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  Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2008, 07:42:00 PM » by savannah
How old? Male or Female?  37 female

Do you wear makeup or use facial creams/ sunscreen (baby powder/lotions on baby bottom before infection)?yes

How long did this condition last?  most of my life:  dry,patches of red,irritated,scaly,flaky skin esp. around eyes

What various treatments did you try and what were the results of each treatment?natural salves for skin problems never helped including miracle salve.i tried various clinique products which never really helped, coritsone is the only thing that would give temp. relief. i got rid of sls shampoos and soaps, scented laundry soaps,etc.

What finally worked? i have recently had much sucess with witch hazel because i  think it has been a fungal issue.  i am going to try  the witch hazel w/o the alcohol and see if that works as well.   i take tummy tuneup, garlic, a yeast defense, fish oil
which i hope helps.

Any other observations?  i just wonder if it's a fungal issue, if creams and salves dont make the condition worse.


Note: I am interested in lists of meds/herbs that were used and how they failed or succeeded; also try to remember if lotions, gels, creams, or powders were used topically on a standard basis before the infection occured. Note your diet, allergies, or other medical conditions as well.
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  Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2008, 12:11:26 AM » by mykidsmom
Yooper,

This is the first time I've read your history with eczema.  I think you should consider that you are dealing with two separate issues, not one.  My experience with eczema is that it is almost always related to a food allergy.  Have you had an ELISA food allergy test done?  I'm betting you're allergic to something you would never consider and don't know it.  For example, my SIL is allergic to pineapple - who woulda thought that?  You can eliminate the usual suspects, nightshades (tomatos, potatos, etc), dairy, gluten, etc. but if those don't do it I would suspect some other food(s). We just discovered bananas are an issue in this house.  I would look at things you eat a lot of but are not the usual suspects.  Have you already eliminated tomatos, potatos, etc?

One thing I have discovered in treating eczema is that once everything is eliminated from the diet that you're allergic to, healing comes quickly.  We used Berts Bees Coconut Foot Cream in the beginning and then switched to Berts Bees Banana Hand Cream.  The Coconut works faster but can cause uncomfortable symptoms.  The Banana Cream works very well and is very comfortable.  It took about 30 days or less of nightly use and the eczema was gone.  But if an allergic food is gotten ahold of, it's hours or so and eczema comes back.  I would highly encourage you to do an ELISA test.  It is worth the money and will save you money in trying different supplements/approaches that may not work because you could be missing something.  We also did the DSS baths when things were miserable.  I would bath the boy in DSS then gently pat him dry and slather him in the Banana Cream. 

I think the yeast is a totally separate issue.  I've not seen yeast cause or aggravate eczema.  I think once you have the dry/red patches that you can develop yeast on top of the skin rash as a result of scratching/open air, etc., but I do not believe it's yeast that causes the rash.  Does that make sense?  Doing yeast cleanses, etc. is probably as effective as anything for that.  We have and are using nystatin internally and I would say we get the quickest results using that internally while following a good anti-yeast diet. 

hth

patti
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  Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2009, 08:00:04 AM » by Yooper
I just updated my study.

Patti,
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on my eczema; they are welcome.  Smiley  Kiss

Mercola thinks eczema is often triggered by a food allergy(ies), too (link HERE).  Allergies are implicated in the GAPS book, as a result of gut dysbiosis (have you gotten there yet?).  Grin Totally possible here.

I have never been ELISA tested, but I think I'll do GAPS first, as my children are in need of it, too.  My skin is clearing as I quit taking things that would cause die-off, even w/ diet not being 100% GF or GAPS.  This would go hand in hand w/ my 18 days MC experience where I had the worst rash ever, so unless my allergy was maple syrup, cayenne or lemons...I'm thinking it's die-off.  As I posted in my update, my recent thoughts about my eczema being worse since adopting a WTM lifestyle may be due to a die-off reaction  I have YEARS of toxins accumulated, I'm sure.   Roll Eyes

Quote from: mykidsmom on December 31, 2008, 12:11:26 AM
Yooper,

This is the first time I've read your history with eczema.  I think you should consider that you are dealing with two separate issues, not one.  My experience with eczema is that it is almost always related to a food allergy.  Have you had an ELISA food allergy test done?  I'm betting you're allergic to something you would never consider and don't know it.  For example, my SIL is allergic to pineapple - who woulda thought that?  You can eliminate the usual suspects, nightshades (tomatos, potatos, etc), dairy, gluten, etc. but if those don't do it I would suspect some other food(s). We just discovered bananas are an issue in this house.  I would look at things you eat a lot of but are not the usual suspects.  Have you already eliminated tomatos, potatos, etc?

One thing I have discovered in treating eczema is that once everything is eliminated from the diet that you're allergic to, healing comes quickly.  We used Berts Bees Coconut Foot Cream in the beginning and then switched to Berts Bees Banana Hand Cream.  The Coconut works faster but can cause uncomfortable symptoms.  The Banana Cream works very well and is very comfortable.  It took about 30 days or less of nightly use and the eczema was gone.  But if an allergic food is gotten a hold of, it's hours or so and eczema comes back.  I would highly encourage you to do an ELISA test.  It is worth the money and will save you money in trying different supplements/approaches that may not work because you could be missing something.  We also did the DSS baths when things were miserable.  I would bath the boy in DSS then gently pat him dry and slather him in the Banana Cream. 

