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  Diagnose Me, Please...These Are My Symptoms
« on: November 16, 2006, 10:51:18 AM » by healthybratt

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I'm starting a thread for symptoms and diagnosis.  If you really don't know what's wrong and you need some ideas to figure it out, list your symptoms here and someone can hopefully give you an idea and maybe a couple of links to help you get started feeling better.

Lets try to keep this thread limited to symptoms and redirects to keep it from getting too long and to keep useful information which would normally otherwise be found under topic from getting lost when this thread is purged.  There are a lot of threads on here with the healing information already, so if you know what/where it is, please just reply with the appropriate link.  If it's something that hasn't yet been discussed, maybe we'll start another thread.

A good conversation might look something like this

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Hi, I've been having recurring skin rashes.  I also have digestive upset, fatigue, brain fog & I'm currently taking meds for depression.  I eat alot of bread and pasta and know I should be eating better, but I often crave these foods.  I also take vitamins but they really aren't helping much.

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Wow!  I think this sounds like classic symptoms of candida/leaky gut.  If it were me, I'd research these conditions further to see if that's indeed what I needed to treat for.  Here's a link to get you started.

http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,2698.0.html


Keep in mind, none of us are qualified doctors or have any license to make official diagnosis.  All claims made on this thread are for the reader to be able to assess their own condition based on the experiences and research of others.

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  Re: Diagnose Me, Please...These Are My Symptoms
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2008, 01:31:27 PM » by HelpmeetPlusHelpers
I have been trying to look up information about heavy metal toxicity. I recently took a class on how to detox. I think I have issues with mercury or some other type of heavy metal. I have ALL (chronic pain, brain fog, chronic infections like candida, gastrointestinal complaints, dizziness, migraines, mood swings, depression, anxiety, numbness, tingling, etc)  the possible symptoms. I don't have fillings in my mouth. My parents fed us very well and I still have a good diet. The whole class was old info to me, yet I still have all these symptoms. The one thing I do have is herrington rods in my back. They are titanium, but the hooks and screws might not be. How to I go about finding out? I no longer know where my orthopedic surgeon is. I am kind of at a loss. Can some one help me please? I am not sure how to detox from these things with all my other health issues and I don't know that it would help if I still have the rods in. What do you think? Can you point me in the right direction?
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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2008, 03:09:49 PM » by ladyhen
I have been trying to look up information about heavy metal toxicity. I recently took a class on how to detox. I think I have issues with mercury or some other type of heavy metal. I have ALL (chronic pain, brain fog, chronic infections like candida, gastrointestinal complaints, dizziness, migraines, mood swings, depression, anxiety, numbness, tingling, etc)  the possible symptoms. I don't have fillings in my mouth. My parents fed us very well and I still have a good diet. The whole class was old info to me, yet I still have all these symptoms. The one thing I do have is herrington rods in my back. They are titanium, but the hooks and screws might not be. How to I go about finding out? I no longer know where my orthopedic surgeon is. I am kind of at a loss. Can some one help me please? I am not sure how to detox from these things with all my other health issues and I don't know that it would help if I still have the rods in. What do you think? Can you point me in the right direction?

I think your first step would be to find out IF you have metal toxicity and, if so, what metals.  There are different steps of cleansing and different herbs that are specific to different metals.  Have you had a hair analysis?  And blood work or testing of any kind?   Those symptoms can indicate many other things, as well.   As far as the screws in the rod, I would think that you might be able to contact the hospital for that information. 
If they don't have your records, they could probably tell you who the medical appliance supplier was at that time.
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  Re: Diagnose Me, Please...These Are My Symptoms
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2008, 04:16:23 PM » by HelpmeetPlusHelpers
Thank you. Those are great ideas! I will start there.  Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2008, 08:55:14 AM » by healthybratt

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I have ALL (chronic pain, brain fog, chronic infections like candida, gastrointestinal complaints, dizziness, migraines, mood swings, depression, anxiety, numbness, tingling, etc)  the possible symptoms.

