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Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« on: October 19, 2006, 06:13:32 PM » by ForeverGirl

I still don't have a computer (borrowing Gabe's) but I need to gather some info via case studies on skin rashes, infections, fungus, etc... Any imput will be highly appreciated, but I am looking for experiences whether or not they have solutions!

If you (or someone you know) have ever experienced a weepy/dry rash around your nose and mouth (also known as perioral dermatitus) http://dermnetnz.org/acne/perioral-dermatitis.html please list your experience how you treated it (see questions below):

If you (or someone you know) has ever had a baby that had an unusually stubborn and painful daiper rash, please list the experience and how you treated it:

If you (or someone you know) have ever experienced what is called "Vaginosis", (an extreme, advanced type of vaginal infection related to yeast, in which the tissues breakdown and pain is extreme, bleeding and tearing occur) please list your experience and how you treated it:

If you (or someone you know) have ever experienced persistent patches of infected rash-like areas that bubble/weep, on your skin or scalp, please list your experience and how you treated it:

How old? Male or Female?

Do you wear makeup or use facial creams/ sunscreen (baby powder/lotions on baby bottom before infection)?

How long did this condition last?

What various treatments did you try and what were the results of each treatment?

What finally worked?

Any other observations?

Note: I am interested in lists of meds/herbs that were used and how they failed or succeeded; also try to remember if lotions, gels, creams, or powders were used topically on a standard basis before the infection occured. Note your diet, allergies, or other medical conditions as well.

Again, I am looking for any stories you have or have knowledge of. If you got a cure, great! If not, I would still like to hear your story.

Thank you!

Rebekah

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2006, 06:43:11 PM » by blessedmamadp

If you (or someone you know) has ever had a baby that had an unusually stubborn and painful daiper rash, please list the experience and how you treated it:

How old? 6 months - 15 months Male or Female? My son

Do you wear makeup or use facial creams/ sunscreen (baby powder/lotions on baby bottom before infection)? I didn't use anything on him. Only the occasional diaper rash cream.

How long did this condition last? Off and on over 6 months. It got so bad that he would bleed from the diaper rash.

What various treatments did you try and what were the results of each treatment?
Diaper Rash creams. Desitin, Balmex and a parmasist made up a cream with cocoa butter and other stuff. The Balmex seemed to do better than Desitin. The pharmacist's cream did the best. It smelled pleasant - not mediciney. We tried switching from cloth diapers to disposable and back. It didn't seem to make a difference as long as we were prompt with changing the cloth. We tried fresh air to the bottom. We tried putting yogurt in his diaper. Nothing seemed to work.

What finally worked?
Our family doctor recommended us to a specialist. The specialist took one look at it and called it a fungus like athlete's foot. He told us to get the athlete's foot/jock itch cream and it cleared it up.
Any other observations
Looking back I realized it was a yeast infection. He was still breast feeding and with my diet, he was probably dealing with a lot of yeast. He also probably had had antibiotics in there once or twice (now I avoid them more than I did then). I would have treated it with probiotics or more yogurt. I would love to have a natural diaper rash cream too. I got really tired of the desitin that seemed so chemical-filled. The Balmex or the pharmicist's cream seemed more natural.

Hope that helps!

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2006, 06:58:24 PM » by amazonmama2five

Alo! I had eczema as a child. On my skin it would be dry almost scaly feeling but it would weep if I scratched. As a small child my Mom used Eucerin (it is white and non-scented now---it was a brown STINKY paste 30 years ago). All symptoms disappeared when I hit puberty but came back around age 15 ( we also moved out of state around the same time). Hormone creams and Eucerin more or less kept it in check until my freshman year at Bob Jones. During that year I suffered greatly, especially my hands and eyelids. People thought I had some kind of contagious leprosy or something. Skip from age 18 to 22. I got married and it was awful for the first year---then I got pregnant it would vacillate from leper-looking to baby skin. Huh

After the baby came it disappeared! I have had 5 children #2 and #3 had signs of eczema during infancy but they totally cleared up by toddlerhood. Praise the LORD!! I have had no reoccurences and the children show no signs of this problem.
Since I started researching problems and health issues for myself, I have found that stress adds to the problem. My Mom never let me go wild with oranges or tomatoes (acid), she felt they created the symptoms. I have since found that walls of the intestine (bowel) that aren't working properly and not absorbing can cause skin irritation. Not eating properly+stress=eczema! At least in my case. I know food does play a part, but I believe colon and intestinal health play a much bigger part.
That's my story!
Lisa
P.S. I was SO sensitive to any kind of soap/lotion/cream that I very rarely used any. The Dermatologist reccommended that we buy Phisoderm and that did not aggravate my skin so much.

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2006, 08:07:37 PM » by healthybratt

I had an itchy head for ten years. It itched so bad on some days I had sores on my head from scratching so much. I also had severe itching on my thighs (also scratched to sores). Sometimes the bottoms of my feet and the palms of my hands itched as well.
~I went to the doc many times and was treated with antihistamines, anti-depressants. I also tried every dandruff shampoo on the market and even tried plain apple cider vinegar and nothing helped. The anti-depressants lessened the itching but was only masking the problem. I finally figured out the source of the itching was my shampoo and other products in my home that contain detergents. I got rid of these and the itching went away. I wash my hair with bar soap and rinse my hair with apple cider vinegar and I no longer have this problem.

