pollen Xwhatever the number was, and some other local pollens here in TN, and others I had never heard of and some histastop  Huh that was a natural decongestant, the master herbalist there swore by it and claimed they could ingest the whole box with no ill effects.. (we never tried that thankfully Wink)  but anyway, I never tried it myself but I used it 2 years with them and they never, EVER had any allergies symptoms after the first week of taking it.. and they had ALWAYS had severe allergies, to the point of asthma attacks and sinus infections galore..  it took it about a week to start working, but when it kicked in, it was greeeeeaaaaatttt.. Thankfully this year we have had no allergy symptoms thus far, other than an occassional sniffle, but nothing snififng some teatree/eucalyptus oil wouldn't help..  Grin 

If I find the box I will come back and put the exact name in..

HTH

Yes, please give the info if you do find the box.  My eyes and throat have started their annual itching and it only gets worse from here.  I would love to find some relief.
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  Re: Respiratory/Seasonal Allergies
« Reply #69 on: June 12, 2007, 11:08:44 AM » by Mom2FourBlessings
It is called Allercetin  Allergy & Sinus

It is made by Source Naturals

the box has a website listed it is:

www.sourcenaturals.com

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  Re: Respiratory/Seasonal Allergies
« Reply #70 on: June 12, 2007, 01:41:14 PM » by Yooper
My 3 week old RAST results are in (finally):  Bermuda (moderate) and timothy (v. high) grasses were the only 2 positives.  Great.  Now what does THAT mean?  No haymaking?  No lawn mowing?  Whatever!   Roll Eyes   I love chewing on timothy when I go walking...guess that's out.  Some extremists would say no hanging wash on the line!  Then why is my skin worse in the winter?? Our grass is COVERED IN FEET OF SNOW!

ARRRGGGHHHH!

OK.  I do eat local honey and local milk. I am gluten-free (only 3 weeks) and have been eating healthy for awhile.  I don't have "typical" allergy symptoms w/ eyes, nose, throat, etc.  Just skin rash.         

Any tips?  I went to the grass allergy thread, too. 
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« Reply #71 on: June 12, 2007, 02:34:49 PM » by Yooper
Helpful article on natural treatments for allergies--some excerpts:

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Nettle (Urtica dioica): Nettle has enjoyed a long history as a treatment for seasonal allergies. Dr. Andrew Weil, author of Natural Health, Natural Medicine (Houghton Mifflin, 1998) reports success with this herb to treat his own allergies. Be careful not to confuse this herb with another species, U. Urens, which contains high levels of leukotrienes and histamine.

Ephedra (Ephedra sinicia): Also known as mahuang, the generic name of this herb may be familiar since a synthetic version of its primary alkaloid, ephedrine, can be found in many conventional remedies as pseudoephedrine.  This herb has been used to treat bronchial and inflammatory disorders in Chinese medicine for more than 5,000 years. In fact, ephedra is often used to treat asthma. Note: Ephedra can raise both systolic and diastolic blood pressure and can cause excitability in some individuals.

Echinacea (Echinacea purpurea): Also known as purple coneflower, this Native American herb is one of the best immune enhancing supplements you can take.  Echinacea has been the subject of more than 50 years worth of study and has clearly demonstrated an ability to increase the production of a number of T-cells and their distribution in the blood.

Garlic (Allium sativum): The antiviral properties of garlic have been well examined for many years. In Russia, the herb is known as "Russian penicillin" where it was once used to treat respiratory disorders in hospitals. Recent Japanese studies have found that aged garlic extract stimulates NK activity and a potent antimicrobial action against bacteria and yeasts.  Garlic owes its efficacy to allicin, a byproduct derived from the amino acid alliin reacting with the enzyme alliinase. The biosynthesis of these constituents however, can be unstable in their natural state. Raw garlic is certainly good for you and has several health benefits to offer otherwise, but the enzyme necessary to produce allicin is usually destroyed in the stomach before the conversion can take place. For this reason, enteric-coated tablets of dried or powdered garlic tablets is the best form of supplementation to take advantage of this herb's immune-boosting qualities.  Note: Garlic, and other alliums can raise or lower blood sugar levels. Consult your health care practitioner if you are diabetic or hypoglycemic.

Dosages:
Stinging nettle - 250 mg. freeze-dried extract every 2-4 hours or until symptoms subside
Ephedra: 12.5 - 25 mg. 3x day
Quercetin - 400 mg. 2x day between meals
Echinacea - 350 mg 3x day
Garlic - tablet equivalent of 10 cloves of garlic

http://www.healingwell.com/allergies/..%5Clibrary%5Callergies%5Csiegelmaier1.asp

Time to go harvest some nettles and get some tea going w/ echinacea!  I think I've seen you all discussing quercetin....time then to read some posts!   Cheesy

PS Anyone hear of butterbur?

