A CURE FOR SIDS???

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #60 on: April 20, 2008, 01:28:13 AM » by cjanderin

Quote from: chrissyjoy on April 19, 2008, 08:53:50 PM

yeah i don't see how mold could get into a crib mattress w/ the material they are made of Huh

I thoughht after 3 months you were petty clear of sids Huh

Found this in an article about SIDS and it was the same sort of stats that were given in other articles as well.
SIDS is more common in boys, babies exposed to cigarette smoke (during pregnancy and afterwards) and babies who slept on their tummies.

The peak period for SIDS is between two and four months old. It is very rare before one month of age, and at least 95% of all the cases have occurred before children reach six months old. But this doesn't mean that when they pass six months all fear will subside. For as long as we live, this marvelous life we share is both strong and fragile, a treasure to be cherished moment by moment.

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #61 on: April 20, 2008, 04:13:50 AM » by gabi

Quote from: cjanderin on April 20, 2008, 01:28:13 AM

For as long as we live, this marvelous life we share is both strong and fragile, a treasure to be cherished moment by moment.

Amen!!!

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #62 on: April 20, 2008, 04:47:06 PM » by prolifeguyswife

Quote from: chrissyjoy on April 19, 2008, 08:53:50 PM

yeah i don't see how mold could get into a crib mattress w/ the material they are made of Huh

I thoughht after 3 months you were petty clear of sids Huh

I've never seen a crib mattress without tiny holes in it, but there may be some. I know for certain friends of mine have had mold in their mattresses that they tossed because it was "visible". My concern is mold on the inside, where you can't see it.

Not that there isn't plenty of other things that could happen, but I thought SIDS can occur up to 1 year. I know someone whose baby died at 6 months of SIDS, but then he was immunized...I don't know if that's why or not.

I co-slept with my daughter on a memory-foam mattress, too, and I wondered about the fumes. Just to be safe, we used an extra mattress cover and put her in one of those flimsy sleep positioners on her back. It gave me some peace of mind because there was a little bit of a barrier in case I fell asleep with her on DH's side of the bed, and I always had my arm around her in the positioner. I was thinking that would give her a little more separation from the chemicals in the bed...but who knows? My DH said "Whatever makes you feel safer." It made me feel she was safer, but I'm not sure if she actually was!

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« Reply #63 on: April 23, 2008, 11:31:45 AM » by mommie

So I looked at my crib mattress and NO holes only along the sides where the thing in"sewn" and there are air vent metal type things on the sides two on each side...If there are holes on top they are microscopic cause I can't see them

Now there is a tear in mine which obviously could cause a problem but besides that...I'm very curious...but now about the big people bed...i am actually buying a new mattress right now...well...i was gonna buy it last week but now this whole thread is making life rather difficult on me

So after searching and checking prices on a big person natural organic bed (my kids are in bed with me till they are well over one) I'm thinking the price of the organics 2000 easy for king w/ the fact that we are trying to move to ecuador as soon as God opens the door and that bed will get shoved in a bin and go through customs and God only knows what will happen to it and grow in it even if it is organic being in a bin for several weeks or months in an extremely humid area and all that...i hate to spend that money in this situation...so I'm thinking (sorry I'm rambling here ladies ) get a regular memory foam/high density foam mattress take the flame retardant cover off buy a wool cover than put a mattress pad over that and maybe that will keep the mold/fungus from gettting to the foam and causing the gases??? Than maybe buy an organic crib mattress and set it up next to my bed for the kiddies to sleep in when they are not in my arms in bed...does anyone think that that would be a good comprimise or just the mold in the air can cause the problem or is it the bed itself getting wet??? Any ideas/suggestions ladies...I hate to put a price on something like this..but I'm trying to be realistic too going to be missionaries and all.

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #64 on: April 23, 2008, 11:56:56 AM » by ladyhen

Quote from: chrissyjoy on April 23, 2008, 11:31:45 AM

Sorry chrissyjoy, this will be a decision that you and dh need to arrive at yourselves.
I would like to share with you what we decided, though. We have extremely limited resources to live on, so buying many things that we would like or prefer to have is out of the question. What we have done for beds is to buy mattresses as we are able and get the best we can at that time. Then I put heavy guage plastic (with young ones) over the mattress, followed by a couple of layers of natural fiber covers and then the cotton sheets. We have used old towels for mattress pads with children, and were blessed once to be given a couple of heavy wool woven blankets because the color had run in them. These have worked really well for us! As we have been able, we have bought cotton innerspring futon mattresses and been happy with them, although we still use the wool and cotton 'mattress pads' under the fitted sheet.

