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Re: GAPS Method / Diet [Gut and Psychology Syndrome]
« Reply #120 on: January 09, 2009, 07:14:42 PM » by firecattx

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Quote from: firecattx on January 09, 2009, 02:49:17 PM

Pls help me troubleshoot what's going on with my 3yo ds. He has been on GAPS for 5 weeks. I know he has leaky gut and the ped. gastro suspects Crohns (I don't, long story). Anyway, his stools are great!! He has always had eczema mild/moderate but 2 weeks ago (3 weeks into the diet) he broke out all over his body (no exaggeration). His face is awful! Every part of him (except stomach/chest) is angry red, extremely itchy, broken skin etc.
So, is this die-off? What else could it be? We haven't added any new foods or supplements......I have tried sooo many things to heal the eczema (different thread) the past 2 weeks and it is not getting much better. Any thoughts?

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Re: GAPS Method / Diet [Gut and Psychology Syndrome]
« Reply #121 on: January 09, 2009, 08:41:54 PM » by boysmama

firecattx, which step in GAPS are you (child) on?

If intro are you on the supplements?
Are you able to use grassfed bones for the stock?
Do you suspect and allergy to anything he is currently eating?

I recently was reading how a baby had fiery red cracking skin and turned out to be extremely allergic to any soy, even soy fed meat, eggs, and milk... not saying this is the case for y'all...

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Re: GAPS Method / Diet [Gut and Psychology Syndrome]
« Reply #122 on: January 10, 2009, 02:38:25 AM » by mykidsmom

Quote from: Pastorswife2B on January 09, 2009, 01:06:05 PM

Patti,

The whole fat absorption issue is one of the reasons to start with the GAPS intro diet since it restricts you to broth and veggies (not allot of fat in those). The broth specifically has the nutritional elements mixed together to allow the gut lining to start repairing itself. Then in the program the first fat added back in is Ghee which is easiest to absorb and has the fats that help to repair the linings of the gut in the most usuable form. I think this is why some people who are more 'critical' have to stay on the intro diet for so much longer because they have to repair more of their lining and even the process for making the lining while on stuff that they can actually digest. Just my 2 cents Wink

-Heather

Yep. I know. I just thought how he explained it really reinforced the whole GAPS theory really well. As for us, I'm struggling with even doing GAPS now. Since we now know what's wrong and are seeing great results fixing it I keep wondering if it's worth putting everyone through the whole diet. If I can fix it this way, will we benefit any more from the GAPS diet? I'm just sort of thinking "out loud." It's something I've been going back and forth with this past few days.

patti

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Re: GAPS Method / Diet [Gut and Psychology Syndrome]
« Reply #123 on: January 10, 2009, 02:43:17 AM » by mykidsmom

Quote from: abbilynn on January 09, 2009, 02:17:02 PM

So if the ox bile will help and it may take awhile to heal, will you eventually be able to not need the ox bile? Does it just digest the fats or does it actually aid in the healing process?

abbilynn

Yes. The ND said that between 4 and 12 mos. his body would begin doing fine without the ox bile. It does both. It aids in digestion/absorption of fats and helps heal the intestines because the food isn't sitting there causing damage to the intestines. Better fat absorption would help heal the lining of the intestines which would help fix leaky gut. It's so amazing. Every little thing is interconnected to everything else.

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Re: GAPS Method / Diet [Gut and Psychology Syndrome]
« Reply #124 on: January 10, 2009, 02:49:56 AM » by mykidsmom

Quote from: firecattx on January 09, 2009, 02:49:17 PM

The bad eczema can be die off. When my son started healing his gut he went through a HORRIBLE case of eczema. But I was able to heal it using the Burts Bees stuff I posted about in the eczema thread. However, it is very possible your son is allergic to something your feeding him in GAPS. Have you looked at all the suspects? Eggs, gluten, soy, dairy, nuts, etc? I know GAPS eliminates some of those but I haven't been through the whole book yet so I don't know which ones. If the eczema is not responding to treatment then I would look to an allergy that is really badly aggravating his body. Have you read through the eczema thread? I posted a few things that worked very well for my DS. His eczema was usually gone within a week or at the very least just dark patches of skin but no itchy, dry skin left. Right now he really likes the Dr. Schulze's Jojoba and Tea Tree Oil ointment and it works very well on his eczema. Usually overnight it's half of what it was the night before. For comfort, dead sea salt baths work well also.