I Think I Have Candida and/or Leaky Gut:  What Now?
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  Re: Diagnose Me, Please...These Are My Symptoms
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2008, 02:03:06 PM » by HelpmeetPlusHelpers
I did a candida cleanse last summer. That's why I said this:
chronic infections like candida
Even at that do you think I should do another cleanse? I have been considering trying to do the Master cleanse. I usually get REALLY weak and dizzy with out food often. I was concerned, but I figure that I could do it for as long as possible. What do you think?
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  Re: Diagnose Me, Please...These Are My Symptoms
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2008, 03:41:38 PM » by beppyjo
Roughly 2 months ago my then 9 mo ds fell and hit his head. Cry DH was holding him while sitting in a folding chair. DS made a lunge for me and DH wasn't able to catch him before he hit the floor. DS cried for a second then held his breath.. only I didn't realize that he was holding his breath. His little eyes rolled back a little and he went limp. Shocked He didn't completely pass out. Anyhow, I watched him closely after that and he had no signs of concussion or anything but was very cuddly and quiet the rest of the eve. Since that time I have noticed that he will randomly start hitting his head(not hard) against the window, door, or me. I don't know if it is coincidence or not. Now this weekend when we were at my folks he was playing tag with me. He is 11 mo and walks and tries to run. He was chasing me and slipped on the linoleum. He went down rather slow - first to his knees, then his bottom, then over backwards and bonked his head. It wasn't a hard bonk. My Mom picked him up and his crying turned to screaming then he held his breath. I finally put water on his face because he was turning purple and going limp. Shocked He started breathing again and was very subdued for quite awhile after that. Do you suppose this is something I should be concerned about or just something he is going to do occasionally?  Huh He has hit his head other times and not done this and he gets mad often and doesn't do this. My other kids have never done anything like this so I am rather at a loss. I have an appt with our family dr for DS's 1yr well baby but wanted to know the opinion of you all first. Thanks!  Kiss
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  Re: Diagnose Me, Please...These Are My Symptoms
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2008, 10:40:45 PM » by crystal
Roughly 2 months ago my then 9 mo ds fell and hit his head. Cry DH was holding him while sitting in a folding chair. DS made a lunge for me and DH wasn't able to catch him before he hit the floor. DS cried for a second then held his breath.. only I didn't realize that he was holding his breath. His little eyes rolled back a little and he went limp. Shocked He didn't completely pass out. Anyhow, I watched him closely after that and he had no signs of concussion or anything but was very cuddly and quiet the rest of the eve. Since that time I have noticed that he will randomly start hitting his head(not hard) against the window, door, or me. I don't know if it is coincidence or not. Now this weekend when we were at my folks he was playing tag with me. He is 11 mo and walks and tries to run. He was chasing me and slipped on the linoleum. He went down rather slow - first to his knees, then his bottom, then over backwards and bonked his head. It wasn't a hard bonk. My Mom picked him up and his crying turned to screaming then he held his breath. I finally put water on his face because he was turning purple and going limp. Shocked He started breathing again and was very subdued for quite awhile after that. Do you suppose this is something I should be concerned about or just something he is going to do occasionally?  Huh He has hit his head other times and not done this and he gets mad often and doesn't do this. My other kids have never done anything like this so I am rather at a loss. I have an appt with our family dr for DS's 1yr well baby but wanted to know the opinion of you all first. Thanks!  Kiss
Hey, neighbor!  Smiley

Thought I would add my 2 cents worth.  Is ds normal, otherwise?  Eating, sleeping, interacting, vocalizing?  How do his eyes look?  What advice and words of wisdom do your dh and mom have?  I know that, sometimes, dh has a much better handle on things, than I.  I tend to get emotionally involved.  I'm not saying that YOU can't be objective.  I just know that I can't always be so. 

