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« on: November 02, 2006, 02:47:07 PM » by Joyfulmomto9
treatment.

I have been ill for all of my teenage and adult life but not realized it (if that makes any sense) until it took an even deeper turn for the worse about 3 years ago now.  Just recently in the past 4 months after a bout with a viral illness it has progressed again to more serious symptoms of what could very likely be an auto immune disease (probably is).  I have so many symptoms if I listed them all it would be 2 pages long or more.

I do not plan to go to a traditional medical Dr. (I have already gone that route before) I have had lots and lots of blood work and tests run, more tests may be helpful but we do not have any insurance and I feel very strongly that in the end it would probably not matter anyhow because from the possible diagnosis's I have to choose from the medical community has no cures or effective treatments (that I am willing to use) for these illnesses.

I have read so much stuff in the past 2 years and in the past week have done nothing but read everything I can get my hands on about natural cures and trying to narrow down possible diagnosis's or causes of what is going on.  I have figured out that I need to have my silver fillings out,(I am choosing to have the teeth pulled out rather than have the filling removed)  and need to chelate for heavy metals etc..  And also am sure that I have chronic fatigue that goes hand in hand with adrenal exhaustion (which I have known about for 2 years).  Hopefully I do not have early MS although I have many of the symptoms (and also of Lupus, rheumatoid arthritis and fibromyalgia).  Also my throat hurts all the time since my last viral illness in July) and my lymph nodes on my neck are slightly enlarged from time to time.  This is disturbing to me along with my other vast amount of symptoms.  It's probably cancer  Roll Eyes

I need to start treatment for these things as soon as possible.  I thought that maybe hair analysis could be helpful but have heard conflicting thoughts on them.  It would be helpful to have some concrete idea of what my body is deficient in and if there is a concrete way to test for heavy metal toxicity.  I have heard of different ways the analysis (seems they all have their own yet different preffered methods) use to test your body. 

So my question is: How do I know what way of testing my body the best?  I plan to use a natural doctor I do not know a doctor that would be willing to test for mercury poisoning.  These treatments all cost lots of money so my plan was just to have the naturopath test my body and see what I would need and then I would figure out based on that what to do. 
I am positive that I do have some degree of mercury toxicity as I had epilepsy as a child and had 4-5 grand mal seizures a day and was on meds (that were not good) for that.  So maybe I don't need testing but I would like to see it in writting before I pull out my teeth Huh
Do any of you know a reliable way of testing the body for chemical toxicity and vitamin deficiency anything that you personally really have faith in?  I realize that this may be alot of trial and error for me but for my husbands sake who has to pay for all of this I need to keep it to a minimum. 

It seems like there are alot of varied opinions on chelating.  I have heard read that it is intravenous and then I have heard it is injections too and then I have heard lots about taking natural chelating supplements like chlorella (sp?) and cilantro and gluthione.  I have heard cautions on chelating with your filings in and some people say no it's fine.  I really don't know what to think?!  Also how does the Candida and mercury work together I read BeeyoutifulGirls comments about that but I am unclear.  Do I have to get rid of the Candida first (which is what I have been doing for the past year off and on) or will that make the mercury worse.  Do I deal with the mercury first or both at the same time? Shocked


If you were really really sick with the prospect of getting worse and worse would you go to a Naturopath and pay the money or would you just read up as much as you could and just do trial and error at home.  I don't want to end up in a wheelchair.  I want to be 100% so I can give my children back to the Lord someday.

Thanks for any insight. 

   

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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2006, 01:21:24 AM » by ILoveGodsWisdom
Hi, My hubby was diagnosed with severe chronic fatigue 11 years ago.  We recently went to an environmental doctor who ran specific blood tests on my husband for various chemical and heavy metal poisoning.  A General MD would not know how to run these tests.  He had literally hundreds of blood tests before this.   He was found to have an extremely high arsenic reading and linked it back to dipping sheep with his dad on the farm.