I will say this - I do not agree with the notion that a person should not be on probiotics in the beginning of GAPS. The issue is the probiotics that get used HAVE to be very very strong. Right now we're using a probiotic that has 450 MILLION bugs per serving. So the boy is getting 900 million bacteria a day. So if someone is taking a PB-8 or something like that, it's not going to help. Gut healing requires a much much stronger probiotic. Like I said, in this sense, I disagree with the GAPS book.

hth

patti

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Re: GAPS Method / Diet [Gut and Psychology Syndrome]
« Reply #125 on: January 10, 2009, 10:52:46 AM » by Pastorswife2B

I think Patti is right on with her thoughts on either die off or an allergy.

If it is die off what you might suspect is that he has a very invasive virus or bacteria and the GAPS protocol is killing it slowly and extending the die off. If you suspect this (other signs of die off would be very bad body odor, bad breath, frequent urination, a tendency to headaches in addition to the eczema) I might try adding a broad spectrum bug killer like Oregenol or Olive leaf, I recommend them because they are affective against virus, bacteria, and yeast.

If you think an allergy is more likely I know of several leaky gut/allergy children that are sensative to Garlic and Onions and anything in that family, and I know the GAPS diet includes quite a bit of garlic. You might try elliminating them first for a few days and see if things improve. I've also heard of carrots being an issue for some, just some ideas to start with Undecided

. I hope it helps!

-Heather

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Re: GAPS Method / Diet [Gut and Psychology Syndrome]
« Reply #126 on: January 10, 2009, 01:40:40 PM » by firecattx

I don't think it is a food allergy. He has been IgG tested and I have removed almost 30 foods (Garlic is one of them). He is on a very limited, bland diet even though we are on week 5 of GAPS. He hasn't had anything new so I don't know why he would all of a sudden develop head to toe horrendous eczema. If it is die-off, what can I do? I have been doing epsom salt/baking soda baths. I can't use BB banana cream (allergy). I made some homemade shea butter cream that seems to help but not a lot. He itches sooo badly. How long does die-off usually last??

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Re: GAPS Method / Diet [Gut and Psychology Syndrome]
« Reply #127 on: January 10, 2009, 02:21:28 PM » by Whiterock

From a day or two to about a week, in most cases. Toxin absorbing herbs and such, will help, if you can get them to move out of the body and not just sit in the intestines so that the toxins are reabsorbed. So get the bowels moving.

WR

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Re: GAPS Method / Diet [Gut and Psychology Syndrome]
« Reply #128 on: January 10, 2009, 02:33:51 PM » by Whiterock

Oh, and I've been meaning to ask Patti... is there anything special about the enzymes your boy is taking, other than ox bile? 'Cause Super Enzymes from NOW (Digestive Enzyme from Beeyoutiful) have ox bile in them and I already have those.

Here's the info on Super Enzymes for comparison:

Serving Size:1 Tablet
Servings per Container: 180

Betaine ....200mg
Pancreatin 4X ....200mg
Papain ....50mg
Cellulase ....10mg
Ox Bile Extract ....100mg
Pepsin Enzymes ....50mg
Bromelain ....50mg
Papaya Powder ....45mg
Bromelain ....45mg

Other Ingredients: Calcium Carbonate, Stearic Acid, Croscarmellose Sodium and Magnesium Stearate.

As a dietary supplement, take 1 tablet, with each meal. Pancreatin and Ox Bile are enteric coated and provide the release of these ingredients in the intestines. The other enzyme ingredients are not enteric coated and dissolve in the stomach.