Also, when is the dr appointment?  How far out? 
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  Re: Diagnose Me, Please...These Are My Symptoms
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2008, 10:58:34 PM » by here2serve
My dd just turned 5. Shes been dealing with eczema since she was 2. Its not as bad any more as it was that first year, but she still does not have smooth, soft, girly skin. Last week she had 'this' pea sized outbreak?-sore-scab type thing on her cheek. I questioned her about it and she said nothing happened, as in, no injury. And she said she didn't scratch it either which she does a lot of, due to her eczema. It was painful to the touch. Every day 'this' thing grew a little, covering her cheek. I was watching it and putting on some salve I made, then also some Eden salve.( I just figured its her eczema flaring up again, which it does every once in a while. )We went to our cabin for the weekend, no phone or internet service, and just got back tonight, and she has 'this' rash/scaley stuff ALL over her body!! Her left cheek where it all started is now slightly swollen too. Anybody have any clue what is going on?? I plan to take her to our family doc in the morning, but don't really want her on antibiotics, or steroids and the like...
          Thanks, ~A.
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  Re: Diagnose Me, Please...These Are My Symptoms
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2008, 06:43:30 AM » by littlemama24

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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2008, 07:42:29 AM » by ndmomof6
My dd just turned 5. Shes been dealing with eczema since she was 2. Its not as bad any more as it was that first year, but she still does not have smooth, soft, girly skin. Last week she had 'this' pea sized outbreak?-sore-scab type thing on her cheek. I questioned her about it and she said nothing happened, as in, no injury. And she said she didn't scratch it either which she does a lot of, due to her eczema. It was painful to the touch. Every day 'this' thing grew a little, covering her cheek. I was watching it and putting on some salve I made, then also some Eden salve.( I just figured its her eczema flaring up again, which it does every once in a while. )We went to our cabin for the weekend, no phone or internet service, and just got back tonight, and she has 'this' rash/scaley stuff ALL over her body!! Her left cheek where it all started is now slightly swollen too. Anybody have any clue what is going on?? I plan to take her to our family doc in the morning, but don't really want her on antibiotics, or steroids and the like...
          Thanks, ~A.

Ringworm? 
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  Re: Diagnose Me, Please...These Are My Symptoms
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2008, 08:36:26 AM » by KristenA

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My dd just turned 5. Shes been dealing with eczema since she was 2. Its not as bad any more as it was that first year, but she still does not have smooth, soft, girly skin. Last week she had 'this' pea sized outbreak?-sore-scab type thing on her cheek. I questioned her about it and she said nothing happened, as in, no injury. And she said she didn't scratch it either which she does a lot of, due to her eczema. It was painful to the touch. Every day 'this' thing grew a little, covering her cheek. I was watching it and putting on some salve I made, then also some Eden salve.( I just figured its her eczema flaring up again, which it does every once in a while. )We went to our cabin for the weekend, no phone or internet service, and just got back tonight, and she has 'this' rash/scaley stuff ALL over her body!! Her left cheek where it all started is now slightly swollen too. Anybody have any clue what is going on?? I plan to take her to our family doc in the morning, but don't really want her on antibiotics, or steroids and the like...
          Thanks, ~A.

Does this sound familiar? http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,11969.msg175257.html#msg175257
Read from the above post, all the way to the end (less than a page).

Also, this information was not included:
When the rash first appeared, it was small, and on the bottom. It slowly spread to thighs, upper back, and tummy. Salves seemed to make it worse. That led me to think it could have been fungal.
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  Re: Diagnose Me, Please...These Are My Symptoms
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2008, 02:12:09 PM » by healthybratt

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I did a candida cleanse last summer. That's why I said this:
chronic infections like candida
Even at that do you think I should do another cleanse? I have been considering trying to do the Master cleanse. I usually get REALLY weak and dizzy with out food often. I was concerned, but I figure that I could do it for as long as possible. What do you think?
I see people often post this and I'm not really sure how to answer.  When I hear someone say "I did a cleanse last week, or last month, or last summer", this indicates to me, that you decided for a couple of weeks that you changed your diet, maybe took some supplements and called it good.  I'm not sure if that applies to you, but that is what I perceive from these types of posts (don't worry, you're not the only one Grin ).