I had recurrent vaginal and skin yeast infections for about 18 years. I have alot of leftover skin/fat in the belly area from my C-sections and under my belly was a hot-spot for yeast to reappear over and over. This rash would get raised and red. It itched and hurt. Sometimes it would get bad enough the skin would peel off. I also had fungal ear infections. This made my ears itch and hurt. For the ears, I had them cleaned by a specialist but the infections came back over and over. I once got a yeast infection on my inner thighs when I was pregnant. The doctor said it was from excess moisture due to incontinence (another hot spot for yeast). This rash was red and purple and raised and very painful, almost raw.

My doc gave me multiple prescriptions including Terazole, Diflucan, and Clotrimazole w/Betamethasone Dipropionate (steroid). The Terazole worked for the immediate vaginal infection. Diflucan never worked even with 2 doses (for vaginal and skin). The Clotrimazole w/Betamethasone Dipropionate was for external infections and was/is very effective. I have tried over-the-counter 7dayMonistat which burns worse than the infection. I also found clotrimozole 2% cream (3 day treatment) which worked well. But, the infections always came back because these treatments only masked the underlying problem.

I stopped taking antibiotics. About a year before I decided to treat, I quit oral contraceptives and I've cut way back on anti-inflammatory pain killers as they are all contributors to the problem.

I quit eating sugar for 2 weeks and then added healthy sugars back into my diet, but now maintain a fairly low sugar intake. I started taking Yeast Assassin and Tummy Tuneup6 and my symptoms began to wane. I ran out and the symptoms came back (about 2 months later). I started up again and the symptoms are gone. I no longer get yeast infections anywhere. I intend to take these supplements for at least a year total before I attempt to see if I am healed completely. I have also incorporated homemade yogurt (weekly) and kombucha(daily) into my diet. I also take cod liver oil and glutamine in hopes to heal my gut so that these symptoms do not reappear when I stop taking the yeast supplements.

During treatment, I had severe die-off reactions and the symptoms returned full force vaginally and on my arms and belly. For temp relief from these symptoms, I used my steroid/clotrimazole cream on my skin and I alternated between clotrimazole 2% cream, whole punctured garlic cloves, vinegar & lavender doushe and Tummy Tuneup 6 & 8 intravaginally. All four provided the same amount of relief, but the garlic and TT worked much faster and are much less of a mess. I had tried yogurt in the past and never had much luck with it.

Sometimes, I feel like my ears haven't drained completely and make me worry about recurrance of infection, so to dry them out and kill anything that might be lurking, I pour alcohol or peroxide in them for a few minutes each every so often.

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2006, 08:36:47 AM » by SarahK

If you (or someone you know) has ever had a baby that had an unusually stubborn and painful daiper rash, please list the experience and how you treated it:
Each boy had recurring sores on glans & urethra and in rectal area. These were first a red spot that blistered & then broke open and would crust over (obstructing the urethra opening) and would often re-open repeatedly.

How old? A - 18 mo B - 8-12 mo C - 3-6 mo Male or Female?all male

Do you wear makeup or use facial creams/ sunscreen (baby powder/lotions on baby bottom before infection)? no - none

How long did this condition last?approx 3-5 months each boy

What various treatments did you try and what were the results of each treatment?Sun exposure, extra rinses in washer for cloth diapers, extra hot drying in dryer for diapers, Mullien leaf & aloe, Aloe alone, Dr. Naylor's Udder Balm

What finally worked? None of the options cleared his sores completely. Sun & Dr. Naylor's worked the best at slowing the progression of the sores, but only delayed the inevitable. I eventaully deduced it was related to our new washer. We bought a new front loader W&Dryer when we moved. After I started using my cloth diapers in the new machine, 'A' started the process. He was soon trained out of the diapers & I thought no more of it. 'B' was next and we were slow to put him from paper to cloth diapers, so he didn't start sores until he was in the cloth a few months. He would scream with bladder pressure & bleed from all sores. He was trained on an accellerated schedule & we were beginning to suspect the cloth diapers. 'C' was only in cloth briefly (1 month?) and started sores. We monitered him closely and concluded the washer & cloth diapers were the problem.

Any other observations?We tried a large variety of cleaners in the washer from mildest to harshest trying to kill whatever was living in them or eliminate what was being left in the diaper from the laundering. No luck. We have abandoned cloth diapering and may only try it once again if I get a clothesline to dry them on. Good news is no open sores, blocked urethras or bleeding since. I still don't know exactly what was the specific thing (germ, addative, etc) that was the cause.

Note: I am interested in lists of meds/herbs that were used and how they failed or succeeded; also try to remember if lotions, gels, creams, or powders were used topically on a standard basis before the infection occured. Note your diet, allergies, or other medical conditions as well. Dr. Naylor's is an over-the counter veterinary balm - pretoleum based - for milking cow udders with antibiotic componants. I only used it on the reddened areas before the skin was open. I used fresh Mullien leaf and aloe juice, Mullien leaf & aloe leaf, & Over the Counter Aloe gel. The only thing that changed from pre-sore to post-sore was the move to a new place with a new washer & dryer.

