Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs

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« Reply #30 on: May 24, 2006, 02:37:00 PM » by petrimama

Hooray! Thank you so much. In the past week my list of resources (people who do things naturally and have enough product or knowledge to go around) has quadrupled. I really appreciate your help. ~L

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Re: Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs
« Reply #31 on: May 29, 2006, 03:48:09 PM » by ForeverGirl

Thank you, Threeboysmyjoys!

That was a great post - very useful!

We visited a bee farm in Memphis this week, and it was so interesting to watch the keeper interact with his bees. I can't wait to do more cooking with honey!

Rebekah

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Re: Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs
« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2006, 03:54:22 PM » by PurplePen

Is clover honey okay? That's all they carry at Safeway. I found Really Raw Honey at Wild Oats though, but it was soooo expensive!!! What's the difference between the two? Is raw honey better or just more $$$?

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Re: Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs
« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2006, 09:34:30 PM » by Julie G

I am by no means a honey expert...I know there are some on here. But here's to my limited knowledge of honey. Unless it specifically says raw honey it has been heated to at least 140 - 160 degrees, which kills some of the nutritional value found naturally in the honey. The Really Raw Honey you asked about, I'm not familiar with, though I know some people on this forum have used it. At first I was using regular clover honey, but kept my eyes open and lo and behold, I came across raw honey....

Here is a quote regarding raw honey....From this site http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=96

...the processing of honey often removes many of the phytonutrients found in raw honey as it exists in the hive.

There's more good honey information on the site worth reading....best of luck to you.

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Re: Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2006, 09:55:30 AM » by MQM

The Vitamin Shoppe sells a natural liquid extract Propolis. I was so intrigued and curious I grabbed some. (Yes, I'm crazy! Wink

) I'd never seen it before and now I'm wondering, how do you use it? Or rather, DO you use it? Grin

It has a fermented odor to it (IMO). Is that normal? And it is pasty, kind of like wax, though. Can you use it for wounds? It's perfectly okay to consume, even though it smells yucky? How do you use it in foods?

The container says suggested use is "1/2 tsp twice a day between meals, or more as needed. High potency Extract is better assimilated with honey."

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Re: Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2006, 06:57:21 PM » by petrimama

The regular stuff is pretty waxy. Sounds like maybe it's for people who can't buy raw honey if they suggest mixing it in. My raw honey has it right on top. Any one else wanna guess? ~L

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Re: Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs
« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2006, 06:03:27 PM » by petrimama

Okay, Rebekah wrote about a healthy immune boosting snack she makes by drizzling honey & cinnamon over buttered toast and broiling until crisp. I have often done the same thing, only without broiling it because I assumed that the extreme heat would kill the good critters in the raw honey. Is broiled raw honey still raw? ~L

I just want to add that I'm really interested in learning about this and I am not trying to sound uppity. I hate typing because it is completely devoid of attitude clarity. Undecided

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Re: Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs
« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2006, 06:09:27 PM » by mexmarr

Quote from: petrimama on December 22, 2006, 06:03:27 PM

I hate typing because it is completely devoid of attitude clarity. Undecided

That's why we have all the smilely faces! Wink

Good question! I wondered the same thing. Though I would think that broiled honey would be better than no honey.

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Re: Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs
« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2006, 06:54:41 PM » by Pastorswife2B

well I have no answer to the pertinent question, but I do have an alternative method of making this snack if you desire the crustiness of toasted bread. We always make it by toasting/broiling the bread before we put the honey on it, then you have warm bread and cinnamon and no Honey issues.

-Heather

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Re: Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs
« Reply #39 on: December 22, 2006, 10:12:11 PM » by boysmama

We mix butter, honey, and cinnamon together and then spread it on toast, biscuits, cornbread, or just plain bread... we are starting to use our "butter spread" or plain honey more than strawberry jam!! Shocked

Just another alternative method

I didn't like to broil the honey (or butter) either Undecided

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Re: Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs
« Reply #40 on: December 23, 2006, 03:03:12 PM » by petrimama

Hmm....I think I'll try to contact the bee people around here to see if anyone has any exact temp./length of time it would take to kill it. Thanks for the input. I'll let you know what I find out. ~L

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« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2007, 11:00:03 PM » by mommie

so whats the difference between clover, alfalfa, basswood...honeys??? anyone better than the other...so is raw honey important...I bought natural and pure honey but its not raw??? Not as good? Is it still worth anything...I just saw you can get honey from ebay at what looks like a really good price??? any ideas anyone>

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Re: Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs
« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2007, 11:21:29 PM » by Whiterock

The different kinds of honey (clover, etc.) indicates the kind of flower the bees got most of the nectar from to make that honey.

