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How to Avoid Food Intolerances/Allergies in Childhood
« on: April 18, 2006, 08:55:00 PM »
I've been reading so many post about mom's who have kids with asthma, allergies, ecsema, etc and I feel so blessed that my children are all very healthy and for the most part always have been, but I can't help but wonder why???

I didn't get into the "health groove" until recently and I only managed to nurse my babies for a couple of weeks each due to health concerns of my own.  For many years, I've even felt a bit guilty because I never pushed the government recommended diets (food groups and such).  I just kind of fed my kids what I had to feed them and hoped for the best.  I never even pushed milk.  I let them drink water and kool-aid (BAD BAD BAD).  :-\

So I got to thinking, maybe it's more about what mama eats while she's nursing.  Allergies seem to result from exposing babies to certain things too young and before their digestive systems can handle them.  Since I did not nurse for long periods of time, I didn't pass on to my kids any of my unhealthy foods.  Don't get me wrong, I am not recommending that nursing is bad for your kids, I'm just surmising that if you don't expose your kids to bad stuff too early, they might be able to ride it out better later on.  This would mean, mama would have to watch what she's eating more than everyone else in the family.

I haven't come to any conclusions, just thinking out loud and very interested in your thoughts.  I can't have any more babies, but there are many who still can and will and might benefit from your input.
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2006, 09:41:46 PM »
When my 5 1/2 year old was a baby, the "norm" for indroducing solids was at 4 mos.  Now I have read that the earlier you introduce something, the more of a chance there is for them to be allergic to it.  So perhaps another piece of the puzzle is not introducing foods so early.  I kinda doubt the breastmilk would have allergy causing things in it, unless maybe soy?  I dunno. 
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2006, 01:18:24 AM »
i believe breastmilk has proteins from everything you eat in it.  i was told by my favorite dr. that you have the food allergy because your body can't digest it.  i believe since they developed over time you can "undevelop" them.  you just have to get your body to begin digesting those foods again.  my course of action right now is to have acupuncture in conjunction with using primal defense from Garden of Life.  i am hopeful that it can be done and may end up doing the Master Cleanse at some point to aid the process.  my kids have develped some of the same allergies to a lesser degree and i plan on treating them after i have come to the bottom of it with myself.  my babies have been very fussy (screamy) while breastfed.  i was also told that if i had a reaction to something, he would too.  my last one screamed even if i didn't eat my allergens.  as for introducing foods too early, most times we moms don't start with the most common allergens like  dairy, soy, etc. in baby food.  this time rice cereal made him scream so i started with veggies, but they just made things more complicated and since they didn't help him sleep i just waited.  he didn't really want them til 8 mo.    also, with nursing, not everyone develops the same allergies and a person couldn't stay away from all known allergens.......torture!!  interesting topic!  wondering what everyone else thinks!   ;D
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2006, 02:30:18 AM »
Nursing and allergies- that is the subject, right? My children's food allergies are a direct result (I believe for several reasons) of immune dysfunction passed down by my husband's family. Allergies are not normal, and have increased manyfold with all the other auto-immune diseases that are becoming more prevalent. The human immune system has taken a huge hit in our country in the last couple generations. I personally think breastmilk is the best food we could be giving our babies because it has so many natural antibodies and perfect nutrition for little humans. My milk was/is all my babies can digest well for the first 8 months of their lives. I had to go off cow milk (even raw) when nursing them when they were little. My second child has such sensitive digestion, that one taste of his allergens will make him unbearable to live with for days. I have studied nutrition under a teacher familiar with Chinese medicine, and the Chinese have studied the body, digestion, and symbiotic relationships for millennia. An allergy can be for many reasons, having to do with many systems of the body, and can be treated different ways. (Avoidance vs homeopathy, etc...) I don't personally think we can do wrong by nursing our babies, and as far as what we moms eat, I would just "eat healthy", and avoid things I know might be an allergy problem (like cow milk is for my kids).  Just my opinion.
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2006, 02:56:35 AM »
hi Dara, i think you are right and it is possible for them to be hereditary.  mine were built up over time from childhood, but i don't believe i was born with them.  or i suppose it's possible. my sister has them also and was a very screaming baby.  back then they used to prescribe this "colic" medicine.  i think it had opiates in it or something!  :o  yikes!  anyway i think our mother never really realized we had digestive problems as kids.  but as we grew they continued to get worse and as adults we just couldn't put up with it anymore.  definitely the human immune system has taken a beating.  my mom used antibiotics as "normal" treatment for childhood illnesses and never tried to find other options. 
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Re: How to Avoid Food Intolerances/Allergies in Childhood
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2006, 04:41:49 AM »
you have the food allergy because your body can't digest it.

maybe this is why yeast is such an issue in this.  the cadida causes "leaky gut" which messes up digestion and allows the nutrients to directly into the bloodstread without being properly broken down and filtered.

more on leaky gut syndrome

All of these things are discussed in "Unravelling the Mysteries of Autism and Pervasive Disorder".  I think I need to read it again.
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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2006, 05:56:41 AM »
When my first son was diagnosed with life threatening food allergies, seasonal allergies and skin allergies, followed by my second and third having skin allergies I read and spoke to specialists like a mad woman because I was not willing to continue this trend.  What I found is this:
1.  Certain people are more prone to allergies.  This tendency is often inherited, although specific allergies are not.
2.  Pregnancy is the first and most overlooked time when a baby's body is exposed to substances resulting from the mother's diet.  If any one thing is ingested in a quantity too great or too fast for the baby's developing system to handle, an allergy can develop.  Thankfully, the mother's body does act as a filter so a single splurge on peanuts is not going to doom your baby forever.  Eating peanut butter every day on top of other foods with similar properties may increase the risk.
3.  Nursing does pass many things besides mysterious nourishment on to the infant and the baby's system is still developing during the early years after birth.  For this reason high allergy foods are usually not recommended in a child's diet until age 3 or so.  The earlier the exposure, the greater the chance that the body will be unable to tolerate the possible allergen.
   Unfortunately, common allergens are often really just common foods that are consumed in such quantities that they cannot be tolerated.  This is why Americans suffer mainly from peanut/nut, soy, dairy, wheat, etc.  Likewise, in Japan many develop allergies to rice, and in Puerto Rico fish is a common one.  Then again, some things just were never ideal for human consumption.  For instance, how many people can drink goat's milk but not cows?  (For exactly these reasons, among others, I believe that breastmilk from a healthy mommy is the best food for infants for a lot longer than the AAP recommends.)
   Allergies are tricky and I don't think anyone really knows everything yet.  But I think that patience and moderation are the keys to this as well.   Seems those words come up an awful lot!  Do you think the Lord is trying to teach us something here? ;)   ~L

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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2006, 06:24:52 AM »
Hi, I Re-titled this thread so it will be easier to find for people searching for certain topics.

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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2006, 06:04:28 PM »
Dara--just curious, what did you start to feed your baby at 8 mo.?  mine can eat all the fruit, veggies, but i was hoping to wean him soon if possible and not sure where to start w/ alternatives to breastmilk.  don't want to do soy really and was thinking about non homogenized cow milk.  raw is no where around here.  any suggestions anyone? thanks!
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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2006, 06:10:13 PM »
Dara--just curious, what did you start to feed your baby at 8 mo.?  mine can eat all the fruit, veggies, but i was hoping to wean him soon if possible and not sure where to start w/ alternatives to breastmilk.  don't want to do soy really and was thinking about non homogenized cow milk.  raw is no where around here.  any suggestions anyone? thanks!

Your doc will tell you homo milk because baby needs the fat, but I switched my kids to skim.  If you find that baby really needs the fat, maybe you could spike his skim with real cream??? 
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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2006, 03:45:21 AM »
Thank you, Petrimama, for your allergy info!
Fivewiddletids, you asked what I am feeding my 8 month old. At 6 months I tried fruits and veggies, brown rice and oatmeal, blended. She got constipated from everything, except carrots, which came out looking just like they went in. So I stopped feeding her anything but cherios and an occassional graham cracker (she LOVES to eat!). Now that she is 8 months, I am retrying the carrots with success, a few cooked, blended whole grains (mostly rice, since Devin is allergic to oats), and for milk... she can handle goat milk if it's not too much- if that's all I gave her, she'd get plugged again. I'm not even going to try cow milk at her age, raw or otherwise, 'cause the others couldn't handle it. It is expensive, but I go to the health food store and buy canned, dry goat milk powder for my babies while weaning them. It is the same price as formula, and I feel more natural. Feeding kids with allergies is just sometimes more expensive. Sigh. We have a gluten free one now, and I feel I'm always behind on the cooking/baking, and poor Garrett hasn't had any school lately. Good thing it's spring. Anyway, hope that helps! Dara
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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2006, 04:03:34 AM »
thanks Dara!  i think i'll make a big pot of rice today and blend it and see how that goes.  everything seems to plug him up too.  i'm going to avoid baby food today to get him unplugged.  i'm thinking maybe weaning is out of the question and i'll be taking him to chicago.  my hubby will be sad.   :(

i'm charged that it's spring too!  everything just is more fun now!  there are frogs to bring home and campfires to have--yeah! too bad hot dogs are so bad for ya! 
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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2006, 05:16:19 AM »
Wait! you didn't say anything about having to take your baby on a trip with your husband! Mine actually talked me into leaving all 3 of our kids with his mom while we took a business trip together (fancy sleeping through the night 5 nights in a row!). I left Nika for 5 days! I pumped ahead what I could (enough for one bottle a day of my milk), and here is the other bottles' mixture: 2.5 oz. goat milk (from powder), 2.5 oz. rice milk (not really nutritious, but good enough for temp.), a serving of children's probiotic powder, and 1/2 a capsule enzyme powder. She took it fine. Mom also gave her a tablespoon of slippery elm powder in rice milk (a bit runny) with a dap of maple syrup, instead of baby food, once in the afternoon. She was regular enough! She wanted to nurse 10 times the first day I was back (I only gave in 5-6 times  :), and didn't want me to put her down, but all was well. We all survived, and hubby felt loved  8).  If you have any questions, fire away.  Best Wishes!
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« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2006, 06:56:04 AM »
hi Dara!  wow that's great!  what is slippery elm and what does it do?  conner doesn't take a bottle, but i have him drinking white grape juice out of a cup.  (not much, but it's a start!)  my other issue is my mother will be gone and i have to come up with someone to keep 5 kids for 4 days.  i have two good friends i am going to try.  he's never been away from me for more than 4 hours and never taken a feeding without me.  did you put the probiotic powder and enzymes in each bottle?  he is taking a capsule of tummy tune up once each day.  i usually mix it with baby food.  we just used my juicer for the first time today and it was great!  i'm totally new at that but we put a banana through it and it really looked like store bought baby food!  i'm excited about trying to make baby food with fruit and veggies.  he loves sweet potatoes the most.  i am so new at all this!  thanks!  c.
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« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2006, 01:31:55 AM »
Hi, fivewittletids,
Slippery elm is an "herb" that comes (only?) in powdered form. It helps both diarrhea and constipation, and is nutritious. It gets a little gellie when mixed with liquid, so you just have to be sure to keep adding liquid till it looks a little on the runny side. You can also mix it with applesauce, etc...  It helped my boy with diarrhea symptoms, and my two with constipation symptoms. It smells really good, and doesn't taste bad at all. You can get it from the health food store (though they may only sell it in caps), or bulk from Frontier Herbs, or Mountain Rose Herbs. I use it as a buffer herb too, when giving my little ones garlic, or anything that might be hard on their little tummies.
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« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2006, 07:51:50 AM »
hi dara!  well we made it through the night!  he was up about the same # of times as usual, but i held him and got him back to sleep.  trying to get him to sleep through for whoever keeps him.  i have 29 days til my trip, so hopefully that will be enough time to pump and save.  so far not much luck with the cup of milk though.  he is teething pretty bad, so wants to chew it.   :-\
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« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2006, 08:30:48 AM »
Avent (the same brand as the Avent Isis Breast Pump) makes a toddler cup with a soft spout. They call it their Magic Cup. My first born wouldn't take a bottle either, but finally transitioned to this kind of cup. (At one time they made one that looks even more like Mommy, but I haven't seen it in the stores lately.)  One friend suggested giving them a sippy cup without the spill proofer silicone in the lid while they are in the tub (less messy) to help them get the idea that something comes out of it, and when they get the idea, switch to putting the rubber back in.  My Mom in law never used sippy cups, but just gave them drinks (milk too) from a big cup.  Hope you find something that works. Dara
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« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2006, 08:39:05 AM »
Nursed babies usually master straws pretty early, so it may be worth trying that if you have a cup with a top.  (If not, the cheapest way to try it may be to order ice water at McDonald's and hope no one sees you at the drive thru!)  Just make sure the straw is narrow enough that a baby has enough sucking power to get to the milk.  ~L