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Re: GAPS Method / Diet [Gut and Psychology Syndrome]
« Reply #129 on: January 10, 2009, 02:44:35 PM » by mykidsmom

Quote from: firecattx on January 10, 2009, 01:40:40 PM

Use the Dr. Schulze Jojoba and Tea Tree Oil ointment. It will work well. Your child sounds much like my DS. It ended up he had two bacterias in his gut and he was only getting worse food wise because of them. Oregano started to kill off my son's bacteria so you might try it and see if you get stinky stinky poops and feeling sick. If he does react you could probably assume he's got bad bacteria in his gut and start to treat for it. When we treated my son within 5 days he started eating everything he'd been allergic to the last 6 months. Right now we are giving him berbine (Candibactin by metagenics - this kills bacteria), powdered quarcetin (1/2 tsp. 4 times a day in applesauce), 1/2 sachet of VSI probiotic mixed with the quarcetin and applesauce 4 times a day). Bio Gest by Thorne (2 caps with every meal). No cod liver oil or excess oils. This regimine has healed his gut tremendously. I don't know if any of it will help you. But maybe it will. The berbine caused a massive die off within 24hrs and he had yellow runny stools for a day or two. After that, he's just gotten better and better with each passing day.

hth

patti

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Re: GAPS Method / Diet [Gut and Psychology Syndrome]
« Reply #130 on: January 10, 2009, 02:48:36 PM » by mykidsmom

Quote from: Whiterock on January 10, 2009, 02:33:51 PM

Hi WR,

I honestly don't know. Here's what's in the Bio Gest:

Betaine Hydrochloride 240mg
Glutamic Acid Hydrochloride 240mg
Ox bile concentrate 40mg
pure pancreatin 70mg
pure pepsin (1:16000 min.) 35mg.

This says 1 capsule is a serving but my DS is on 2 caps per meal depending on how much protein/fat are in a meal. Otherwise, we give him one (like for pancakes and such).

These look pretty different to me. I know the betaine has something to do with healing the gut but I can't honestly tell you what it does. I'll have to look it up.

patti

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Re: GAPS Method / Diet [Gut and Psychology Syndrome]
« Reply #131 on: January 16, 2009, 12:46:40 AM » by firecattx

Ok GAPS mamas, please help! My 3yo ds is still breaking out all over. We are on week 6 of the diet. I still don't know if this is major eczema or die off? It is not responding to ANY eczema treatments (creams, epsom salt baths, DSS baths, TTO/Jojoba etc. He is miserable. It can't be a food allergy, I have removed all IgE and IgG positive foods. Take a look at this pic of his leg and see what you think.....

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« Reply #132 on: January 16, 2009, 07:41:10 AM » by Kitty

Firecattx-

Again, you have my utmost sympathy. Cry

That looks unbearable for anyone, let alone a young boy and his Mama. Sad

As far as what it is...the only curious thing I've noted lately is that I stopped all supplements and my skin has not worsened (and in some ways has improved). I've not been eating GAPS protocol (yet), and I'm wondering if I have stopped detoxing and that's why my skin is improving. Huh

All that that to say, it most certainly could be die-off.

Someone of the Yahoo! groups had an awful itching rash recently and finally went to the Dr. He gave her Benadryl, I think, b/c it was pretty intense...you could look up her post...I think it's Jodah.

Here's something I was sent this week from Mercola on eczema. I know it's lengthy and some of it irrelevant for this thread, but I wanted the whole context:

Eczema (atopic dermatitis), and the closely associated psoriasis, are two very common skin problems.

Both eczema and psoriasis are potentially allergic conditions that can be triggered by environmental factors and dozens of other external irritants like:

*Laundry detergent
*Soaps
*Household chemicals
*Workplace chemicals
*Perfumes
*Animal dander
*Metals (such as nickel in jewelry)

While psoriasis is most often linked with external allergic triggers, eczema is often caused by food allergies.