Again, I am looking for any stories you have or have knowledge of. If you got a cure, great! If not, I would still like to hear your story.

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2006, 02:34:16 PM » by ForeverGirl

Thank you, ladies. These are really helpful. Any one else?

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2006, 03:15:57 PM » by boysmama

When we started aggressively treating for yeast both my toddler sons broke out with a raw rash/sores.
My oldest only had it on his face and one arm. We tried all the available OTC fungal creams with no improvement. Sometimes it would fade to almost nothing and then in an hour would be raw again.We could not seem to find any pattern to what made it worse again. We kept giving him Threelac and then TT. After several(2-3) months it went away completely. I think this was part of candida die-off...
My youngest son was breastfeeding and developed raw sores in the diaper area. I also think this was die-off related since I was taking some three-lac. At that time I washed my diapers in Dreft, double-rinsed and line-dried. I don't use any soap, shampoo, lotion or powder on my boys. I tried treating the sores with Desitin, Balmex and one other diaper rash cream. They made it worse. We tried different brands of disposable diapers and then back to cloth. Not much difference either way as long as I changed them frequently. I also tried all the OTC anti fungal creams. They didn't make a difference either way. Cornstarch seemed to help to dry it up a little. Olive oil made it worse. A raw cut garlic clove rubbed lighly over the sores seemed to help as well as lots of sunshine and air. Soon after that we got TT and I sprinkled some right on his sores as well as giving it orally. I think the sores were gone with in a 1-1 1/2 weeks of starting TT.

As far as diaper rash I have had only a little problem once in awhile that would be taken care of with one application of cornstarch. The exception was a recent virus that produced terrible smelling diarhea. It didn't affect the appetite, but the food was not digesting. I guess the BM were terribly acidic and just burned the skin off because even my ds (pottytrained) came within seconds of the first accident and his bottom was raw. This was the whole diaper area and genitals. I only gave them plain foods but this continued for almost ten days. We washed them with running warm water each time and used cornstarch, sunshine/air, and goot salve. I started using the goot when their bottoms started looking infected. Everything seemed to help. The bottoms would look so much better til the next BM. When it was all over I used fresh gel from an aloe leaf to speed up the healing. Within a day there was no raw areas even in the creases.

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2006, 03:32:03 PM » by boysmama

Becca, I looked at that link you posted after I wrote the above post. The pics look amazingly like what my oldest son had on his face and arm. The red rash around the mouth out on to the cheeks and chin that was sometimes rashy and sometimes inflamed open sores.... I looked at some of the pics for other conditions too.( I can't spell the name of that condition from memory) but would you think that it has any connection to yeast?

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2006, 03:46:33 PM » by lavendergirl

our son ( 8yrs.) had round scaly sores on his bum. They were not ringworm, which is what we thought at first. I took him to the ped. , who loves research, and we looked in his journals for a while
trying to diagnose this rash. He finally settled on possible psorisis. He gave samples of a steroid cream( can't remember the name , it's been a year Wink

and i wanted to try an herbal cream from my local health store. He suggested i use steroid cream on one bum cheek and the herbal cream on the other cheek. After the cream was applied he would lay without clothes under a flourescent light which my electrical contractor hubby attached to the bottom of his top bunk and lay for 15-20 minutes 2-3x's daily. they were also around the front of him poor little guy Embarrassed

The herbal cream side began drying up within a few applications and the other side finally had to start being treated with the herbal cream because it was drying so slowly with the steroid cream. I will have to get the herbal ingredients later as the one who mixed it is in China for a few more days Grin

She works mainly with essential oils for her products. I'm still working on this kid as he is the one i posted that has skin discoloration(fungus ?) kinda like you mentioned rebekah, and spooned toenails. I don't know if any of this is related or not. The doc felt the toenails could be a symptom of psorisis but we still aren't convinced. We had the herb shop mix up some neem oil with a carrier oil to rub on the skin discoloration but he broke out in a small rash( like sandpaper). The discoloration circles his arm some back and some chest. He is a redhead but isn't really fair skinned.
I hope this wasn't to long but i tend to be long winded Cheesy

, atleast that is what hubby has said, hehe I'll be excited to read your research rebekah

Becky

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2006, 09:45:22 PM » by DawnsEarlyBirds

My daughter had skin issues from the time she was about 6 months old till recently. As an infant she had a persistent diaper rash that a dr. said was yeast, prescribed Nystatin. That made her bleed so we quit it. Later the diaper rash disappeared, but after a cracked bone in her leg she developed a rash around her throat. It looked like her brothers had tried to reinact a lynching with her! Another dr. diagnosed her with a sluggish digestive system and gave her spanish black radish (which I later learned was a source of sulphur.) That helped, but did not get rid of the problem.

Her rashes subsided in the summer. The next winter (she is now 2) she developed what we thought was eczema in her elbows and behind her knees. But at least the neck rash was gone! Back to the dr., no help. After a cracked hand bone, it worsened and the spanish black radish helped again, a bit, but still no real relief. We tried all kinds of creams, and the interesting thing was they all worked for a brief period of time. For a while I would get excited thinking we had finally found her "cure" but none lasted long. She would come into our bed every night and itch and itch and itch. I would put the cream of the day on her and eventually she would get back to sleep. We used all kinds, from bag balm, to natural, to eucerin and even hydrocotisone creams.