So if this is the case, then I need to let you know that if you are chronic candida case, then a couple of weeks or even a couple of months, just probably won't cut it.  Getting rid of systemic yeast is a long, tedious process.  It doesn't have to be difficult, but it takes patience and lifestyle changes.

If you have food allergies, you have to identify and avoid them.  If you use birthcontrol pills, antibiotics or other over-the-counter meds that might aggravate your condition, then you have to eliminate them.

If you are a carb junkie, you have to learn to control and eliminate the carb cravings and replace them in your diet with ample good fats and good unrefined carbs.

You also have to heal the gut from the damage that yeast can leave behind (LGS).  This can take many weeks, many months and even a few years to reverse especially if you're not consistent with your treatments and healing and LGS will cause the symptoms of candida to remain, because although they are not the same condition, they have a cause/effect relationship and the symptoms that are associated with candida, are in fact directly caused by the LGS which is caused by the candida.

You also have to replace all of the healthy bacteria and organisms that were killed off prior to the candida condition.  If you fail to do this through supplementation and diet changes (fermented foods), then the yeast will just continue to come back again and again and again.

So all this to say, if you treated for a short time and your symptoms returned, then the short answer is yes, you need to do it again, but you need to do it longer and be sure not to leave out anything that might impede you in your journey back to health.

HTH
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  Re: Diagnose Me, Please...These Are My Symptoms
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2008, 02:29:01 PM » by beppyjo
Roughly 2 months ago my then 9 mo ds fell and hit his head. Cry DH was holding him while sitting in a folding chair. DS made a lunge for me and DH wasn't able to catch him before he hit the floor. DS cried for a second then held his breath.. only I didn't realize that he was holding his breath. His little eyes rolled back a little and he went limp. Shocked He didn't completely pass out. Anyhow, I watched him closely after that and he had no signs of concussion or anything but was very cuddly and quiet the rest of the eve. Since that time I have noticed that he will randomly start hitting his head(not hard) against the window, door, or me. I don't know if it is coincidence or not. Now this weekend when we were at my folks he was playing tag with me. He is 11 mo and walks and tries to run. He was chasing me and slipped on the linoleum. He went down rather slow - first to his knees, then his bottom, then over backwards and bonked his head. It wasn't a hard bonk. My Mom picked him up and his crying turned to screaming then he held his breath. I finally put water on his face because he was turning purple and going limp. Shocked He started breathing again and was very subdued for quite awhile after that. Do you suppose this is something I should be concerned about or just something he is going to do occasionally?  Huh He has hit his head other times and not done this and he gets mad often and doesn't do this. My other kids have never done anything like this so I am rather at a loss. I have an appt with our family dr for DS's 1yr well baby but wanted to know the opinion of you all first. Thanks!  Kiss
Hey, neighbor!  Smiley

Thought I would add my 2 cents worth.  Is ds normal, otherwise?  Eating, sleeping, interacting, vocalizing?  How do his eyes look?  What advice and words of wisdom do your dh and mom have?  I know that, sometimes, dh has a much better handle on things, than I.  I tend to get emotionally involved.  I'm not saying that YOU can't be objective.  I just know that I can't always be so. 

Also, when is the dr appointment?  How far out? 
Hi Crystal, Thanks for the reply!

 He is acting pretty normal otherwise. His eyes look normal. My Mom is the one who encouraged me to take him in. I had been toying around with whether or not to do a 1yr check but after the second episode thought I probably should. DH is in full support of it. DH doesn't think that the random head bonking on walls, etc..... is connected, but he doesn't like the passing out thing. Our appt is on Thurs @ 1:30. 