However, although they're different diseases and have varying triggers, their treatments have many commonalities. .

How to Effectively and Inexpensively Treat Eczema and Psoriasis

Eczema is "the itch that rashes," meaning, there's really no rash until you start scratching the itchy area. Hence, the first thing you need to do is to stop scratching!

Addressing the itch -- As anyone with eczema will attest, this is easier said than done. But fortunately, there IS a really simple, inexpensive way to relieve the itch: Simply put a saltwater compress over the itchy area.

You'll want to use a high quality natural salt, such as Himalayan salt. Simply make a solution with warm water, soak a compress, and apply the compress over the affected area. You'll be amazed to find that the itching will virtually disappear!

Another method that can be helpful for reducing or stopping the itch is EFT.

Proper skin hydration – When working with any type of skin condition, you need to make sure your skin is optimally hydrated. Skin creams are rarely the answer here, but rather you'll want to hydrate your skin from the inside out by consuming high quality, animal-based omega-3 fats in your diet.

Your best sources for omega-3s are animal-based fats like krill oil or fish oil. I also find it helpful to include a bit of gamma linoleic acid, typically in the form of primrose oil, as this works remarkably well for eczema. Products like "krill for women" are good for both sexes for this condition as they have both fatty acids.

Plant-based omega-3s like flax and hemp seed, although decent omega-3 sources in general, will not provide the clinical benefit you need to reduce inflammation and swelling in your skin.

Secondly, you'll want to reduce your exposure to harsh soaps and drying out your skin with excessive bathing. Use a very mild soap when you cleanse your skin, especially in the winter to avoid stripping your skin of moisture.

Taking care of your gut = Taking care of your skin – Many don't realize this, but the health and quality of your skin is strongly linked to the health of your gut. I recommend taking a high quality probiotic to ensure optimal digestive health. Fermented foods can be used as well, but are neither as common nor as easy to use.

Diet and skin quality – Food allergies play an enormous role in eczema. In my experience, the most common offending agent is wheat, or more specifically, gluten. Avoiding wheat and other gluten-containing grains is therefore a wise first step.

If you were to visit my clinic outside of Chicago as a new patient, one of the first steps we would advise would be to go on a gluten-free diet for a number of weeks and carefully observe any health improvements. This is an enormously common problem and many of our patients are surprised to find how much improvement they actually achieve from this step.

Avoiding grains will also reduce the amount of sugar in your system, which will normalize your insulin levels and reduce any and all inflammatory conditions you may have, including inflammation in your skin.

Other common allergens include milk and eggs. I recommend you do an elimination trial with these foods as well. You should see some improvement in about a week, sometimes less, after eliminating them from your diet if either of them is causing you trouble.

Basking in the sun – Vitamin D in the form of sun exposure is your best friend when dealing with either of these skin conditions, but it's especially helpful for psoriasis.

I produced a one-hour lecture that explains the health benefits of this long under-appreciated vitamin, so if you haven't seen it already, I strongly recommend you take the time to watch this free video now.

Ideally, you'll want to get your vitamin D from appropriate sunshine exposure because UVB radiation on your skin will not only metabolize vitamin D, but will also help restore ideal skin function. High amounts of UVB exposure directly on affected skin – but not so much to cause sunburn! – will greatly improve the quality of your skin.

However, if you can't get sufficient amounts of sun during the winter months, a high quality safe tanning bed can suffice. A safe tanning bed will provide the optimized forms of UVA and UVB wavelengths, without dangerous magnetic skin balance.

Why Conventional Treatments Fail

You don't have to use expensive, dangerous medicines to treat eczema or psoriasis!

Steroid creams especially, are clearly something you'll want to avoid, because although they work initially, you will tend to rapidly develop tolerance to them. These creams contain synthetic steroids, which are absorbed into your skin, and can wreak serious havoc with your adrenal system.

So please, avoid steroid creams and other potentially dangerous medications for these skin conditions and use these natural methods instead. You'll find they work almost all the time, especially if you diligently apply them.