Another interesting thing that happened last winter, she was 3 years, was that 3 times during the winter she had some stomach issue, would throw up, not eat for at least 3 days, and her skin would clear up COMPLETELY. As soon as she would eat anything the rash would immediately reappear. We could not do a elimination diet because just eating would cause the rash. There was no food that we could give her that would not cause it.

THEN we discovered salt baths. Since giving her baths with Dead Sea salts she has been almost, but not completely rash free. At first I had to give them to her every 3 days or so. Now it is only when she asks for them. She will tell me she is getting itchy, we have a bath, and she is fine. We even took some salts on a trip recently and had to use them. We do notice certain foods now that exasperate her problems, the rash shows up in very specific places, not in elbows or knees interestingly enough. Most on her thigh, or her upper arms.

I think she had/has yeast problems and the salt killed the yeast on her skin. We still think she has digestive problems, and after reading some of these posts I am thinking I will try the TT and YA on her. We do know she had food absorption problems, and her calcium was very low (thus the easily cracked bones) and are giving her Bone Ami now (she needs a liquid calcium.) Another thing we suspect is leaky gut syndrome. We are drinking very little milk and 1% now (we have always been whole milkers till I started on welltellme - no raw milk to be found.) The only thing is, how did she get yeast problems? No antibiotics for me or her? I also thought it was interesting that her problems increased after the stress of the cracked bones.

One other thing, a few alternative drs. have told me that all skin problems are digestive problems. So we have always been looking in that direction. That is why the salt working surprised me since it was topical.

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2006, 10:15:58 PM » by MomOf6Girls

Melaleuca has a lotion called Renew that has been double-blind tested against Eucerin for relief of eczema, psoriasis, and dry skin, among other skin conditions. I personally have over 135 customers in my customer base and have not seen ANYone who hasn't had the Renew lotion COMPLETELY clear up their dry skin or eczema. My husband's hands would crack and bleed, but by using the Renew once a day, he hasn't had that problem in over 2 1/2 years. Anyway, you wanted skin testimonials. That's mine. :-)

Rhonda

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2006, 02:23:10 PM » by cherish

My testimonial is for the herb Jewelweed. My Grandmother has had psoriasis for years and has tried many different things to try to get rid of it. This summer I made up a Jewelweed salve from fresh Jewelweed that I gathered with the kids, simmered it in Olive oil and then added Vitamin E as a preservative and Beeswax to set it. I took it with me to a family gathering to give to my sister who had developed poison ivy. (That was the main reason I had made it). My Gradmother was there and asked if it would work for her Psoriasis which had really been bothering her lately. She tried it and that night it did not bother her at all. She was so impressed and couldn't believe that it worked (I was kind of surprised myself although I had read in Practical Herbalism that it is good for any type of rash).
My friend also came to me asking if there was anything I knew of that could help her 8 month old son who had pretty bad diaper rash going on for months. They had tried every cream and change diaper brands but nothing was working. I have her some Jewelweed as well and the next week she came back to say that it worked! This is great stuff!
Of course this is only 2 people but my husband also used it on his poison ivy and it took that away right away as well. We love Jewelweed!

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2006, 02:47:36 PM » by Christal

If you (or someone you know) has ever had a baby that had an unusually stubborn and painful diaper rash, please list the experience and how you treated it:My son had red raised patches on both sides of his bottom and if he has a runny diaper it will turn his bottom bright red and even make it bleed.

If you (or someone you know) have ever experienced persistent patches of infected rash-like areas that bubble/weep, on your skin or scalp, please list your experience and how you treated it:Same son had these on his legs and back.

How old?He had the raised rashes from birth to 12 months, bleeding rash will still occur with a dirty runny diaper. Male or Female?Male

Do you wear makeup or use facial creams/ sunscreen (baby powder/lotions on baby bottom before infection)? I tried baby lotion on the dry raised patches but didn't help.

How long did this condition last?Almost a year probably.

What various treatments did you try and what were the results of each treatment?Tried baby lotion, Dr. Burt's diaper rash cream. Neither worked.

What finally worked? I made homemade laundry soap, quit bleaching diapers, used Ivory bar soap to wash him and rinse with vinegar. Rashes cleared up in less than two weeks. Bloody rash has happened a couple of times when he wore a poopy diaper too long but comfrey ointment will heal it in one or two applications.

Any other observations?His dry patches are returning with the cold, windy weather we are having. Same thing happens to me. I have failed to use the vinegar rinse on him much so I plan to start again and possibly add sea salt to his bath.

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2006, 06:14:10 PM » by healthybratt

Quote from: cherish on October 23, 2006, 02:23:10 PM

My testimonial is for the herb Jewelweed.

Will you share your recipe with us, please?

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2006, 07:57:03 AM » by cherish

This recipe is based on information from Practical Herbalism by Phillip Fritchey.