The only one worth a dime to me is raw, dark, wildflower honey. Now I must admit that I have not tasted every other kind so I may change my mind someday, but the wildflower honey is the only one that tastes like the honey my grandpa used to get from his bees. Yummm. My sister wont even eat honey anymore because she says it doesn't taste as good as it used to when we were growing up... I think its the difference between wildflower honey and the rest. Besides, I'd like to think that wildflower honey has fewer of the sprays and such that they use on the crops the other honeys come from.

I'd use the honey you already have to cook with and look for raw honey in your local stores (we get ours from the local Kroger's healthfood section) or ask around to find a beekeeper.

WR

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Re: Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs
« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2007, 11:29:32 PM » by daisey

I'm not a honey expert but I do know that if you can find someone locally that has bees you get way more health benefits. Something about the bees producing antibodies that are specific for the area they are in. We have a bee man about a mile away and every year I take him a couple of gallon jars and he fills them with the raw honey so it hasn't been heated to destroy the antibodies.
Good luck
Daisey

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Re: Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs
« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2007, 11:35:40 PM » by mommie

to find a honey farmer near me....hmmm...well. I've done some research on the web we'll see what I can find...is organic necessary with honey?

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Re: Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs
« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2007, 11:41:19 PM » by Whiterock

I've never seen honey that was labled organic. That doesn't mean it's not out there though. But I think that some of the chemicals used on the crops, must find it's way into the nectar and therefore into the honey. But I have no proof of this.
WR

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Re: Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs
« Reply #46 on: January 20, 2007, 09:22:39 AM » by Amey

Quote from: Whiterock on January 19, 2007, 11:41:19 PM

Wow, what a great question to ask. I know it wasn't asked as a question, but I'll ask it: do crop chemicals end up in honey? I looked for info on this at honey.com (a great site, by the way, if you want recipes for honey), and couldn't find anything. I'd be interested to see some research on this. Maybe I'll give it a shot. When I have a free moment.

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Re: Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs
« Reply #47 on: April 18, 2007, 06:34:21 PM » by petrimama

Okay, first the answer to my own question:
The Honey Lady said that most enzymes would survive, a few would not. She said some even survive baking for long periods, which makes me glad I've been using raw honey in my bread recipe. She said raw honey is ALWAYS better than the processed, even if most of the enzymes are killed because there are some that are so resilient, not to mention the factthat there are tons we haven't figured out yet.

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Re: Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs
« Reply #48 on: April 18, 2007, 06:36:01 PM » by petrimama

I read that honey can be used as a soap and shampoo, and since it is so good for the skin & hair, I was wondering if anyone has any idea how to use it as shampoo. I've only ever heard of spraying a water/honey/lemon mixture on AFTER shampooing. ~L

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Re: Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs
« Reply #49 on: April 20, 2007, 07:43:22 PM » by petrimama

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« Reply #50 on: April 23, 2007, 06:41:41 PM » by petrimama

Bump Bump.

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Re: Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs
« Reply #51 on: April 25, 2007, 11:16:15 AM » by mommie

bump on the shampoo

but also...i've just been told honey turns toxic when heated or put in hot liquids, etc...help...I eat all my honey hot...any reliable info out there that anyone knows of...having hard time finding anything woth while when I google it

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Re: Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs
« Reply #52 on: April 25, 2007, 01:22:25 PM » by wyomama3

Quote from: chrissyjoy on April 25, 2007, 11:16:15 AM

It is to my understanding that when heated over 117 F, honey begins to loose enzymes, or when heated in the microwave. We scrape our honey out of a gallon jug into a glass jar. It's a little jelly jar with a lid. We then set the jar in hot water or run in under hot water if we only need a drizzle. In oatmeal or other hot cereal we just spoon a chunk into it and the heat melts the honey in our bowl.
FYI: Many bee keeping assocaitions have cook books. My Wyo one has recipes, tips, and fun facts.

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« Reply #53 on: April 25, 2007, 01:47:09 PM » by dara

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i've just been told honey turns toxic when heated or put in hot liquids, etc...help...I eat all my honey hot...