Since the natural fabric that we use for mattress covers is washable, I am not inclined to worry excessively about mold in them. Since our babies all slept with us and generally slept on their sides, I wasn't too concerned. I did, however, have lots of extra padding under where baby and I slept - 'cuz we both tended to leak. Grin

just my opinion Wink

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #65 on: April 23, 2008, 01:22:20 PM » by mommie

thank you ladyhen!! so for instance towels are not a problem unless of course the chemicals are in the mattress underneath...the towels would not prevent the chemicals from coming up. correct? it also seems that the chemicals in the flame retardents themselves don't cause Sids but the chemicals mixed with mold? (not that the chemicals themselves don't cuase a mirriad of other problems!! ) Does it sound like i'm understanding right here? and lastly the bed would have to get wet to get the mold problem to cause the problematic gases is that right as well?

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #66 on: April 23, 2008, 01:46:18 PM » by ladyhen

Quote from: chrissyjoy on April 23, 2008, 01:22:20 PM

I'm not saying that the way that we do/have done things prevented any chemical exposure. I worry a LOT about the flame retardants and the outgassing from the breakdown of the foam, etc. I am just saying that we absolutely had no way of buying 'safe' mattresses, so this is what we did and we just prayed that it was sufficient to keep us as free from all of the problematic things as possible. I felt and still feel a bit safer having a few extra layers of washable fibers between me and that mattress.

From what I have heard and read over the years since we have been trying to live as naturally as possible, there is no way to completely avoid all the toxins in the environment. We just try to limit what we are able to and willingly turn our eyes elsewhere.

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #67 on: April 23, 2008, 04:23:34 PM » by mommie

yeah the more I learn the quicker I want the Lord to return and take us home!!

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« Reply #68 on: April 27, 2008, 09:16:08 PM » by mommie

O.kay so I decided on 100% all natural latex mattress. We were about to buy a new mattress anyways cause we bough one 1 1/2 years ago and just took it out of the box and it won't inflate so Costco.com is returning our money! So I looked on line and they were WAY out of my price range..but I just found a local guy who sells them on line and we got a 8 " dunlap 100 percent all natural latex bed w/ a plain 100 percent cotton cover for 1250...it has a sock w/ fire retardant chemicals but I can take it off! Yeah!! So w/ the money i have coming back from my other bed and the tax stimulus package we got it covered...I just posted this on here though so incase anyone is looking for a "cheap" latex bed it seems like this guy is the way to go...www.mattresses.net...

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #69 on: April 28, 2008, 09:26:55 AM » by ladyhen

That sounds great, chrissyjoy. I love that you can remove the fire retardant. Be sure to post how you like it.

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #70 on: April 28, 2008, 10:13:36 PM » by petrimama

So, if latex is good for SIDS would a water bed be good? They seem rubbery.....probably wouldn't get much sleep the way hubby flip flops, though.... ~L

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #71 on: April 29, 2008, 08:50:33 AM » by mommie

I think I read they were bad cause of the water/mold/heat etc... I'd have to look again though...not sure

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #72 on: May 12, 2008, 10:32:56 AM » by Ruby

Has everyone been pleased with their BabeSafe mattress cover? Anyone not like it? Where did you buy yours?

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #73 on: May 15, 2008, 01:00:16 PM » by HapEMom

I am pleased with mine! If you order from http://www.babysake.com/BabeSafeUSA.htm
you can get free shipping. This is where I bought mine.

It bought me some peace of mind.

Amanda

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #74 on: August 25, 2008, 09:10:51 PM » by lovetoreadmom

Quote from: Ruby on November 09, 2007, 09:36:25 AM

Does it help to lay the mattresses out in the sun? When we were growing up, my dad had the mattresses out in the sun twice a year. We were the only family I ever saw doing that, but he insisted. I was just wondering if that would help with the outgassing. I'm about to buy a new crib mattress as our baby is growing out of the bassinet. I'm nervous about this. We're also going to get a new mattress for our bed and sometimes the baby sleeps with us. I know my husband won't let me put our new mattress out in the backyard

but I could probably get away with doing the crib mattress. Any ideas?