I made an oil extract by gathering 3-4 cups of Jewelweed leaves at a park near our home and simmered them in Olive Oil in the oven at 200 degrees overnight. Just add enough olive oil to cover the herbs in the pan.
I strained it and added vitamin E to preserve it (1/4 teaspoon per ounce of extract)
Later I made it into an ointment to make it easier to apply. You can simmer the oil extract on the stove and add 1/2 ounce shaved beeswax per 4 oz. extract and let the beezwax melt.
Pour into a jar and let set.
It is very easy and fun to make when you gather the herbs yourself. From what I understand Jewelweed does not dry well and you have to gather it fresh in order for it to be beneficial.

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2006, 05:17:13 PM » by rootdoctor

Quote from: BeeyoutifulGirl on October 19, 2006, 06:13:32 PM

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If you (or someone you know) has ever had a baby that had an unusually stubborn and painful daiper rash, please list the experience and how you treated it:

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How old? Male or Female?
female

Do you wear makeup or use facial creams/ sunscreen (baby powder/lotions on baby bottom before infection)?
none

How long did this condition last?
3 months or more

What various treatments did you try and what were the results of each treatment?
desitin, and every diaper rash cream there is, bag balm, then doc prescribed a steroid cream covered with desitin

What finally worked? stopped milk products

Any other observations?
around 11 months of age my daughter started drinking cow's milk when she stopped nursing (we later saw the connection) she started having diaper rash less than a month later. this progressed until she was cracked and bleeding and constantly crying every time we changed a diaper. Doc tried everything he knew, I will make no comments on that pediatrician Lips Sealed

We had a friend tell us about milk's problems and stopped the milk in her diet. It took a few days to a week and the rash started clearing up and then she never had a diaper rash again. I knew nothing about herbs at the time. I only knew to blindly follow the doctor.

As a side note, one baby was colicky all the time and always crying...off milk and happy baby. Another friend's baby had eczema all over his body, stopped milk and it went away. Several I know had babies and toddlers with chronic ear infections, stopped milk and away went the problems, even prevented tubes in two children's cases. One baby with asthma( even hospitalized twice), switched to goat's milk and asthma went away. These are cases I know personally about..read many, many others.

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2006, 07:21:44 PM » by kamom

We have a now 5yr old dd who has been plagued with a rash since she was around 4 months old. She was strictly breastfed when she first broke out. It starts with round dime sized patches that are raised and scabby, not always round tho. She gets it only on her arms,cheeks and and bottom (back), occasionally she might have a spot on her legs.
When she first got them I used prescription steroid cream which would clear it but it always came back. I tied many different creams and oils,vit e, lotions for eczema,eucerin etc. Nothing worked at that point except for the steroid. We also used desoximetasone with good results. Wanting to find something besides prescription cream and after desperate prayers I stumbled unto Vaseline Intensive Care, only the Advanced Healing kind will do it. It is fragrance free and the main ingredient is dimethicone. I called a pharmacy and asked and they said it seals moisture into the skin? So then I tried other natural things to hidrate her skin, including fish oil and Vit e gel caps but nothing worked.
Sometimes it will clear for awhile then it comes back again.
It gets allot worse! if we use bubble bath or laundry detergent. I use a homemade lye soap with no fragrance. I use soap on her very sparingly and add Burt's beeoil to her bath water. If she breaks out, out comes the Advanced Healing lotion. I have never had the strength to stick to a strict elimination diet with her. My latest try was beta caratone gel caps and that seemed to help quite a bit. I still give her fish oil capsules too. my next try will be the DSSalt. The only milk besides breastmilk in her first yr was goats milk.

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« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2006, 10:20:53 PM » by carolinachic

I have had severe eczema since I was little. I controlled it when I got older by not using any scented shampoos, lotions, perfumes, ect. I couldn't even wear panty hose. The last three years at the same time of year Nov-Dec I would break out into a horrible allergic reaction similar to my eczema outbreaks, only on my face. So severe within a couple hours I was in the ER getting an IV and shot because it would begin to travel down my throat. It itched so intensely, I had to keep very cold rags on my face. Nobody knew what caused this sudden reaction and I still don't know!!! Last year I was determined I wasn't going to the ER or pay the 500.00 bucks it costs us, so as soon as I felt the itching coming on, I smeared Aloe Vera all over my face and kept my face coated for three days. By day three, there was no swelling, no itching, and I could feel my face again...I believe that was my first introduction to the miracles of Aloe Vera Grin

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2006, 11:45:07 PM » by likemanywaters

My son (now 2 1/2) has had mild eczema since he was about 6 months. It started as a small patch behind his knees and elbows, wrists & fingers.

We think it may be liver overload / lack of fats, calcium and minerals / improper complex carbohydrate and fat digestion and we are changing his diet. We were eating a diet very heavy in carbs (and lacking in raw milk), which for him was creating major digestive problems, leading to his eczema. 01/08

Any other observations? When he had diarhea for a couple days his skin would clear up completely. It was amazing. That's how I knew it was gastrointestinal. Also his rash is always very clear & small (almost gone) in the morning and gets worse progressively as the day goes on (after eating a couple meals). Another reason I knew it was GI problems.

Also, sadly I took antibiotics while in labor with my second baby who is now 6 months. It explains why, after I got out of the hospital I developed a patch of ringworm on my leg. I had never had it before and at almost the same time my new baby that I was nursing developed a blistering yeasty looking diaper rash. The antibiotics killed off my good flora, thus causing my ringworm AND her diaper rash. Thankfully they have both cleared up now, and I'm praying she won't have any more complications due to that!!