For what it's worth, I've never heard that before, and it doesn't sound at all likely to me... but I haven't looked it up specifically.

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Re: Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs
« Reply #54 on: April 25, 2007, 01:54:22 PM » by mommie

Yeah, It doesn't sound likely to me either...I just needed a little encouragement in that direction especially since my son has had mystery illnesses twice with really high fevers since eating raw honey. Thanks ladies...Just needed a little reassurance.

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Re: Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs
« Reply #55 on: April 25, 2007, 06:54:28 PM » by petrimama

That is weird. I think hives are well over 100 degrees. Plus I spoke to a woman from my bee keepers association and she recommended cooking with raw honey. People have been puttinghoney in tea for centuries, so you'd think we would have heard about it if it were that bad for you. Sounds like someone probably heard that raw honey shouldn't be heated and assumed that it would become toxic. I know I won't stop doing it. Boy am I a risk taker, now!! Cool

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Re: Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs
« Reply #56 on: May 02, 2007, 12:15:43 PM » by migratingoose

I have used Costco honey and other times Azure Raw Honey in our hot oatmeal- I think the Raw honey tastes better, much more natural and real even when I heat it.

So now I am using the raw honey for everything but baking.

You might try a taste test.

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Re: Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs
« Reply #57 on: December 24, 2007, 05:21:12 PM » by cecac

My dh came home from Costco with a new honey they are selling-organic. They explained the concept of organic on the label. The bees haven't been fed any antibiotics Huh

and also the vegetation around about the bees has not been sprayed, etc.

But the label didn't say raw. That's what I don't understand. Is it raw, or does the label have to say raw?

And if it isn't raw, does that mean it's been very heated or something in order to pasteurize it, or something?

WTM, please, or I have to call the company on the label. Because I've been wondering about this for a while.

Thank you,
Cara

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Re: Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs
« Reply #58 on: December 25, 2007, 08:53:06 PM » by JeffAngie

Hello I was intrested in some of the info about Honey. We use the raw honey and have found it helpful. I am posting this article that a friend of our family wrote. He has a business thats called the "Honey House." I just got this from his several days ago in my email I thought it was helpful and intresting. Hope you will find it helpful as well.
God Bless,
Angie

Food for Thought!

#1-- Raw honey is actually good for Asthma, among other reasons, for the oxygen content that absorbs into the body.

#2-- Although raw honey is known by professional athletes as an incredible energy food, taking a tablespoon or so before you go do bed will enhance sleeping. In other words, raw honey helps alleviate insomnia.

#3—Raw honey helps children through the bed wetting stage. You see, it absorbs moisture.

#4-- Unpasteurized Honey
Raw honey has the plant enzyme amylase which is concentrated in the pollen of flowers. It is effective in helping the predigestion of starchy foods. Try spreading raw honey on a piece of bread and allow it to sit for 15 minutes. The honey will immediately begin to break down the starches in the bread. Most commercial honey has been pasteurized, heated for up to 24 hours to prevent it from turning hard or hazy. In 1930, the German Honey Ordinance ordered that honey could not be sold for table use unless the enzyme, amylase was intact. North America has no such requirement.

#5—Raw honey contains live enzymes (our life force) which, if eaten every day renews our enzymes for daily digestion, thus enabling us to live a longer, healthier life.

#6—Raw honey contains over 165 nutrients.

Some of this information is taken from the writings of Dr. D.C.Jarvis, born in 1881, graduate of the University of Vermont Medical College. He says, “Honey fills in any gaps that might occur in the daily food intake, and Vermonters take to eating it daily for that reason. People who know the food value of honey are more likely to eat it regularly than those whose knowledge of it is vague. A medical man who familiarizes himself with what honey can accomplish in the human body is very apt to prescribe it when rearranging the patients daily food intake.

In years gone by food authorities discounted the minerals in honey, on the assumption that their quantity was too small to make them important. Now it is known, however, that numerous minerals are needed by the human body in very small amounts to keep the body in mineral balance. Honey contains them in about the right quantity to serve the needs of the normal individual.”

Doctor Jarvis goes on to say, “Honey is soothing to the stomach. It will relieve pain in arthritis.

I well remember the delight of a schoolteacher who reported what consistent use of honey had done for her arthritis. It had given her great pain for a long time and she had become quite philosophic about it. