Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #330 on: February 11, 2009, 06:47:12 PM » by Melie

Is it okay to put the herbs strained out of the alcohol into the compost pile?

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #331 on: February 11, 2009, 07:22:23 PM » by WI Cheesehead

Quote from: WellTellMommy on February 11, 2009, 06:05:12 PM

How do I figure out how much is 2oz. dried herbs?

If you're referring to the dried elderberry, I just assumed it was the same weight as fluid oz. and used 1/4 cup. I decided to try weighing it on my kitchen scale, which, apparently isn't very accurate. It came out to a little more than 1/2 cup. That looked like a lot of berries. Then I decided to test the weight scale with water. It measured 1/4 cup at 1 oz. So, I guess it might be time to find a digital scale! I would use somewhere between 1/4 and 1/2 cup. The 1/4 cup lent a pretty strong (but not overpowerful) taste of elderberry in the syrup, so I think I was okay.

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #332 on: March 05, 2009, 06:08:01 PM » by havasmama_05

Quote from: WI Cheesehead on February 11, 2009, 07:22:23 PM

Quote from: WellTellMommy on February 11, 2009, 06:05:12 PM

How do I figure out how much is 2oz. dried herbs?

Fluid oz and dry oz are totally different. You will not come up with an accurate measurement if you use one for the other. Fluid measures the volume (how much is in a given space) and dry measures weight. I think your scale should be just fine.

If you don't have a scale for weighing, the ABC Herbal gives a recipe. It's 1/4 of herbs to 1 cup of 60% glycerin and 40% water.

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #333 on: April 22, 2009, 02:01:09 PM » by WellTellMommy

My ? is would spearmint be used in the same way as peppermint and as good?
I planted spearmint this year if it turns out well I intend to make a tincture of it.

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #334 on: April 22, 2009, 02:29:38 PM » by ladyhen

Quote from: WellTellMommy on April 22, 2009, 02:01:09 PM

My ? is would spearmint be used in the same way as peppermint and as good?
I planted spearmint this year if it turns out well I intend to make a tincture of it.

Check out information on the individual herbs at herbs2000.com

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #335 on: April 27, 2009, 06:02:05 PM » by jessicah

I recently ordered glycerin from www.essentialwholesale.com
for 16.00. I emailed them to aske if it was food grade. The rep. said it is USP vegetable kosher glycerin- she said it is actually higher than food grade. But they do not "sell" it for internal use b/c the website only sells products "for cosmetic use" I am assuming that is why it is cheap.

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #336 on: August 18, 2009, 08:26:44 PM » by wlwest

Hey, has anyone made the berry brew from the bulk herb store Yet? I just received my stuff today, I just need the blueberries and red grapes. Not sure if this would be the place to post this question, I'm not sure if it's a tincture or not, but I was just wondering how it went if anyone tried it yet??

Wendy

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #337 on: August 18, 2009, 10:00:33 PM » by ladyhen

Quote from: wlwest on August 18, 2009, 08:26:44 PM

I have a batch in a gallon jar in the cellar right now! It is on day #4 of the first week. Looking forward to this!! I have been researching some of these same ingredients for the past year so was very pleased to see the blend when bulk herb store put it on their site.

hth ~c

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #338 on: August 19, 2009, 11:24:27 AM » by wlwest

Quick question, I could not find any red grapes with seeds in them, fresh or frozen, all I could find was red seedless grapes, do you think that would be ok to use those instead?

Thanks
Wendy

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #339 on: August 19, 2009, 02:58:33 PM » by ladyhen

Totally up to you, Wendy.

I have a policy for myself of using what is available and not stressing too much about what I can't get or don't have. ~ ~ Some benefit is better than none ~ ~

I have a printout of the different ingredients which has this to say about the grapes;

"Fermented Red Grapes help to inhibit cholesterol oxidation and arteriosclerosis. Phytochemicals from this fruit are linked to anti-cancer actions, improving heart disease, as well as helping degenerative nerve diseases, viral infections and mechanisms of Alzheimer's disease. The seeds of the grapes are a great source of beneficial compounds that contribute to the antioxidant actions along with concentrated Vitamin E, flavonoids, linoleic acid and tannins. These are found in lower concentrations in the grape skin and juice along with resveratrol, another form of antioxidant. "

So, as I understand it, there is a redundancy in the benefits of the seeds, to a lesser degree, with grape skin.

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #340 on: August 19, 2009, 05:13:27 PM » by wlwest

Yeah, I think the same, some is better than none. Grin

I went ahead and finished making the brew, now I just have to wait!

Next time, maybe I can find ones with the seeds.

wendy

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #341 on: August 19, 2009, 05:14:31 PM » by ladyhen

Quote from: wlwest on August 19, 2009, 05:13:27 PM

Yeah, I think the same, some is better than none. Grin

I went ahead and finished making the brew, now I just have to wait!

Next time, maybe I can find ones with the seeds.

wendy

And when you do, you'll know to buy plenty and freeze them! Wink

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #342 on: October 28, 2009, 11:20:54 AM » by herbs girl

THis thread says Recipes for Tinctures, so I am posting my recipe for Herbal Respiratory. I have used Herbal Respiratory
http://www.mountainmeadowherbs.com/herbal-respiratory-p-107.html?osCsid=a465884ec9643d50bd557d8d5ac76def

from MountainMeadow herbs alot, and it has got us through alot of colds and breathing problems. I am attempting to clone the product as close as I can. I have no idea the amounts they use, only the ingredients, so I studied out the actions of the herbs a bit and have come up with the following formula, that I tweaked a bit. I left out the Elder because The Composition Formula (elder, peppermint, and Yarrow) has elder in it.

Herbal Respiratory Tincture Recipe

2 parts Anise
2 parts Elecampane
2 parts Thyme
1 part Nettle
1 part Sage
1/2 part Licorice
1/2 part Bayberry Bark

I plan to do this tincture 1/2 achohol and 1/2 glycerine, then mix the two together when I am done.

I added Sage because it helps with drying up runny noses and it is good for colds and flus anyway. Herbal Respiratory dosage is every 4 hours as needed. I usually use 1 dropper for the 1 year old, and Up to 2 droppers for the 5-6 year olds., and you could use more for an adult if youw anted to. Every 4 hours , or up to 6x day maximum

« Last Edit: October 29, 2009, 03:53:52 PM by herbs girl »
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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #343 on: October 28, 2009, 11:21:25 PM » by hi_itsgwen

Quote from: herbs girl on October 28, 2009, 11:20:54 AM

rabbit tobacco or sweet everlasting would be a *wonderful* addition to a respiratory tincture. I have been very impressed with this humble little herb!
http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,19973.msg242068.html#msg242068

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #344 on: October 29, 2009, 10:37:46 AM » by Mrs. B

This looks like a great formula, thanks for posting it. I discovered elecampene last winter and loved how it works... can't wait to tincture this one....

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #345 on: October 29, 2009, 11:42:56 AM » by Melie

Does anyone know if I can use fresh, frozen elderberries in vodka in an immune booster tincture or must they be dried first?

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #346 on: October 29, 2009, 12:53:08 PM » by Whiterock

Quote from: Mrs. B on October 29, 2009, 10:37:46 AM

This looks like a great formula, thanks for posting it. I discovered elecampene last winter and loved how it works...

I've only recently heard of Elecampene --like just a month or so ago. I'd love to know more, would y'all please post some info about it? In the appropriate thread or category, of course. =D
Thanks!
WR

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #347 on: October 29, 2009, 12:59:42 PM » by hi_itsgwen

Quote from: Melie on October 29, 2009, 11:42:56 AM

Does anyone know if I can use fresh, frozen elderberries in vodka in an immune booster tincture or must they be dried first?

If you must use vodka for the tincture, then I'd dry them. I've read that using herbs/berries with any sort of water content can cause an alcohol tincture to mold.

I think a good alternative is to use a water based extraction like glycerine, honey, etc. with fresh berries. You'd double the amount called for when using fresh vs. dried.

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #348 on: October 29, 2009, 01:14:44 PM » by Melie

Thanks Gwen. unfortunately, I've already done it so I guess you live and you learn. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Melie on October 29, 2009, 11:42:56 AM

Does anyone know if I can use fresh, frozen elderberries in vodka in an immune booster tincture or must they be dried first?

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #349 on: October 29, 2009, 01:29:22 PM » by Whiterock

I know you've already done it, but next time, you might make the ticture without the berries and make a syrup with the berries. Then add the tincture to the syrup when you're about to take it.
WR

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #350 on: October 29, 2009, 03:09:57 PM » by herbs girl

Thanks for the comments and suggestions on the Herbal Respiratory.
I just placed a order to Morethanalive.com for a bunch of herbs. My children have trouble sleeping, Getting to sleep, and staying their own beds. My idea was to make 2 different tinctures (1/2 glycerine, 1/2 alcohol) and then have them take turns with them. I thought I would give them Tincture I for 1-2 weeks, then trade off to Tincture II for 1-2 weeks until we get a good sleep schedule going! I wanted herbs that my 1 year old little girl can take also. That is why I left out the Scullcap.

Here is what I have come up with

Sleep/Relaxing Tincture I

1 part Chamomile
1 part Catnip
1 part Lemon balm
1/2 part Lemongrass

I think this tincture will double as a fever reducer and Immune activator like the Childrens Composition Formula. Catnip, Lemongrass, and Lemonbalm all lower fevers,and Chamomile calms and relaxes, as well as acivates. It should help upset tummies, colds, and flus also.

From Steven Horne(authour of ABC herbal) article...
Lemon Balm
Like yarrow and elderflower, lemon balm is also antiviral. It is another traditional remedy for colds and flu, but it is also useful for viral disorders like chickenpox, cold sores, and shingles. It has a calming effect on the thyroid and is relaxing and antispasmpdoc, so it helps calm aggitation and restlessness. ...

Optional Indredients
Various versions of Children's Composition may also contain catnip or chamomile. These herbs are also traditional remedies for indigestion, cold, flu, colic and fevers

Sleep/Relaxing Tincture II

2-3 parts Passionflower
1 part Oatstraw
1 part Peppermint
1/2-1 part Hops

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #351 on: October 30, 2009, 08:18:59 AM » by WI Cheesehead

I have another question re: dried elderberry. I get mine from BHS and make a cough/cold syrup with honey, cloves, cinnamon etc. Do you think I could reuse them, once they dry out again? Or would the medicinal qualities be used up? Maybe if I doubled the elderberry or reduced the amount of honey/water? I'm trying to avoid ordering some more right now.

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #352 on: October 30, 2009, 09:21:59 AM » by herbs girl

Quote from: WI Cheesehead on October 30, 2009, 08:18:59 AM

I know that when TincTract's are made ( a special way of making glycerites) they use the herb over and over in 2-3 different proceses until there is often the color is pale in the herb. you could use them a few times maybe?

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #353 on: November 04, 2009, 04:42:16 PM » by Melie

Oh, I think I just answered my question (I hope). I just veiwed this Susan Weed YouTube video where she just rolls the berries straight off the plant and covers them with vodka! Easy as that, so I'm thinking my mixture should be okay? Hopefully.
here's the link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufEcKRG1ALU

Quote from: Melie on October 29, 2009, 01:14:44 PM

Thanks Gwen. unfortunately, I've already done it so I guess you live and you learn. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Melie on October 29, 2009, 11:42:56 AM

Does anyone know if I can use fresh, frozen elderberries in vodka in an immune booster tincture or must they be dried first?

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #354 on: November 04, 2009, 07:52:44 PM » by Whiterock

Ooh, good to hear, Melie!
WR

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #355 on: November 04, 2009, 08:40:17 PM » by boysmama

I was under the impression you had to be more concerned about water content with a solvent like glycerin, honey or oil, than in one like alcohol or vinegar. I hope more comments will be made on this aspect of tincturing.

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #356 on: November 04, 2009, 09:37:02 PM » by ladyhen

Quote from: boysmama on November 04, 2009, 08:40:17 PM

I am inclined to think you're right about that. Wink

Just anecdotal, I know, but I put fresh onions, ginger, etc. into the apple cider vinegar for MasterTonic. I have never had any problems with it and that is a tincture that we keep for a full year.

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #357 on: November 04, 2009, 10:21:39 PM » by WI Cheesehead

I do have a cough/cold syrup that uses elderberry simmered in water (with cinnamon and cloves) and then you add honey to it. I keep it refrigerated and have never had a problem. I can't use glycerin or alcohol, as the kids wouldn't take it then. They tolerate the honey sweetened kind though.

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #358 on: November 13, 2009, 11:47:41 PM » by herbs girl

I just found a whole bunch of tincture/glycerite recipes and information on tincturing and glycerite making.

A really good link...

http://butterflyexpressions.org/Informational/MakingHerbaMedicines2.pdf

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Re: Making Tinctures: Recipes, Tips & Tricks
« Reply #359 on: November 20, 2009, 04:04:02 PM » by daisey

this has probably already been answered here but I don't have time to read through the whole thread...........How many drops of Chamomile Glycerite can you give a newborn baby?

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