I was thinking about this the other day, and then after reading through this whole thread again, I am definitely going to do set the mattresses out in the sun. I do have a couple of questions:

1. How long should I do this? time of day to start? flat or leaning?

2. After letting the crib and cradle mattresses sit out, should I wipe them down w/ just a warm wet rag or should I should some sort of mild soap also? Should I do that before and then wipe them down w/ a dry rag to wipe off anything that would be on them from sitting out?

3. Do you just lay them on the ground or should they be up on something to prevent anything from the ground getting in/on them?

Any tips would be helpful!

Thanks!!

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #75 on: August 26, 2008, 12:28:55 PM » by herbalmom

I answer to your questions. Put the mattress up on something to keep moisture, bugs, etc out/off of it. Put it wherever & in whatever position needed to get maximum sun.

This thread also has lots of good info:

Mattresses & Bedding

Sunning mattresses of all kinds helps to 'bake out' the chemicals. It will never remove them completely but it will somewhat lessen them. HTH Blessings ~herbalmom

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #76 on: August 26, 2008, 12:41:31 PM » by herbalmom

Quote from: petrimama on April 19, 2008, 06:24:10 PM

I thought all modern crib mattresses were covered in vinyl so that they couldn't absorb fluids. Also, wouldn't mold spores show up in an autopsy here and there, since most SIDS victims do get autopsied? ~L

I seriously doubt they ever look for mold spores or mycotoxins. (the toxins that molds/fungus puts out) If they aren't looking for it, they won't find it.

Personally though, although I think that mold is likely the cause much of the time I also think many times it's chemical poising. Being chemically sensitive myself, I can tell you how much chemicals can overwhelm MY body & I'm an adult. I can also recognize it for what it is & do something about it. Some of my symptoms include breathing problem, shortness of breath, spaciness, sleepiness, etc. The types of symptoms (esp the spaciness & sleepiness) that if a baby was experiencing would make the baby LESS likely to fuss, cry, etc to where a parent might realize something was wrong. Keep in mind here that I'm talking about STANDARD household chemicals. Cleaners; choline in tap water; outgassing from upholstered furniture, carpets, paints; exhaust fumes from vehicles; etc. Nothing out of the ordinary for average babies these days. The covers mentioned probably do help not just by blocking mold spores & mycotoxins but by also blocking chemical fumes from the mattress. Food for thought.

Blessings ~herbalmom

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #77 on: August 26, 2008, 12:44:34 PM » by herbalmom

WATER BEDS ARE DANGEROUS FOR BABIES TO SLEEP ON They can get trapped between the mattress (the bag of water) & the frame & suffocate.

Quote from: petrimama on April 28, 2008, 10:13:36 PM

So, if latex is good for SIDS would a water bed be good? They seem rubbery.....probably wouldn't get much sleep the way hubby flip flops, though.... ~L

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #78 on: August 26, 2008, 02:49:20 PM » by cjanderin

Quote from: petrimama on April 28, 2008, 10:13:36 PM

So, if latex is good for SIDS would a water bed be good? They seem rubbery.....probably wouldn't get much sleep the way hubby flip flops, though.... ~L

I agree with herbalmom. Waterbeds are really dangerous for babies. Babies need a firm surface to sleep on.

I think the best way to protect against SIDS is to look at each of the risk factors and change them for your baby. The main risk factors are:
babies who were pre-term
babies between 13 and 24 weeks
babies exposed to smokers (inc. mothers who smoke in pregnancy)
babies who sleep on their tummy
babies who co-sleep with parents
babies in crowded/overpopulated houses
certain ethnicities (don't know what these are for America)
babies who overheat because the room is too hot/they are overdressed
babies who sleep with pillows, soft toys etc in their bed

The biggest one is the back sleeping. However, if you want to sleep your child on it's tummy then I would check they aren't at risk for the other things first. I would never recommend that somebody who has preterm baby, or smokes then sleeps their baby on it's tummy. And certainly never ever on their tummy on a waterbed, beanbag etc where their head can sink down and they suffocate.