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  Re: Respiratory/Seasonal Allergies
« Reply #72 on: June 12, 2007, 07:33:15 PM » by Yooper
Some more research...
http://www.webmd.com/allergies/features/natural-allergy-relief?page=1

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Among those generating the loudest buzz right now is the European herb butterbur (Petasites hybridus), which, says Hardy, "has had some very impressive clinical trial results."

In one study, published recently in the British Medical Journal, a group of Swiss researchers showed how just one tablet of butterbur four times daily was as effective as a popular antihistamine drug in controlling symptoms of hay fever -- without the traditional symptom of drowsiness that sometimes occurs. In a second study, presented in March 2003 at the 60th annual meeting of the American Academy of Allergy, Asthma, and Immunology (AAAAI), a group of British researchers put their stamp of approval on butterbur's effectiveness in quelling symptoms of grass allergy.

Other herbal supplements proving helpful, says Hardy, include freeze-dried nettles and a tonic made from the herb goldenseal, which she recommends adding to still one more natural treatment -- a saline (salt water) nasal spray.

"The saline works to wash out pollen and reduce or thin mucous -- the goldenseal has astringent and local antibacterial properties which can aid in this process," Hardy tells WebMD.

In addition to herbs, many naturopathic doctors also believe certain nutrients can be helpful in quieting seasonal symptoms. Among the most popular are grape seed extract and a flavonoid compound known as quercetin. Although both occur naturally in many foods -- and are especially abundant in red wine -- when used in supplement form they can be extremely helpful in reducing allergy symptoms, particularly in conjunction with vitamin C, says James Dillard, MD.

"There is even some evidence that quercetin may control the release of histamine and other chemicals that help initiate the allergic response," says Dillard, clinical advisor to Columbia University's Rosenthal Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine, and assistant clinical professor at Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons.

Turning the focus from the medicine chest to the kitchen cabinet, you might want to try cooking up some allergy relief in the form of hot, spicy foods. The reason: Experts say the spicier the dish, the more likely it is to thin mucous secretions, which in turn can clear nasal passages. Among the most frequently recommended spices for this purpose include cayenne pepper, hot ginger, and fenugreek, as well as the traditional onion and garlic.

Interestingly, what you don't eat may be even more important than what you do eat. The reason, according to Hardy, is that food intolerance may be far more intimately entwined with seasonal allergies than we realize.

"You have to really look at your diet and cut out any foods that seem to provoke even a mild sensitivity, such as occasional hives or even stomach upset, " says Hardy. In doing so, she says, you can literally lighten the burden on your immune system, which in turn may help reduce the impact of seasonal allergic reactions.

According to New York University allergist Clifford Bassett, MD, if you suffer from ragweed or other weed pollen allergies, "you should avoid eating melon, banana, cucumber, sunflower seeds, chamomile, and any herbal supplements containing echinacea, all of which can make symptoms much worse," he says.
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« Reply #73 on: June 18, 2007, 12:05:03 PM » by Melie
I just wanted to mention a product that is really helping me with my seasonal allergies this year.  It's  a homeopathic product.  The company is "bioAllers".  It's just called Grass Pollen Treatment.  It's in a 1 oz dropper bottle and you just put 15 drops under the tongue every 3-4 hours.  It's knocked out my symptoms every time over the past few days.  There were lots of others for different allergies.  All named with the allergy type.  This is the first time I have had success with homeopathy.  Just wanted to pass that along.
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« Reply #74 on: June 18, 2007, 12:49:16 PM » by homeschooling madre
"In one study, published recently in the British Medical Journal, a group of Swiss researchers showed how just one tablet of butterbur four times daily was as effective as a popular antihistamine drug in controlling symptoms of hay fever -- without the traditional symptom of drowsiness that sometimes occurs. In a second study, presented in March 2003 at the 60th annual meeting of the American Academy of Allergy, Asthma, and Immunology (AAAAI), a group of British researchers put their stamp of approval on butterbur's effectiveness in quelling symptoms of grass allergy."

I read about this in Prevention Magazine a few months ago.  I ordered it from E-Bay, not expecting anything to happen.  I have to report that I am totally off of any kind of medication.  I used to take Sudafed all day (since this is nearly impossible to buy anymore, unless you use the PE, which has too many side-effects, I was desperate to find a natural cure) plus half of an Alavert or Claritin when it got too bad, plus a prescription allergy nasal spray. 