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« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2006, 08:15:15 PM »
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I have two sons, 9 and 5.  I nursed the 5 year old and my milk did not come in for 10 days for the 9 year old, so I was "broken" at the time.  Point being, my 5 year old is the one with the food allergies.  Severe food allergies.  To the point that he is currently on a liquid amino acid formula because he could not tolerate ANY foods.

I nursed him until he was 10 months old, but the problems started at 3 months.  I had Gestational Diabetes and followed a dietician's advice about controlling blood sugar.  She had me eating a lot of protein and very little carbs to keep it level.

I don't know what the point of my post is, but to confuse everyone.  Both were unavoidable C-section babies, the healthy one on soy formula, the non-healthy one, breastfed w/soy supplements.  I will say that even though I believe what I ate during pregnancy and nursing DID affect my little one, breast milk was better for him than the soy formula.


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« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2007, 05:47:20 AM »
ok i have been on here for while and have posted differant questions and what nots, all the while thinking how blessed i am that my kids don't have any problems with food allergies. well all of a sudden it occured to me the other night that my daughter just might have a food allergy/intolerance.
  ever since she was a WEE one she has had BAD poops and a very red bottom. even while nursing, something would hurt her tummy and she would get a bad rash. now that she is 2 1/2 yrs she still has runny poops (like she is still nursing but she's not) and gets rashes almost every other day.  i just always said 'oh she just has a sensitive little tummy that's all". not really thinking that it's probably SOMETHING that she can't eat.
   she also stays congested and or runny.

the other thing we have noticed is that she smells "fishy" -her breath that is. i looked it up and that CAN be associated with some kind of inability ro absorb certain minerals. the only real symptom is that you eventually reek like a dead fish. not painful except socially! :-\

  i know that we can probably point to dairy, yeast, sugars, wheat or the usual culprits but since this is just a new epiphany to me where do i start?
   i know the answer is here somewhere so maybe someone can just point me in the right direction.
   i just feel bad because i look back on her as a baby and realize that i could have prevented alot of discomfort for her if i had even thought of and allergy or intolerance!!

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« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2007, 08:41:54 AM »
well if you still don't know what the allergen is you could start by one by one elliminating the usual suspects for a week, see if she gets better.  If she does get better i would feed them to her once after the week and see if she gets bad again to be sure that was her problem. 

dairy is the first one i would try, hth.

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« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2007, 08:59:23 AM »
My two year old has had 16 food allergies, but we are down to three bad one right now.  My therory is that his big one, milk, is a result of my massive intake of milk during pregnancy.  I craved milk and drank at least five 8 oz cups of it a day.  even while I was nursing him, I still craved it and drank till my heart was content.  I first noticed his allergies at 2 months old when his whole body was always rashy.  Docs dismissed it and I eventually figured it out when he got a swig of big sisters milk cup.  Needless to say, with my next pregnancy I laid off the milk almost completely! This child seems is doing so much better now that we have been on Nature's Sunshines acidophilus for a year and have improved our diet.  He was scoped and all inside was normal, no yeast, leaky gut, etc.  Can anyone recommend anymore remedies to help alleviate his last three allergies?

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« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2007, 02:03:38 PM »
  thanks- so i would cut her off from all dairy for a week....yikes this is daunting...
  their usual foods are cereal with milk yogurt or kefir and cheese...ALOT OF dairy. i ate of it too when i was prego and nursing her and like i said she had alot of the same probs she does now.
   what's the easiest way to go about this...i mean replacing things? i know she won't starve but like i said the bulk of what she eats contain dairy!!

well if you still don't know what the allergen is you could start by one by one elliminating the usual suspects for a week, see if she gets better.  If she does get better i would feed them to her once after the week and see if she gets bad again to be sure that was her problem. 

dairy is the first one i would try, hth.