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2006, 10:13:35 PM » by Chels

If you (or someone you know) have ever experienced persistent patches of infected rash-like areas that bubble/weep, on your skin or scalp, please list your experience and how you treated it:
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When my baby boy was three months he developed such a rash on his cheek. When he was six months it still would not go away. I did some researching and found the essiac tea @ herbalhealer.com. After reading all the info and testomonials, I ordered some of the 4-herb tea along with colloidal silver. I made a batch of the tea for my self and diluted it for my baby also with a few drops of collidal silver.The next day it was noticably clearer so I kept giving him the tea every night before bed. Within five days it was completely gone and havent seen it since.

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2006, 11:06:03 AM » by ForeverGirl

Sorry for so many questions. Please answer these if you can. For Candida, do you need to avoid all yeast foods, like yeast bread?

Yes.

Do you have to avoid stuff made with baking soda?

No. But the less white flour the better.

What about brewer's nutritional yeast? (supposedly it has good helpful amino acids in it) I've read conflicting advise on several things like that.

Best to avoid.

What about avoiding vinegar?

Vinegar should be fine, as are other natural cultures like yogurt, kefir, kombucha.

mushrooms?

Fine.

Do you have to avoid ALL natural sugars too such a honey and raw fruits?

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No, you don't have to avoid them %100. However, I would recommend cutting down on them and keeping your intake of honey marginal.

Thanks for sharing your case study with us.

And welcome to the coolest group of ladies (and a few guys) I've ever met. There are dozens of experienced and studied folks here that I learn from daily.

-Rebekah

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2006, 03:12:24 PM » by mommytimesfour

I was searching on this site to find a solution to a rash I have. I have not gotten a diagnoses yet. I do not know what it is. It is blistery, itchy and in odd places: a large patch on my abdomen, a small patch on my lower leg, wrist and ring finger. My jaw line is also very itchy with no blisters. So far I have tried applying peppermint, garlic, tea tree oil, sting eeze and a mix of hydrocotizone cream and Urchine rescue. None have worked. I am working on week two of this rash. I hope to find out what it is and treat it. When I get more info I will add it as to hopefully benifit your research.

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2006, 10:54:06 PM » by carolinachic

Quote from: mommytimesfour on November 25, 2006, 03:12:24 PM

Your symptoms sound very similar to mine, especially the rash on the ring finger and jaw line. A form of Eczema!!! I've found that if I apply straight aloe vera on it it usually disappears in a few days. I just keep a paste on it. For two years I had these symptoms and let it get so severe with the itching that I ended up in the ER with an IV and shots!!! I decided to slab on aloe vera and since then I have managed to control it. Grin

BTW, no one could tell me what it was...although I figured eczema since I've struggled with it since I was a small child.

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2006, 12:58:28 AM » by joychild24seven

If you (or someone you know) have ever experienced persistent patches of infected rash-like areas that bubble/weep, on your skin or scalp, please list your experience and how you treated it:

I have had dandruff since I was 14 years old and have always had to use a dandruff shampoo to keep the itching/oozing to a minimum. My scalp didn't so much flake, it seemed more like an oozy scab in places and it itched even when using dandruff shampoo (from head and shoulders to T-Gel, Scalpacin, etc.)

How old? Male or Female?

I am 23 now, female.

Do you wear makeup or use facial creams/ sunscreen (baby powder/lotions on baby bottom before infection)?

Makeup yes, facial creams not regularly, sunscreen not regularly

How long did this condition last?

Almost as long as I can remember.

What various treatments did you try and what were the results of each treatment?

dandruff shampoo, cutting out sugar, rinsing with ACV, salt water baths

What finally worked?

Of everything the REAL Salt (brand) baths worked the best. I'd wash my hair with bar soap and rinse it by soaking in a tub with 1/6 of a cup of salt dissolved in. This cleared it up in so many days and it is 2 weeks without the baths that I can feel it starting to itch again. So I'll probably go soak my head again. (I don't like the saltly buildup on my hair tho)

Any other observations?

My head and other itchy skin patches itch after I eat sugar. I'm reasonably sure it's yeast, or a fungal infection living symbiotically with yeast. I'm not sure that I could do a complete yeast cleanse at this point in my life, so the salt water baths (and no detergents/lotions on my skin) are probably my best options.

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2007, 08:48:34 AM » by Momofone

Perioral Dermatitis/Rosacea/Impetigo... - it was diagnosed with as many different names as doctors I went to.

How old? Male or Female? First got it around age 20. Started getting it again at age 38-39. Now am 40. Female

Do you wear makeup or use facial creams/ sunscreen (baby powder/lotions on baby bottom before infection)? At the time, yes. I wore the same liquid foundation that I had for years (Cover Girl). I did not stop using make up at the first onset.

This second go 'round, I was still using makeup, but suspected that it agravated it, so I quit using liquid foundation. However, it was after a hot, humid summer of using Banana Boat Sunscreen on my face (now I use a hat!) that set it off! I still use a powder on occasion.