I take a butterbur and a milkthistle 3 times a day, about 30-45 min. before a meal and it WORKS!  I do a warm salt water nasal rinse a few times a day too.  The stuff is expensive, but so worth it to be off of OTC meds.  The only negative is that after going off of the Sudafed, my metabolism apparently slowed down and I gained weight - out of nowhere, with no other changes in my lifestyle or habits.  I've started T-Tapping, but it doesn't seem to be going away...oh well!
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« Reply #75 on: June 28, 2007, 11:19:38 PM » by Lovn my boys
Two of my boys will sometimes start wheezing in the spring.  The youngest wheezed from 5 weeks til 18 mos despite the constant RX 'cocktails' he took.  Someone told me about ALJ from Nature's Sunshine.  The youngest took 10 drops every 2 hours for 3 days, then 3x day for a few days, then just morn/eve for a month or so.  After the second day, I heard no more wheezing.  By the end of the 2nd week, I took him off all his meds.  He is now 3 1/2 and has only needed albuterol 2x since then

So.... whenever one of my boys starts wheezing, I load them up on ALJ for a couple/few days and they are fine again.  Mine will take it off a spoon if it is refrigerated (kind of like a pungent molasses flavor), a friend mixes it in with a medicine cup full of OJ.  They also make capsules.   I always keep it on hand.

 
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  Re: Respiratory/Seasonal Allergies
« Reply #76 on: August 14, 2007, 06:57:50 PM » by ascataylor
My 4 month old DD has had a productive cough and pretty significant "junk" in her lungs for over almost 2 months (you can hear it with every breath).  I've taken her to the Dr 2 times (rare for me!!) just to make sure she didn't have Pneumonia or something severe like that.  He said it really seemed like maybe seasonal allergies or maybe allergies to something I'm eating (she's breast-fed only), and told me she has pretty significant post nasal drip which is probably why she's got the cough (the PND is irritating her throat).  He wasn't worried about anything else since she has no other symptoms and is 18.2 lbs already (definitely thriving!).  He suggested (not as a necessity, but just something I could do to help the PND irritation) to do a plain saline spray a few times a day to help clear her sinuses.  Any other thoughts?  Maybe some herbs I could take that would help her through my milk?  Or something else to add to the saline spray?  Thanks for your insights!
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« Reply #77 on: August 16, 2007, 11:38:31 AM » by healthybratt

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« Reply #78 on: August 22, 2007, 11:43:40 AM » by healthybratt

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« Reply #79 on: September 18, 2007, 02:49:20 PM » by Jessarie
Hello!

I'm asking for help with treating my husband's eye allergies.  They've been bothering him for a few years now spring thru fall.  I'm guessing that since they haven't always been a problem, he is probably due for some sort of cleanse, which I know he will resist right now since he just started a new, intense job.  I wouldn't want to in his situation, either!  So I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions in the meantime.

He used to use steroid eye drops (yikes!) before we were married, but his prescription has run out.  The other day he was saying he wished he had them again, the "goop" is so bad.  He gets really annoying cloudy goop in his eye, and his contact rolls around and doesn't stay put.  He ordinarily would be wearing his glasses instead, but our 1 yr old tipped them off his face last weekend and they cracked right in the middle of the nosepiece and are unusable. 

I wondered if there's a way to make a weak garlic tea and put drops in his eyes?  My mom has used garlic tea on her eyelid before, but never in her eye and we're not sure how bad that could be.  I'm thinking not as bad as a steroid  Undecided, but I don't want to do anything damaging - it is his eye after all! 

I've read the suggestions about taking nettle, garlic, echinacea, etc and those are all good.  He really hates swallowing pills, but he's been taking freeze-dried nettle and eyebright (not every day, he sometimes forgets) over the summer. 

Any suggestions you have would be wonderful.  He loves milk and we are currently drinking organic milk till we find local raw (we just moved).  I will easily talk him into eating honey every night.  Lucky duck!

Thanks for your help.