I think the yeast is a totally separate issue.  I've not seen yeast cause or aggravate eczema.  I think once you have the dry/red patches that you can develop yeast on top of the skin rash as a result of scratching/open air, etc., but I do not believe it's yeast that causes the rash.  Does that make sense?  Doing yeast cleanses, etc. is probably as effective as anything for that.  We have and are using nystatin internally and I would say we get the quickest results using that internally while following a good anti-yeast diet.  hth patti
I have the BB's products you mention, but they've bothered my skin in the past if there was any redness.  I"m only using DSS now and some pure cocoa butter when the redness is gone w/ success.  I'll keep those in mind, though.   Smiley  The healing IS going faster than usual, so I'm a bit perplexed...unless my die-off theory is true... Huh

What you said about yeast's involvement w/ rash is intriguing.  I think yeast die-off may contribute to the rash but not be the cause itself,OR like I think you're suggesting, becomes a complication w/ ana existing rash.  Nystatin topically or internally wasn't helpful to me...

Thanks again...lots to mull over.   Cheesy
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  Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2009, 11:46:33 AM » by Yooper
Quote from: westernskys on January 19, 2009, 10:23:15 AM
Quote from: MomOf6Girls on October 20, 2006, 10:15:58 PM
Melaleuca has a lotion called Renew that has been double-blind tested against Eucerin for relief of eczema, psoriasis, and dry skin, among other skin conditions.  I personally have over 135 customers  in my customer base and have not seen ANYone who hasn't had the Renew lotion COMPLETELY clear up their dry skin or eczema.  My husband's hands would crack and bleed, but by using the Renew once a day, he hasn't had that problem in over 2 1/2 years.  Anyway, you wanted skin testimonials.  That's mine.  :-)

Rhonda
Unfortunately, tho I love Melaleuca products, I have used it on two kids with severe eczema, and dh who has severe dry, cracking skin. despite using it faithfully at least once (often twice) a day, it doesn't work. NO improvement on the eczema, and only slightly with the dry skin. (he still has to tape or super-glue his fingers almost daily because of the pain.) I love it for my 'normal' dry skin, but for severely dry skin...it just doesn't cut it.  I haven't found anything to work, tho. The eczema we found out was celiac in one child, and outgrown in the other.  my .02
It didn't work for mine, either.  Sad  I had high hopes. 

The petrolatum ASP, cetyl alcohol, methylparaben, propylparaben and fragrance are ingredients I need to avoid.  Dh liked it for his dry skin, though.  Smiley
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  Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2009, 06:22:53 PM » by sarajane
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How old? Male or Female?

Baby, a boy from the time he was about 3 months the rash began and slowly got worse and worse.
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Do you wear makeup or use facial creams/ sunscreen (baby powder/lotions on baby bottom before infection)?

No.

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How long did this condition last?

A few months until I found a way to make it all better. He will still break out if I do not keep him on a special diet.

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What various treatments did you try and what were the results of each treatment?

I tried the cortisone cream, it helped a little at easing some of the itch but by no means cured him.

I tried Miracle salve, it was great for keeping infections away from the scratching he did but did not cure him.

I even tried an anti-fungal cream which worked initially but ended up burning him and then no longer working.

I had to moisturize his skin 3-4 times a day and also put on cortizone cream just to keep him semi happy. He didn't sleep well, and the rash was always wet in the center near the creases in his arms and legs, on the outer edge it was dry and cracking. He had many scabs from scratching all the time. He also had cradle cap.

Pro-biotics didn't help.


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What finally worked?
He was breastfed and did not have any solid food. I went on an elimination diet to find his food allergies out. For the first week I only ate very few foods. Turkey, squash, olive oil, rice, potatoes, salt, pepper, and apples. I only drank water and un-sweet ice tea. We found out he is allergic to avocados, eggs, soy, dairy, and wheat/gluten. Some of the allergies are worse than others like the egg seems to be really bad.

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Any other observations?
Wearing pants seemed to help as the crawling on the floor irritated his knees.

I made sure to use my homemade laundry soap, no fabric softener but instead vinegar in the rinse to rid our clothing of residue.

After all this I am convinced that food allergies should be the first thing a person who has eczema looks to figure out. I was also told by a friend that frankincense essential oil is great for eczema but I have not tried this myself. Some people I have spoken with like to use apple cider vinegar on their eczema skin.

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Note: I am interested in lists of meds/herbs that were used and how they failed or succeeded; also try to remember if lotions, gels, creams, or powders were used topically on a standard basis before the infection occured. Note your diet, allergies, or other medical conditions as well.

Again, I am looking for any stories you have or have knowledge of. If you got a cure, great! If not, I would still like to hear your story.

Well, I mentioned the cortisone cream, helped/aided with itching but was NOT a cure.

Chamomile baths seemed to sooth him and soften his skin. But again was just something good for his skin but not a cure.

Regular moisturizing helped the dryness that still can come a times even though he is "cured". I never really call it cured seeing as it is a food allergy thing. He is cured as long as he doesn't have any of those foods.

I plan on slowly giving him a little here and a little there through me via breast milk to help him build up a tolerance but I want his gut to be healthy and strong first.

Miracle Skin salve healed the infection he had from scratching.

I think that is pretty much it. The cure was from the inside out, eliminate those foods that caused him to breakout.

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