Praying.

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Re: GAPS Method / Diet [Gut and Psychology Syndrome]
« Reply #133 on: January 16, 2009, 12:11:36 PM » by mykidsmom

Quote from: firecattx on January 16, 2009, 12:46:40 AM

C-

This actually looks like my son's does when he's in the healing stages. For comfort from the itching the thing that helped him most was the salt water baths. He found that very comforting. We would do a salt bath then pat his skin (not rub it dry). After that I'd do the TTO/Jojoba. With eczema this bad it can take weeks for it to clear up. But it sounds like you're saying he's still breaking out? It could still be die off but I've never seen die off like that so I don't know. I would stay in the early stages of GAPS for quite some time to make sure you're not introducing something he's allergic to. AND, when my DS was at his worst with allergies, he was literally becoming allergic to something new every 3 days. So if you had the test done months ago, it could be completely invalid today. Not that you should redo it, but that you should consider what we've discussed before and that is bacteria in his gut could be causing more allergies and once you deal with bacteria the allergies will go away (at least the ones that popped up recently).

Other then DDS baths I don't know what else to tell you. I think stay focused on the gut, bacteria, and making sure he's getting the VSL and candibactin daily.

OT wonderings.......... my DS's eczema was also on only the back of his legs. I wonder what's up with that? Huh

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Re: GAPS Method / Diet [Gut and Psychology Syndrome]
« Reply #134 on: January 19, 2009, 11:20:15 AM » by Whiterock

I have a question for y'all.... When you're doing the intro diet, what can we put in the soup? Can you use any of the veggies on the list of allowed foods? Or do you have to start out with only certain things and then work your way up to being able to other stuff? Without the book, how do you know what and when? Anyone got the book they want to loan me? LOL.

WR

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Re: GAPS Method / Diet [Gut and Psychology Syndrome]
« Reply #135 on: January 19, 2009, 11:52:09 AM » by Kitty

Quote from: Whiterock on January 19, 2009, 11:20:15 AM

WR--
From the Yahoo! group (I need to get started myself, but waiting... Roll Eyes

):

No, there is not a list of what will be fine for every person in Stage 1 of intro. Because it's different for everyone, that would be impossible.

What is okay are GAPS-veggies that your own, individual body can handle. If you are very concerned/nervous, do this:

1. Make a broth with celery and onions included. Strain these out. When making this broth into a soup, add carrots and zucchini. Most people are fine with these, but not everyone. If your body has trouble with this, try another batch without carrots.

2. If your body is fine, every two days add one new vegetable:

onions, carrots, broccoli florets, leeks, cauliflower florets, squash, pumpkin, beets, any other veggie (not legume) from the GAPS list. Different people have reacted (usually with gas) to carrots, peas, squashes, broccoli, cauliflower.

3. If your body rebels, go back one step then, when ready to progress again, skip the problematic veggie.

I am not sure about tomatoes. Thus, I skipped them for our first several weeks.

Greens and olive oil come in later on the intro. It's a good idea to read the entire intro before starting. You will need it on hand to progress through, in any case. It's at: http://gapsguide.wordpress.com/printables/

AND (another reply on different thread, same person)

Any GAPS-friendly veggie can be eaten on intro. One should simply skip the fibrous parts (broccoli and cauliflower stalks, etc).

Broccoli and onions can both be gas-forming. You could rotate those out for now and use different veggies. Alternatively, two things that work for me: sautee the chopped onions in fat for a good ten minutes before adding anything else. If you've been including them, leave off the broccoli stalks. My son's been on SCD for one year; I've been strict SCD for 7 months - I *just* started including broccoli stalks last week. My son pooped four times in one day (generally unheard of) and I had gas, gas, gas.

Constipation is common in early intro. Within our files is one for constipation. Lots of ideas.

When do you think you'll start? Grin

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Re: GAPS Method / Diet [Gut and Psychology Syndrome]
« Reply #136 on: January 19, 2009, 12:20:59 PM » by boysmama

WR, as I've read several places the Intro diet is more art than formula.