Before this he had had hair annalysis done and it never showed up arsenic, so not everything shows up in hair annalysis.

I am looking into using www.takarapatch.com foot patches to get the dangerous chemicals out of his body.  We have already tried the raw food diet for 6yrs+ and juice fasts, liver cleanses, kidney cleanses etc.  They made him 'healthy' everywhere else in his body but didn't get rid of the symptoms of the chemicals, although it did aleviate them somewhat and kept him alive.

Try and find a good doctor that runs blood tests on chemical toxicity and heavy metals before you jump to conclusions.  Know the cause then you will have some idea on how to treat your problem properly.

Trace
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2006, 09:42:23 PM » by Carolyn
I had an amalgom (mercury) filling removed when i was three months pregnant with my son and I think that contributed to his autism.  I myself have depression, chronic fatigue, achiness.  I will soon start seeing the same doctor my son sees (La Valle Metabolic Institute).  She is an OB who is now a DAN! doctor (Defeat Autism Now).  DAN! uses a comprehensive approach to autism that is usefull for ANYONE, it includes heavy metal testing and chelation, yeast and fungal gut problems, food allergies, supplements, special diets, and so much more, so I hope the following is helpful and at least a start towards finding info for yourself.

There is a very helpful chapter on chelation in the book Children With Starving Brains by Jaquelyn McCandless, that will outline the relationship between metals and yeast, chelation options, etc.  The whole book is fantastic.

Go to www.DefeatAutismNow.com for two reasons. First, there may be explanations there as well, and secondly there is a Practioners List to find a DAN! docter in your area.  This person may be able to treat you, or direct you to someone who can, and can definitely tell you where to get testing and chelation.

Also try AutismResearchInstitute.com....a site related to the above which might have good articles too.

We did our heavy metal testing with Doctors Data Lab www.doctorsdata.com.  It was a fecal (poop) metal test $99.  I know there are different kinds and that hair analysis is cheaper but not as reliable.  Remember that the results may show metals as low, which acutally means they are high in your body, and not being excreted to show up on the test results.

A great site for general alternative medical advice is Mercola.com.  You can do searches there so many things.

There are three types of chelation, intravenious (sp?), oral, and topical.  You will see the prefix TD (transdermal) for the lotion kind.  Some of the kinds are DMSA, EDTA, TD-DMPS.  We get DMSA from Lee Silsby Pharmacy 800-918-8831.

I agree that alternative medicine is very expensive.  We are going to try to switch to a Healthcare Savings Plan which will allow us to use the money we would ordinarily send to Humana to be put into an account and matched by our employer that will allow us to use the money as we please.  Maybe that's an opiton for you.

Please ignore the fact that all of this info is related to autism, its related to ALL of us who suffer.  There is so much more more to say but I should be reading more and responding less.  Best of luck.....and don't forget good ol prayers.

Carolyn

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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2006, 10:10:47 PM » by PMESguy
Here's my insight. You might not like what I'm about to say, so do what you want with this.

1) STOP focusing on your disease!!!! Focus on your health!! Put your energy into what you WANT, not what you DONT WANT. If you are always thinking about what you don't want...poor energy, fatigue, tests, diagnoses, etc...your are just going to get more of it. One reason why it is so challenging for you to get over your funk is that you keep asking for more of it!! This is called the Law of Attraction. If you haven't seen the movie The Secret....you really would benefit greatly from watching it....it might just save your life! www.thesecret.tv

2) If you see a ND, herbalist, or any other 'alternative medicine' speicalist for your problems and they use the allopatic approach of treating your symptoms....it is, in effect, no different than seeing a MD or western medical doctor. Sure they might swap an "all natural" remedy for drugs....but do they help provide you with a feasable solution that works toward addressing the root causes of your dis-eases?? If you have fatigue and heavy metal toxicity, would it not be unreasonable to ask why?? What purpose do your health challenges have in your life?? Who would you be with out them? Do you really want to be healthy....or just be NOT sick? There's a big difference there.