 Sometimes I think that I am concerned over nothing and sometimes I start overanalyzing everything DS does and start getting really worried. I'll update on Thurs......
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  Re: Diagnose Me, Please...These Are My Symptoms
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2008, 02:29:14 PM » by mrs_meschke
my youngest son has had similar problems..."outbreaks" mostly staying on his cheeks. initially i would just put cream/lotion on it, which never really seemed to help. then i thought it could be sugar/flour related (bad yeast feeds on sugar) so when his face was looking bad i cut out sugar and gave him about 1/2 teaspoon of coconut oil two or three times a day (virgin unrefined coconut oil has natural lauric acid, with is antifungal). this has worked every time for me, within as little as a day, though there have been times it has taken a couple days to fully clear up (when it is really bad). this may or may not be the case with your daughter. on the whole, my kids have a pretty low sugar intake. we eat lots of yogurt, in which they may put homemade granola or a small amount of fruit spread. occassionally (weekly at times) we make cookies or other treats......though [confession!] the times his face starts looking bad are times i have gone a little nuts with baking (and consuming!) sweets or my husband has gotten candy from the bulk bins at the health food store.

my dad has had recurring eczema problems (his hands would dry out terribly and he would end up with deep cracks and cuts that would take a long time to heal). he would put aquaphor on his hands, rubber gloves, etc, but nothing solved the problem. then a few years ago he went on the south beach diet (no sugar or grains for first two weeks). his eczema cleared up almost immediately and stays gone as long as his sugar consumption stays low. his eczema is definitely fungal, as it doesn't come on the instant his sugar consumption goes up, but gets worse over time (i.e. the fungus "feeds" on the sugar and gets stronger and stronger).

so, my prognosis (or leaning for these types of symptoms) is that your daughter's skin problem is probably yeast/fungus related. you can cut sugar (watch out because it's everywhere...i would even say don't do juice for a while and add it back very slowly) and give her virgin unrefined coconut oil--about 1/2 teaspoon to 1 teaspoon two to three times a day. if she consumes little to no sugar right now, you could sprinkle some "yeast assasin" (from beeyoutiful.com) on her food for the next week to speed the dying off of the yeast/fungus. as the yeast/fungus is dying, she may have a few skin spots (dry crusty patches) where the dead yeast/fungus is coming out, though this may not happen (i'm just alerting you in case it does happen so you don't worry). if you are looking to improve her skin quality, i would suggest you find a recipe online for a sugar scrub (sugar is fine ON the skin, just not IN her body when she's having problems) and have her help you make it and then she can have fun "scrubbing" herself in the bath. or you could add a couple tablespoons of coconut oil (still the unrefined stuff so the lauric acid and other good properties haven't been killed by high heat, i.e. refining) and scrub her with a loofa or something to encourage the rough skin to shed and stimulate growth of new skin. the coconut oil should leave her skin soft and will completely absorb into her skin by morning.

i may be giving you more information than you want or telling you things that you already know or have tried...i tend to be a "long talker", but i usually like too much information more than not having enough. hopefully this will get you started.  
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  Re: Diagnose Me, Please...These Are My Symptoms
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2008, 07:45:48 AM » by ndmomof6
I wasn't sure where to put this, so I'll put it here....I need some help in figuring out what's going on with DH.  For the past week he has not been able to sleep at night.  He is extremely tired when he gets home (he has a very physical job and has been very busy).  He'll eat, play with the children or do something around the house or outside and then shower and go to bed.  He will sleep pretty well until midnight or so and then is up til 4 and then falls asleep again, but has to get up at 6 to go to work.

He doesn't drink any caffeine, but he does eat a lot of junk at work.  We're gluten, casein, soy, egg, nut, legume free here, so don't I don't think it's something that we're eating at home.  (We've been on this diet for a while, so I don't think it's the change).

I've tried sleepy time tincture, lavender baths and rubs, and s*x , but he's still not able to sleep.  Poor guy is a walking zombie from working all day and not getting good rest at night.

Any suggestions?
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  Re: Diagnose Me, Please...These Are My Symptoms
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2008, 07:53:56 AM » by SarahLaRae
Could he be stressed out?
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« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2008, 07:59:07 AM » by ndmomof6
I've asked him if there is something going on at work or here at home that is bothering him, but he says no.  I've also asked if the Lord has been working on him in some area, but he says he doesn't think so.