Individuals vary so much. I considered the glycemic index of a veggie, fiber content, and possible allergens when deciding what to try next. And what I had on hand or were inexpensive. Wink

Veggies I started with were green beans pureed, young summer squashes or older ones peeled and seeded, and pumpkin.
Green peas and carrots soon worked well for us and tiny amounts of onion. Next turnips and broccoli and tomatoes. ( I had to try tomatoes a couple times before dh could handle them.)
Cabbage, celery, peppers, cauliflower and green leafy stuff like kale took awhile for dh to handle without gas.

Herbs like basil, oregano, coriander, cilantro, dill, tiny amounts of onion and garlic, bl. pepper, cayenne... all seemed to be fine right away. The seasonings and varying them is what really helped keep the soup palatable.

And for what it is worth... I didn't feel like we struggled with constipation so much as just simply not having the bulk to move through the digestive tract. There is so much fluid in soup and with good digestion the amount of waste is greatly reduced. Also reducing the amount of undigestible fiber... Of course, with all we had done before trying GAPS I don't believe any of us were backed up or had buildup on the colon walls.

Several of the allowed foods I chose not to use at all. For example, peanuts. I felt like there was so much evidence of them being detrimental over all that it wasn't worth trying them. Not that we won't ever eat them again...

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« Reply #137 on: January 19, 2009, 12:23:50 PM » by beppyjo

I am considering this diet for my family after I get the book from the library (if I can) and was wondering if anyone could tell me if they felt like their grocery bill was a lot higher on this? It seemed like it would be if I were trying to get all grass fed meat for the broths and organic veggies.......... I assume that it would be best to get organic/grass fed since you are trying to heal the gut Undecided

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« Reply #138 on: January 19, 2009, 02:01:38 PM » by Whiterock

I'm hoping my grocery bill will go down. We are very blessed to have a source for grass-fed, organically raised beef for a really good price so that might be different than a lot of peoples situations. But I'm thinking that there will be A LOT of things that I won't be buying that I normally would. If I pare my grocery list down to meat and a few kinds of veggies at a time, then we should save money -even if everything is organic.

I hope I'm not deluding myself. LOL!

WR

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Re: GAPS Method / Diet [Gut and Psychology Syndrome]
« Reply #139 on: January 19, 2009, 03:14:34 PM » by Kitty

Some people on the Yahoo! group reported that after a transition of eating a LOT of food for the first couple of weeks, the appetites stabilized. They attributed it to finally being nourished...

I know that eating GF can be pricey (and the milk, too). I am expecting the cost to actually be about the same or less. We have a great source for the meat, too.

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Re: GAPS Method / Diet [Gut and Psychology Syndrome]
« Reply #140 on: February 12, 2009, 05:56:48 PM » by WellTellMommy

My local food store does not always carry a good variety of organic but once every two weeks we go to the city and get a great variety how would I use this opportunity yet make the food last two weeks before going bad?

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« Reply #141 on: February 12, 2009, 07:26:07 PM » by boysmama

Quote from: WellTellMommy on February 12, 2009, 05:56:48 PM

What type of things? Meats/milk can be frozen and eggs/cheese refridgerated. Veggies can be frozen, refridgerated or fermented for longer storage. We have already done salad types for one week while fresh and saved other veggies for the following weeks. Same way on fruits...berries and such get eaten the first week and others later.

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« Reply #142 on: February 12, 2009, 08:29:39 PM » by WellTellMommy

Is ttu / generic equivilant strong enough probiotic or is there a probiotic that is cost effective that is stronger that would be appropriate?
Is it mandatory to buy bio-kult as the Gaps diet suggests?