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« Reply #80 on: September 18, 2007, 03:52:12 PM » by SagorFamily1611
I would recommend using this herbal comb. from Dr. Christopher.

http://www.herballegacy.org/Herbal_Eyebright.html

You can buy it here: http://www.herbshopconnection.com/catalog/Herbal-Combinations/Herbal-Eyebright-Extract-1-oz/
It is slightly expensive, but it lasts for a REALLY long time,
I used it on my kittens eyes, they were all goupy and really nasty, swelling up and closing on her and in a 2 weeks of non regular applications it was cleared up and she was fine.
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« Reply #81 on: September 19, 2007, 08:42:09 AM » by Jessarie
Thank you for your idea!  Does anyone know where to get an eyecup?
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« Reply #82 on: September 19, 2007, 08:49:01 AM » by ladyhen
I would start by looking at a drugstore or pharmacy.
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« Reply #83 on: September 19, 2007, 01:07:00 PM » by SagorFamily1611
I think even Wal-mart has cheap plastic ones, also the herb connection sells glass ones here. Right now I have a cheap plastic one, and I really miss the glass one we used to have but the store that sold them in our town back when I was looking for them wanted $8!!!!
http://www.herbshopconnection.com/catalog/Specialty/Glass-Eye-Cup-1-ct/
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« Reply #84 on: April 25, 2008, 03:38:25 PM » by ktalbott
I have heard RAVE reviews from a few friends about this stuff: Perimine

The most inexpensive place I have found it is: http://www.meta-ehealth.com/  It's $20 a 60 count bottle, plus $5.95 shipping (on any sized order).  You are supposed to take 2 to 4 tablets a day.

I just made a purchase and will let you know if it works.  My husband has Horrible allergies in the spring.  I'm hoping it will work, then I can give back the lawn mowing duties  Grin, which are fine except when you are 8 months pregnant.

I just want to update on my above post.

My husband didn't want to bother with Perimine last year because I purchased it in the middle of allergy season and he didn't want to stop taking his Claritine and be miserable. (I don't blame him!)

I pulled it out of the cupboard a few weeks ago and he said he would give me two weeks and if it didn't help him he was going back to the Claritine.

It's been almost a month now and he hasn't had to touch the Claritine!!!  He takes one pill in the morning and one in the evening and that's all.  I'm very happy with the results.  There has been very little sniffling and no scratchy throats in our house this season.

(I think my hubby is allergic to tree pollen and grasses.  He has never been tested though.) 

The link I posted no longer works, so maybe if you google for it you can find a good price elsewhere. I'm sure it won't work the same for everyone, but I would encourage you to give it a try. 


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« Reply #85 on: April 26, 2008, 09:15:03 AM » by homeschooling madre
I did a search for this and saw that the main ingredient is perilla seed.  When I searched on www.amazon.com & www.iherb.com I found some items made with perilla oil that are cheaper - wonder if that would have the same effects? 
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« Reply #86 on: April 07, 2009, 10:10:03 PM » by jaemom
The last time I had problems with allergies was when I was 9 months pregnant....two years ago. I ended up with a severe sinus infection and on antibiotics just a week or two before I had the baby.  I'm pregnant again (14 weeks) and my eyes are watering and my throat is scratchy, but not really having any drainage or other sinus symptoms....But I didn't have them last time either until I had a full blown infection.  I didn't sleep very well last night and I'm exhausted, so that maybe the reason for the watery eyes, but with the scratchy throat, I'm nervous.  My diet has changed for the better since being pregnant...little sugar and sweets, unless it's fruit, and minimal processed food.  I do NOT want to end up on antibiotics again. I have grapefruit seed extract and eucalyptus, lavender, tea tree, and orange oil on hand.  I also have Berry Well and raw honey.  Any suggestions to help?  Unless I can get hubby to go by the HFS, I don't see being able to pick up anything else.  Also I need to know what is safe during pregnancy.  I think i'll take the Berry Well and put some Eucalyptus oil on my pillow tonight.  I'll check back in the morning and see if anyone has any other suggestions.  I'm praying I just need a good nights sleep!  TIA

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« Reply #87 on: April 08, 2009, 03:29:49 PM » by tynnille
GARLIC. Take a clove of garlic (smaller one) crush with the back of a spoon and swallow like a pill (this just breaks the outer seal making it possible for your body to use it. Make sure ot remove the papery case first. Take this three times a day and it will stave off any infections. Your farts may smell like garlic and it iwll help if you have any constipation issues as well. Also, add extra Vit. C, if you have any.
Hope this helps...actually, I need to be doing this since the pollen count is very high around here tight now (SW Florida)
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« Reply #88 on: April 09, 2009, 06:35:05 AM » by jaemom
Hubby went to the HFS and got some Xlear for me and it works great!  I also started putting chamomile tea bags on my eye yesterday, and I finally got some sleep last night.  I'm going to continue both today since my symptoms haven't totally disappeared yet, but just wanted to update. 
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« Reply #89 on: May 15, 2009, 07:37:09 AM » by blackbird
thanks for this info.  needed to know what not to do.  interesting that my food and seasonal allergies are probably related to one another.  I have been waking up really congested and not sure what direction to go in.  want to take something before I go to bed so I can wake up able to breathe. 
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