We are starting an addictions program at our church and I thought maybe he was stressing about that, but he denies that also.

So, I don't think it's stress related from what he's been telling me.
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  Re: Diagnose Me, Please...These Are My Symptoms
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2008, 08:05:18 AM » by SarahLaRae
What about being over stimulated.  I know if I do a lot in a day, or go visiting , or stay up late and I don't do anything to relax before I go to bed (like read a book) then I won't sleep well through the night.
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« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2008, 08:14:26 AM » by floydian
I've asked him if there is something going on at work or here at home that is bothering him, but he says no.  I've also asked if the Lord has been working on him in some area, but he says he doesn't think so.

We are starting an addictions program at our church and I thought maybe he was stressing about that, but he denies that also.

So, I don't think it's stress related from what he's been telling me.


I don't know how different supplements affect men like they do women.  OK, I totally didn't say that right, but I stayed up late and the coffee hasn't done its job yet. Roll Eyes

Anyhoo, if I am not getting enough calcium and magnesium I don't sleep as well.  And probably getting enough other stuff too, I just recognize it when I'm low in those two.  I wondered about that when you mentioned yall were gfcf.  If he isn't getting any calcium from being CF, then maybe that's a factor.
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  Re: Diagnose Me, Please...These Are My Symptoms
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2008, 09:20:43 AM » by ndmomof6
I've asked him if there is something going on at work or here at home that is bothering him, but he says no.  I've also asked if the Lord has been working on him in some area, but he says he doesn't think so.

We are starting an addictions program at our church and I thought maybe he was stressing about that, but he denies that also.

So, I don't think it's stress related from what he's been telling me.


I don't know how different supplements affect men like they do women.  OK, I totally didn't say that right, but I stayed up late and the coffee hasn't done its job yet. Roll Eyes

Anyhoo, if I am not getting enough calcium and magnesium I don't sleep as well.  And probably getting enough other stuff too, I just recognize it when I'm low in those two.  I wondered about that when you mentioned yall were gfcf.  If he isn't getting any calcium from being CF, then maybe that's a factor.

Thanks floydian!  I never thought about giving him some Bone Ami.  (duh! Roll Eyes  It's what I take when I can't sleep).  And we use goat milk, so we get some calcium.
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  Re: Diagnose Me, Please...These Are My Symptoms
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2008, 09:23:12 PM » by here2serve
Thanks, ladies for all your suggestions! The doc diagnosed it as Imetigo. Of all things. She had Imetigo 2 summers ago, but it looked VERY different then what she has now. Shes on antibiotics  Roll Eyes cuz the doc was rather alarmed with how fast it spread. Kinda delt with defeat that day, but I was encouraged by all your replies, and reading the Imetigo thread. I seriously want to build up her immune system, and work on her eczema more. She eats very healthy, in fact could probably live on fruit and yogurt, which is home made and flavored with maple syrup. I've been thinking of putting her on a God food diet...
   Any more suggestions?? I want to get her on a good vit. C, and have an herbal tea mix from the bulk herb store that is supposed to be a cleanser. At this point I'm giving her cod liver oil, galic/honey, lots of yogurt, and a probiotic that I got from Puritans Pride. I'd like to get some from beeyoutiful or somewhere else, just so I know it's the best. Not sure always how good the stuff it from PP, 'cause of how cheap it is...
    I think both dd 3, and dd 1 have it too!!  Cry Cry Oh sigh.....
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« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2008, 10:28:27 PM » by here2serve
 I forgot to mention that I did the sugar scrub, (thanks for the tip, Mrs. Meschke) after her bath tonight, and then put GOOT on before she went to bed. The GOOT seemed to burn her sores that had bled, but not the crusty ones.
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« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2008, 11:22:08 AM » by pljammie
Ladies, I have  a sick little boy.  He went to the doc yesterday and was swabbed for strep (fast lab was negative).  His little friend is in ICU with epiglottitis and the doc said if any of my kids get sick to come right in(We were all on vacation together).  We think he has the same bug as the little boy in the hospital.  If he coughs it sounds like croup, but he doesn't cough much like a kid with croup.  His breathing is noisy and earlier this morning he ran across the pasture and sounded awful and had a great deal of trouble breathing.  It has been over an hour since then and now his breathing is still noisy, but he doesn't seem to be having trouble, just noisy.  I have an appointment at 4:00 if I need it...but I'm not sure what to do to treat him and decide if I need to see the doc again...