How long did this condition last? First time: It came on as a small spot, then went away after a week or so. Then came back as a bigger spot a month or so later, before dying away again. On & on it went, getting bigger and bigger over nearly a year, until the spot reached from the side of my nose to the corner of my mouth. At that point I went to a Dermatologist.

For the second onset, it got much worse, much quicker than the first time. ALL the way around my mouth and nose - even effecting the skin around my eyes. Again, I went to the doctors. They told me it was uncureable and yet still tried to give me all sorts of creams and pills. Didn't actually take any of them.

What various treatments did you try and what were the results of each treatment? First time: The Dr. gave me some sort of Tetracycline that cleared it right up!.... Then I started getting what could be classed as "carbuncles" - huge, red, swollen and sore lumps on my face.

For the 2nd outbreak, I tried some sort of soap that was supposed to kill skin mites that supposedly caused it. That made it feel like FIRE! Also tried OTC creams to take away the pain and itching - they all made it worse.

What finally worked? STOPPED USING SOAP! I now use Aveeno Ultra-calming Cleanser. I also put some Aloe Vera gel on it for a while, and some comfry tea/leaves I had made. That seemed to help the healing. And, sometimes when my skin gets dry, AMAZINGLY - I can put Shoshanna's salve on the area without it causing a flare up!!!

Any other observations? I do have a thyroid problem, that I have had for such a long time.... I can't recall if I had the thyroid problem diagnosed before the skin trouble, or not.

update 8.20.08 Came back to this thread to see if anyone else had posted any other clues, or if Forevergirl had posted any findings. I must say that (to be honest) nothing has "worked", per se, as I still have flare ups. Can't say I know for certain what causes them: dairy? stress? combination of many things? I definitely can say that sweating and hauling hay in July makes the rash ANGRY.

I have wondered, for those that have rashes, how many have had Chicken pox, Strep throat (Impetigo), or Mono in the past? I do know that some "childhood diseases" do not actually "go away", but rather go dormant. Is it possible that some rashes are a deviant of a previous illness? Just thinking "out loud".

8.26.08 Thinking "out loud" again.... My hubby is reading Natural Cattle Care by Pat Coleby copyright 2001 Acres USA Publishers Austin, TX. On page 152, under the heading of ECZEMA, it reads:

"...Eczema is not so common in farm animals as it appears to be in pets, which are often fed grossly inappropriate diets. A teaspoon of zinc sulfate a day should be given to a cow that has eczema (not dermatitis, that is caused by a copper deficiency)....."

Hmmmmmmmm........ Huh

? I have some Zinc on hand, so I will up my dose and see if it makes a difference. If not - I will order some copper!!!

KS Lisa; Plain & Tall

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2008, 08:40:02 AM » by 4lilkeepers

How old? Male or Female? 14 yr old female

Do you wear makeup or use facial creams/ sunscreen (baby powder/lotions on baby bottom before infection)? Yes, she wears CG Aqua Smooth makeup, cg concealer but not much during the week, just on sunday's and maybe a couple of days during the week, sunscreens on the face

How long did this condition last?She has developed this over the last two weeks. it has progressively gotten worse. It seems to be a classic case of perioral dermatitis

What various treatments did you try and what were the results of each treatment?I just began treating it lastnight and I found a site that suggested a&D ointment. She put it on before bed and this morning it is almost gone. It instantly helped the burning, tightness that she felt. We are going to try the ACV as it was hghly recommended as well.

What finally worked?so far the a&D ointment

Any other observations? Dh has had a severe scling, itching patch on both sides of his scalp, in the same spots. He has had this for several months and read somewhere that it might be linked to MS. He has also had a stubborn toenail fungus that developed the same time ast the scalp problem. He treated the toenail with thursday plantations teatree oil with some sort of acid, in it. It finally went away after three months, but is threatening to return from the looks of it. He also did a complete yeast cleanse with YA and TTU and Acid. Blast. He followed the diet religiously, but no change.

In the last 4 years I have developed a dry red, scaling itchy patch on my hand (around the knuckle) I also have something similar on the top of my foot. They have flair ups but are usually better in the warmer months. Some friends of ours have just recently disocvered that the husband has a form of MS, but have spent 3 years just trying to diagnose it! His wife has developed a horrible, fast spreading form of psorasis as well.

Note: I am interested in lists of meds/herbs that were used and how they failed or succeeded; also try to remember if lotions, gels, creams, or powders were used topically on a standard basis before the infection occured. Note your diet, allergies, or other medical conditions as well.

Again, I am looking for any stories you have or have knowledge of. If you got a cure, great! If not, I would still like to hear your story.

Thank you!

Rebekah

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2008, 08:53:22 AM » by 4lilkeepers

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2008, 06:07:47 PM » by hi_itsgwen

Oops! Sorry this is such an old thread...I ran across it and thought I'd post a recent experience with diaper rash.

Diaper Rash:
My 6 month old rarely ever gets diaper rash. She will every so often get a few red bumps on her bootie, which I will treat with lotrimine ointment (a fungacidal, non-greasy ointment usually labeled for athletes foot). These little bumps will clear up usually in one or two treatments. She has very fair skin, and I eat a varied and fairly healthy diet. She is only on breastmilk at this time.