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« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2007, 07:18:12 PM »
  thanks- so i would cut her off from all dairy for a week....yikes this is daunting...
  their usual foods are cereal with milk yogurt or kefir and cheese...ALOT OF dairy. i ate of it too when i was prego and nursing her and like i said she had alot of the same probs she does now.
   what's the easiest way to go about this...i mean replacing things? i know she won't starve but like i said the bulk of what she eats contain dairy!!

well if you still don't know what the allergen is you could start by one by one elliminating the usual suspects for a week, see if she gets better.  If she does get better i would feed them to her once after the week and see if she gets bad again to be sure that was her problem. 

dairy is the first one i would try, hth.

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« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2007, 10:59:24 AM »
ok. so my son has allergies (at least thats all i can gather from his constant stuffy nose and itchy eyes when ouside/bed time) but I've been told allergies to enviroment stem from food allergies. I didn't give him solids until 7 months and started SLOW. I avoided all dairy till 2...now he only gets egsss once in awhile and yogurt just recently. hes 2 1/2. breastfed till 6 months ago...but only breast milk first 7 months. has any one heard that enviromental allergies stem from food allergies? if so I'm not sure how to figure out what foods are causing problems since at this pont it has created an environmental allergy and diesn't react to any food in particular. he was a gassy baby and my 10 mo is gassy. just started feeding her solids 2 months ago and shes stuffed up a lot. got a crazy rash I think eczema that comes and goes since before she started eating...some else has also told me NOTHING should be eaten 2 days in a row and ideally you would take 2 days off everything...I'm trying this with him but it is so dificult. I just started letting him eat nut butters last week since I was told from his blood work he's having a hard time digesting meat proteins...but I make all my butters with coconut oil and honey...so even if i rotate the nut he getrs the co and honey everyday...has amnyone heard of this. iknow a lot of you do flax/clo/co everday...anyone read any reliable info on this being a problem??

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« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2007, 01:14:38 PM »
does dc - doc? Nuts have families...Oh no now I'm really in trouble. :) I keep hearing coconut is a potential allergy but than I hear it is so wonderful and they've used it in baby formula and all this other stuff...I"m confused about that one. O.kay so you just rotate the basics not the veggies and everything. I'm nervous about the nuts, but they seem so good for him...I"ve got to come to conclusion about that too...anyone with ideas about nuts for 2 year olds?

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« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2007, 03:42:48 PM »
From a slighlty different angle - no one has mentioned wheat/gluten allergies. I know it's a common practice to give rice cereal as first foods  :P but I've heard recently of studies showing that it gives children a pre-disposition to carb cravings  :(  Plus, grains (including rice and oat) are really hard to digest for a little one until they are over 1 year old. 

Also, food sensitivities/intolerances are a different category. The symptoms of these foods dont's show up for 24 hrs to 4 days after ingesting them - hence the 4 day rotation diets.

new2herbs - the only way to eliminate a food allergy is to avoid the food.  :-\  Then MAYBE at some point (1 yr, 3 yrs, 5yrs  ???) they will be tolerable.  What this does if re-sets the immune system so it doesn't react to a "normal" thing as if it were a foreign substance. Sometimes the immune system will not be re-set, but it can become an intolerance instead of an outright allergy.

Dairy alternatives - Rice milk, almond milk - I would avoid soy milk.  Ask God for wisdom and He will give it! ;) I've been amazed at what I've been able to do with the 30+ allergy/sensitivities my son has ;)
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Re: How to Avoid Food Intolerances/Allergies in Childhood
« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2007, 04:41:47 PM »
ok so you rotate because of your allergy to the food...what kind of reaction do you guys have? My son is all itchy eyes and stuffy nose at night and when outside...So you aren;t concerned about developing an allergy because you aren't rotating? He currently doesn't SEEM to be allergic to any food but someone told me 1- if you don't rotate foods you'll develop allergies to them and 2- all environment allergies (which he has) are based in a food allergy...so basically even though he isn't showing a reaction to say wheat (or at least from what one could tell) eating that wheat could cause maybe a grass allergy or some other enviromental allergy...but than it leaves me clueless to whic food is sparking a say grass alergy...does that make sense...sounds crazy...maybe I shouldn;t listen to other peoples ideas so often :) ... so you wouldn't be worried about coconut oil everday if he wasn;t shpwingf a reaction to it?