He has
99.5-101.5
tiny rash over his head and face (like mini-goose bumps)
fever for 2 days
sore throat
barking seal like cough (he is not coughing much at all...maybe 3-4 times)
noisy breathing
trouble breathing with exertion, like running
trouble breathing when I did the steamy shower thing that is normal for croup
says his head hurts

I have done the following for him:
500 mg. vit. c
fluids

I have the following, but haven't used them:
a script for prednisone (the doc was concerned that about the rash and thought is was an allergic reaction)
a script for an antibiotic (in case the strep culture grows and the fast lab was wrong)

Normally, I would just think he had a cold, but the trouble breathing worried me.  He was an RSV baby so I tend to be worried about anything wheezy.  Also, the friend on the ventilator is concerning me...

Do you think goot would help?  Can I give more vit. C?  any thoughts on how to get the fluids down, don't want to do popsicles because of the sugar.

Jammie
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« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2008, 11:30:32 AM » by littlemama24

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Not sure where you live, but I know measles is outbreaking in my neck of the woods.  According to Wikipedia the symptoms don't always include the rash but if it does it usually starts on the head.  Cough, runny nose, and red eyes are the other symptoms.  Here's the link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measles#Symptoms

I hope he feels well soon, I get worried to when the little guys are sick.  Try not to be fearful.  You might keep that appointment and try to get a better diagnosis just to rule out the scary stuff and then decide for yourself how you'll treat it IMO.  HTH
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« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2008, 12:05:11 PM » by pljammie
Thanks for the info...I have never known anyone to have measles.  Thanks for the link to read about it.


Jammie
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« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2008, 12:25:08 PM » by 4myhoonie
Ladies, I have  a sick little boy.  He went to the doc yesterday and was swabbed for strep (fast lab was negative).  His little friend is in ICU with epiglottitis and the doc said if any of my kids get sick to come right in(We were all on vacation together).  We think he has the same bug as the little boy in the hospital.  If he coughs it sounds like croup, but he doesn't cough much like a kid with croup.  His breathing is noisy and earlier this morning he ran across the pasture and sounded awful and had a great deal of trouble breathing.  It has been over an hour since then and now his breathing is still noisy, but he doesn't seem to be having trouble, just noisy.  I have an appointment at 4:00 if I need it...but I'm not sure what to do to treat him and decide if I need to see the doc again...

He has
99.5-101.5
tiny rash over his head and face (like mini-goose bumps)
fever for 2 days
sore throat
barking seal like cough (he is not coughing much at all...maybe 3-4 times)
noisy breathing
trouble breathing with exertion, like running
trouble breathing when I did the steamy shower thing that is normal for croup
says his head hurts

I have done the following for him:
500 mg. vit. c
fluids

I have the following, but haven't used them:
a script for prednisone (the doc was concerned that about the rash and thought is was an allergic reaction)
a script for an antibiotic (in case the strep culture grows and the fast lab was wrong)

Normally, I would just think he had a cold, but the trouble breathing worried me.  He was an RSV baby so I tend to be worried about anything wheezy.  Also, the friend on the ventilator is concerning me...

Do you think goot would help?  Can I give more vit. C?  any thoughts on how to get the fluids down, don't want to do popsicles because of the sugar.

Jammie

do yo have any berrywell or similar elderberry syrup?  that stuff worked wonders for my little guy once.  i also think GOOT is awesome and it can't hurt to try.  maybe some juice popcicles, or kefir or yogurt  smoothie and you could freeze that into popcicles too.  some chicken soup with added garlic and ginger and chopped onion is wonderful too.  hope he gets well soon.
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« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2008, 10:11:27 PM » by joyful_mommy03
My husband is finally at a point where he might want to do something about how he is feeling lately.  I think I have a plan in mind, but would like some help making sure its the right place to start.