Good luck! Smiley

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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2006, 06:26:56 AM » by ILoveGodsWisdom
There is a fantastic product called liquid zeolites which very effectively  and safely removes mercury (and other toxins and heavy metals) from the body.  At this web site there is a testemony of woman obviously suffering from mercury poisoning who was recommended by her natural dentist to immediatly take the zeolites and it was very effectively almost instantly.

I have been researching this product for my husband who has chemical poisoning and it seems like an amazingly effective product that improves all aspects of health and increases the availability of other minerals like calcium etc while removing the toxiic elements from your body at cellular level.

See the testemonies at www.amazingandtrue.com .  Other information on them is found at www.drzeolitedetox.com , www.cancer-prevention.net and www.MyWaiora.com .  You basically have to become a distributor of the product to purchase it at 30% off.  Please note, I am NOT a distributor.  The company Waiora is the only one who sells it and has a US patent on this form of zeolite for internal consumption.  I would like to try it myself.  I am sure we all have heavy metals floating around in us, among many other chemicals used as pestacides on our foods, cleaning products, fly sprays etc.

Hope this will help some of you suffering from mercury or other poisonings.  We searched for years to find a product like this.  We tried juice fasting and cleansing diets to rid us of toxins but they don't work.  I know, because my husband had a blood test after doing all these things for years as well as doing a vegen raw food diet for five years and it didn't move his toxins.  I strongly believe a product like this would benifit most people. 

Tracy
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2006, 11:04:52 AM » by boysmama
I can relate to your frustrations Cheesy I have been in the exact same place minus the seizures.
I have had my mercury fillings replaced in the last six weeks. We see some major improvements and some smaller changes. It is too soon to say that this is the turning point, but we are hopeful. I have tried many diets and cures with some results but no lasting improvement.

I would recommend that you begin with dietary/lifestyle changes and an anti-yeast treatment to try to stabilize your body. Do everything necessary to make sure that all of your elimination/cleansing body functions are optimal. Do these things at least 6 weeks before you get any dental work done. Do research and choose carefully because there is the possibility of being in a hurry and ending up worse of than before.
We chose to research and read ourselves, do the tests we thought to be essential, and save most of the money for the actual dental work. We felt like our understanding was opened and that God led us to the right info. We have been able to do all this with the money we have and did not need to borrow any. It is amazing!!!
Please, please do research carefully. Do not hurry. We worked on this for more than a year before the pieces came together. I have had times of panic and fear. Don't do that Wink as it is counter productive.
I chose not to do chelation therapy immediately. As I understand it, there is a certain amount of heavy metals/toxins that can be excreted at a time. Mobilizing more than that can end up making things worse.Just removing the fillings triggered detox and cleansing for me. I was glad we had decided to do chelation in several steps. Once I feel like my body has stabilized I will use the liquid zeolites first.
IMO an anti-yeast treatment is good at anytime in this process. Treating will help balance things as much as possible and reduce the toxin load. I felt stronger and stabilized when treating for yeast even though I did not get complete control in several years. Now that the mercury fillings are gone I am seeing huge improvements. I used aggressive yeast control measures up to the day before dental work stopped for two days and then began again.
 