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #79 on: August 26, 2008, 04:18:27 PM » by lovetoreadmom

Quote from: herbalmom on August 26, 2008, 12:28:55 PM

What about wiping it off w/ a rag (damp or dry?) after letting it sit out?

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #80 on: August 26, 2008, 04:34:18 PM » by lovetoreadmom

I found this mattress pad, which is sold at Wal-mart. Is this something that I could put over the babysafe pad (or plastic sheeting from Home Depot), and then put the sheet on after that?

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=9864297

They list the specs for it . . . what do you think?

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #81 on: August 26, 2008, 07:56:20 PM » by herbalmom

Quote from: lovetoreadmom on August 26, 2008, 04:34:18 PM

I found this mattress pad, which is sold at Wal-mart. Is this something that I could put over the babysafe pad ~~(or plastic sheeting from Home Depot),~~ and then put the sheet on after that?

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=9864297

They list the specs for it . . . what do you think?

The mattress pad looks like it would be a good choice as far as mattress pads go.

~~~WARNING-DO NOT USE PLASTIC SHEETING~~~

if the baby or anyone else (another child maybe?) pulled it out the they could suffocate on it. Think about how much a bed, even a baby's, can get all the covers, sheets, etc disheveled sometimes & you will realize just how easily it can happen.

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #82 on: August 26, 2008, 07:59:43 PM » by herbalmom

Quote from: lovetoreadmom on August 26, 2008, 04:18:27 PM

Quote from: herbalmom on August 26, 2008, 12:28:55 PM

What about wiping it off w/ a rag (damp or dry?) after letting it sit out?

If it's a baby mattress that has the water resistant cover you can wipe it off with a damp cloth after sunning/airing it. Wipe it dry with a dry cloth esp along the edges where moister can get caught in the edges & stitching & let it air in the house for a while to be sure it's fully dry before putting the bedding back on. HTH Blessings ~herbalmom

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #83 on: September 08, 2008, 03:10:24 PM » by WellTellMommy

I have a question that does not pertain to sids but to bedding in general and clothing in general.
What fabrics are best to wear and cover with and how important should this be to me?
I have what I have and can't go out and replace it all but I would like to make more educated purchases for the future.
I resently found a wool blanket for a very reasonable price and am curious about this subject and all the treatments to fabrics that I should be on the look out for.

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #84 on: September 08, 2008, 03:33:03 PM » by ladyhen

Quote from: WellTellMommy on September 08, 2008, 03:10:24 PM

I make decisions based upon my own extreme chemical sensitivity, so we use only natural fibers as much as possible. I believe the same principle that I use for our food applies to my immediate environment; Use things that are as close to their natural state as possible.

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #85 on: September 08, 2008, 05:09:26 PM » by Lucky Scrunchy

Another great place to get mattress covers is www.stopsidsnow.com. I recently purchased mine and the lady that runs the company was truly helpful and answered all my questions. And let me tell you, I asked A LOT of questions

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #86 on: September 14, 2008, 12:49:52 PM » by mommie

I personally would be concerned about the wool w/ a young child/baby...with older kids I would hink a good washing and drying would be good Huh

just my thoughts

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #87 on: September 14, 2008, 12:54:11 PM » by ladyhen

Quote from: chrissyjoy on September 14, 2008, 12:49:52 PM

I personally would be concerned about the wool w/ a young child/baby...with older kids I would hink a good washing and drying would be good Huh

just my thoughts

I'm just curious about why you are concerned about wool?

We have old, shrunken wool blankets for our mattress pads on most of the family's beds.

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #88 on: September 14, 2008, 09:14:46 PM » by mommie

i believe the chemicals they spray the sheep w/ are prettu bad if they're not organic
http://www.stopsidsnow.com/Sheepskins.html
i assume if the skin is bad from the pesticides than so would the wool

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Re: A CURE FOR SIDS???
« Reply #89 on: September 14, 2008, 09:55:30 PM » by ladyhen

Hhhmmmmm - - Never thought of that. Huh

I don't know if the wool would be a problem after all that it goes through being cleaned, dyed, etc.. I still feel better, for us though, using wool and cotton rather than synthetics.

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