Overall Symptoms:  almost constant cold-like symptoms such as
  *runny nose
  *tired, can't think straight
  *sneezing
  *itchy nose
  *watery eyes, etc.

Here are my thoughts on how to proceed -
  *colon cleanse
  *liver cleanse
  *gallbladder cleanse
  *yeast killing cleanse/diet
  *weed out foods he may be allergic to such as milk/dairy

We were married almost 5 years ago and I remember being amazed back then about how often he got a cold.  It used to be about every two months for about 4 to 7 days that he was sick with those overall symptoms - he's almost never sick with flu-like symptoms.  But now, he's sick for over a week, then he gets a day or two break and then he's feeling sick again.  It hasn't been a very gradual change either.  It seems like just in the last few months things have really gotten this bad.

I have wanted to do some cleanses or diet altering, but every time I sort of quietly mention it, he says no.  I do not want to be the health-nag so I just drop it.  Every time he feels sick, I ask gently if he might be ready to try something new and he just says "maybe next time".  Well, this weekend, he finally asked me to research what was really involved in what I want to do.  I told him it would not be fun, that it would taste terrible and that he might feel much worse for a while before he feels better - did he still want me to research?  He said he still wanted me to figure it all out and give him a grand plan ... so here I am.  He may still say "no way" in the end, but it's worth trying to figure out.


It seems like the organs in his body that process toxins may need some cleaning out.  There is a possiblity that maybe his diet needs improvement - I noticed HB said on one thread that as our bodies age, we become allergic to dairy because the body loses the ability to break it down.  He may also be suffering from yeast - so a yeast cleanse for a while may be in order.

Seems to me that if the colon and liver and gall bladder are not processing well, nothing else we do will have great results.  If we kill off a bunch of yeast and toxins and then ask a sick liver/colon/gallbladder to get rid of it, we can't really expect it to work.  So I was going to start him with a colon cleanse, then liver then gallbladder - working backwards from how the organs work together.  Am I right that the process goes from the gallbladder to the liver and then to the colon?

I'll research the cleanses and what they entail on the other very informational threads, just wanted to make sure I should start there.

Then, I think I move to a yeast killing cleanse/diet.  I don't know if it would be smart to do that immediately after the colon/liver/gallbladder cleanses or wait a little while.  I think I would want to do it immediately since that's when the organs would be the cleanest but maybe they need a break before processing the yeast die-off.

I would definitely give it a break after that and if he still is sick often (although I would assume by then he would at least be sick less frequently), then move to diet modification.  Probably, he'll decide to do some diet modification on his own after the yeast cleanse because hopefully he won't crave the things he used to.

In the back of his mind, like most of us probably, he'd like to take a super vitamin, do a three day cleanse and be done and feeling better for the rest of his life.  I told him it wouldn't go that way, but that's what I'm up against.  I'm so glad he's finally at the point of at least wanting me to really do the research.  I am NOT going to nag him in anyway - I'm going to lay out the plan I figure out and let him pick and choose what he'd like to do - hoping he does all of it.

Sorry for the ridiculously LOOOOOOOONG post - but it's just so important and I didn't know what details to leave out!!!!

Thanks so much for any help!!!!
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« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2008, 09:04:28 AM » by joyful_mommy03
BUmp!  Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on my last post ...
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« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2008, 09:20:37 AM » by ndmomof6
BUmp!  Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on my last post ...

It looks to me like you're on the right track. 

I would definitely start by getting rid of dairy and probably gluten (wheat, barley, rye, oats, etc).  Check out the GF/CF threads.  Threre's TONS of info there.

I would also recommend having him drink 8 oz of water with the juice of 1/2 lemon squeezed in it first thing in the morning...wait at least 20 minutes before eating or drinking anything.  That's great for cleansing the liver.
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