I would be glad to help in anyway. PM if you want more of the details of my experience. I may have some #s for doctors who are willing to help.
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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2007, 07:38:57 PM » by hodgy
Just wondering if you ever stabilized enough to do the zeolite?  I have some on order and am anxious to get started on it.  I had my fillings removed a week and a half ago and didn't realize the results of trying to do too much to detox until I started feeling really funky.  Then upon further study learned I was probaly mobilizing more mercury than I was excreting.  Therefore I have backed off the mobilizers and upped the excreters so to speak, and am hoping that will settle things down a bit.  I think the zeolite will bind to the mobilized mercury better than what I'm already using.  The tesimonials are wonderful but when things are being marketed they always sound too good to be true.  Therefore just wondering how things turned out from someone with experience, but no financial gain. 
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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2007, 02:17:35 PM » by boysmama
I never did get the zeolites. They are quite expensive and kept getting knocked out of the budget.  Sad
... Then dh got his amalgams removed and wanted to try  chlorella first. We got that and he does well with a small dose ( 1 gram 2x a day) but it was too much mobilization for me. I did a little betonite clay (once  Embarrassed) to help me get over the "funkiness"  Cheesy that the chlorella stirred up....
I would still like to do the zeolites, but I don't see getting them ordered before we try for another baby  Grin I have improved soooo much that we feel ok with letting it go for now. I really do feel GREAT. I guess it would take tests to determine if I am still carrying a mercury load. ( I suspect I do because of my reaction to the chlorella) I did detox heavily and steadily without taking any chelators and still am experiencing light detox cycles...
I really do think that the zeolites work well for some people - betonite clay is supposed to function in a similar way and is less expensive...sorry I don't have an experience to share. I do have a friend who is using it with her kids w/ great success and she is not connected to any financial gain from that product  Grin
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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2008, 05:02:35 PM » by Lucky Scrunchy
How does one know if they have mercury filling? I had most of my fillings done when I was a kid, like 30 years ago.
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« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2008, 07:07:32 AM » by hi_itsgwen
If your fillings are silvery colored, they are (most likely) Amalgam.  They are not pure mercury, but have mercury as one of the components. 
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« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2008, 12:47:28 PM » by momto4girls
Just wondering, what kinda metal is it when the filing is black?

I noticed my husband has silver fillings, but I also noticed that some of his feelings are completely black. Like his tooth was filled with charcoal. Does anyone know what's up with that?
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« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2008, 01:42:28 PM » by ladyhen
Just wondering, what kinda metal is it when the filing is black?

I noticed my husband has silver fillings, but I also noticed that some of his feelings are completely black. Like his tooth was filled with charcoal. Does anyone know what's up with that?

I would assume that the amalgam filling has oxidized.  As far as I have encountered, there are only amalgam (silver or dark grey) and composite (white) materials for filling teeth.
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« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2008, 07:29:30 PM » by boysmama
My amalgams had turned black. Underneath it was even worse. If they are old enough to be black you probably have leakage and caries underneath.  Tongue
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« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2008, 09:01:46 PM » by hi_itsgwen
I was going to suggest that it may be possible that the black is a dental cavity instead of a filling. 
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« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2008, 05:54:52 PM » by healthybratt

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How does one know if they have mercury filling? I had most of my fillings done when I was a kid, like 30 years ago.
If it's silver and 30 years old, you could pretty much assume, i would think.  Undecided
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« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2008, 03:22:12 PM » by 4lilkeepers
Can someone give me an idea of a plan for mercury detox?

some say don't do too much, do a yeast cleanse, oral chelate, don't oral chelate......etc....

Who do I go to get tested for mercury?  What kind of tests do I need to ask for?


I had an amalgam improperly removed over two weeks ago.  For the past week I have had mercury poision symptoms. I have had to stop nursing for fear I was giving it to my daughter.

What is a good regim to start so that I don't stir up mercury in my system?

Do I need to do a yeast cleanse first?

Any help would be appreciated.

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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2008, 05:51:52 PM » by prairiechild
I had two mercury fillings removed improperly about two years ago. I had horrible brain fog, fatigue, flu-like symptoms etc. I tried some different things, the most immediate thing I did that actually helped was bentonite baths. I also took some internally, though it was very constipating and I wouldn't really recommend it due to that.
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« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2009, 08:02:18 AM » by searchforhealth
I am wondering if I have heavy metal poisoning of some kind.  At times I have trouble getting hydrated no matter how much water I drink and have a metallic taste in my mouth.  After reading all this I'm thinking I need to get my amalgam filings replaced.  I am currently doing a yeast cleanse and am wondering if I should quit until the filings are removed.  Any advice is greatly appreciated!
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