A few days ago, she started to get very red skin in her crack, and with some rash bumps. I have no idea what caused the rash. I treated it with the lotramin cream (learned this trick with my first two babies, but before I started using herbs). The rash continued to get worse. The next morning, when I changed her first morning diaper (Bumgenius 3.0, cloth diapers but with synthetic materials), her whole fanny was very red and covered in tiny little prickley bumps. There was no bleeding, but it was very red and irritated looking. I immediately applied the lotramin cream, as well as some lavender essential oil. Neither seemed to help much. She went bare bottomed the whole day, with the exception of one nap, in which she wore a cloth diaper. I continued to apply the lavender oil. The redness and rash did not get worse, but neither did they improve.

After seeing no improvement after 6-8 hours of the airing out and lavender treatments, I switched gears. I applied a salve that I had made from olive oil, comfrey, burdock, and plantain. I put a disposable diaper on her, and let her take her evening nap. When she woke up, there was remarkable improvement. The redness was gone completely, and there was just a scattering of the little bumps. I repeated this treatment before bedtime, again opting for a disposable (there is less bulk, and they are cooler in my opinion). She was completely healed the next morning...hooray! She has not had a re-occurrance, and we've gone back to her regular diaper routine.

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Re: Case Studies for Skin Ailments
« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2008, 12:41:11 PM » by Yooper

I've updated my case study...I will continue to add to it and may even link to it in my signature when it's done for those who want to know how I'm dealing with eczema.

After so many theories, I think I'm finally at the point of admitting that looks like it's a fungal rash, due to yeast (candida) overgrowth. Undecided

I am on an anti-candida diet, and things are clearer when I follow it.

12/21/08
I think it's more than yeast...it's definitely a factor, but am going to try the GAPS program to address my poor start in life, intestinal flora-speaking...antibiotics, phenobarbital (for febrile seizures), formula, and vaccinations.
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If you (or someone you know) have ever experienced persistent patches of infected rash-like areas that bubble/weep, on your skin or scalp, please list your experience and how you treated it:

UPDATED 11/08
How old?
I am a 35 year old female

Do you wear makeup or use facial creams/sunscreen?
Yes to make-up; no to sunscreen and creams

How long did this condition last?
I've had eczema in various forms, places, and degrees of severity since I was a young child. I was on the Standard American diet, high in potatoes and white bread. No naturally fermented foods, drank past./homo. milk, etc. I was a "sugar sneaker". Roll Eyes

Within the past year or 2, I've gotten the clear, itchy bubbles under the skin in between my fingers.

What various treatments did you try and what were the results of each treatment?
As a child I was treated mostly w/ a compound...a cream similar to Eucerin; in fact that was one component...also menthol and a steroid cream? Maybe triamcinolone? I think when things were really bad, we had corticosteroid ointment like aristocort, triamcinolone, fluocinonide (forgive the suspected misspellings!) and others. I'd recognize the names if I saw them.

As I moved into more a more natural way of living...I tried salves w/ comfrey, red clover, goldenseal, aloe, you name it. I tried a brief Candida cleanse; probiotics, blood purifying herbs, etc. I did the Master Cleanse in 12/06.

I also tried emu oil, lanolin, almond oil, cocoa butter, etc. Those help w/ dryness, but not redness, itching, etc. It only seemed like they were trapping the rash in and not ridding me of it. Mominjesus1 makes a fabulous emu oil lotion, BTW.

What finally worked?
The steroid or ANTIFUNGAL creams/ointments "worked" (to get it under control temporarily). Fluticasone was one.

Different herbal salves gave various degrees of temporary relief.

BUT now, the best results are from treating it under the Fungal-Bacteria thread...w/ DSS baths/dabbing it on diluted, CLO, and liver support herbs, and staying away from sugars and foods that feed yeast.

When I did the 18 day Master Cleanse, it resulted in a huge rash...spread more than ever and irritated. ~~I guess my liver was working better!~~ ~~I think reintroducing troublesome/highly allergic food resulted in greater sensitivity after being off of them for so long.~~ ~~OR, the daily maple syrup fed the yeast?~~ Now I'm suspecting it was major die-off.

I am skipping the soap and shampoo (using diluted ACV/body scrub/borax/citric acid). I also sleep w/ 100% cotton and try to wear only natural fibers. ~~I also suspected that I have dermatitis herpetiformis (celiac disease of the skin).~~ GOING Gluten Free DOES NOT HEAL MY SKIN ALONE.

Any other observations?
Red food dyes seemed to aggravate my rash, and MSG, too.

Other:
I was on antibiotics at birth. In ICU for about a month, due to e. coli meningitis. I was not breastfed, either, and I suspect I was put on solids before 1 year of age. I do have eczema in our family; paternal grandmother had it bad. Was vaccinated on schedule for the early '70s, whatever that was then. Just discovered I was also on phenobarbital for febrile seizures as an infant, too.

I will keep thinking and adding more as I consider my long history!

Miscellaneous notes:
DHW posted the following:
http://www.knowthecause.com/NewsLetterArticles/tabid/69/newsid449/78/Out-in-the-Field-/Default.aspx

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A reminder that skin conditions with a fungal component can be very hard to treat. It may worsen before it begins to heal. The time frame is months, not weeks. Pain may disappear before there is a visible improvement

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