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« Reply #143 on: February 12, 2009, 10:42:28 PM » by mykidsmom

Quote from: WellTellMommy on February 12, 2009, 08:29:39 PM

I would say no to the TTU/generic. We have used both in this house. TTU and PB8 and neither one was strong enough to fix my kid's guts. We literally took them for years. We ended up having to go with VSL#3 which is $145 a month (per kid!) Shocked

in order to make any headway. Now that we have actually made some headway, we will be going back to a more basic probiotic. It took us 4 months to get here and we'll probably use it for 2 more months. So, my experience has been that the regular stuff just doesn't cut it. I know the VSL has 9 trillion organisms (yes, trillion), in what my son is taking per day. I don't know anything else that come close to that. I don't know about what she recommends. I can only attest that the weaker ones didn't work for us.

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Re: GAPS Method / Diet [Gut and Psychology Syndrome]
« Reply #144 on: February 12, 2009, 11:06:49 PM » by WellTellMommy

Patti, I kind of thought you would say that with all that you've been through but I know that our case is also not as severe as yours, can you or anyone suggest one stronger if necessary for equal price range?

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« Reply #145 on: February 12, 2009, 11:26:24 PM » by Whiterock

Maybe this is an option....
http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,18993.0.html

WR

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Re: GAPS Method / Diet [Gut and Psychology Syndrome]
« Reply #146 on: March 04, 2009, 03:47:30 PM » by mamaoffour

Just wanted to let everyone know that a new GAPS Diet Guide is available now. It is a new book that will explain the stages in more detail, has a FAQ section, sucess stories, food reactions, and more. I got this from the yahoo gaps diet group. I think I may need this book too!!

http://gapsguide.com/book/

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« Reply #147 on: March 08, 2009, 02:24:42 PM » by mamaoffour

Just wanted to post how well my son is doing on this diet. He has been on this diet for 6 months with wonderful progress. I know this diet will be the turning point to dropping his Asperger's diagnosis. It's amazing what their bodies can do themselves when supplied with nourishing foods!!

Right now we are still restricting nuts, fruits, and honey because my son's gut was so messed up. I'm so excited because he is finally being able to tolerate supplements and herbs!! Hooray!! This is huge for us!! Also, one of the biggest challenges that we have overcome so far are no more leg cramps or seizures!! This is huge for us!! We have been to numerous doctors with no help, DR. Mom to the rescue!! I'm giving my self a pat on my back because I stuck with it even though we have had HUGE regression while on this diet. We just got done with a regression that lasted a whole month. Be prepared ladies, the fifth month has by far been the longest regression. Now, we are seeing all the gains again that we saw so early on: better eye contact, much calmer, less stimming, more appropriate conversations, recognizing social cues easier, more focus, less echolalia, able to break routines more often, less compulsiveness, better moods, better digestion, better absorption, and food allergies and inhalant allergies seem to be healing. This is huge for us!! I will be writing a book when his recovery happens........Yes, I'm that confident that it will happen, it's just a matter of time.

Oh by the way, part of our story will be in the new gaps book called "Gaps Diet Guide". I can't wait to get my hands on a copy.

Anyway, just wanted to send some encouragement your way if you are doing this diet with a with one of your children. It really works!!

Just take a look at the Sensory Integration Thread to see how far we have come. It's truly amazing!!

God Bless,
Misty

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Re: GAPS Method / Diet [Gut and Psychology Syndrome]
« Reply #148 on: March 08, 2009, 06:57:23 PM » by mykidsmom

Misty,

Yay! I am soooo glad to hear this is working. I have not been able to take the plunge into this diet with my family yet but we so would benefit from it. I'm just over half way through the book and when I see what is not allowed I panic because it's the only stuff my son can eat! So I'm not there yet. Perhaps by the end of the book. Good job for sticking with this for so long. It's not an easy diet to do!

patti

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Re: GAPS Method / Diet [Gut and Psychology Syndrome]
« Reply #149 on: March 08, 2009, 10:12:19 PM » by firecattx

Misty,
How long do you plan to stay on the GAPS diet? How long will you continue to restrict nuts? Did he have a bad reaction to nuts or you just took them out proactively?

Cathy

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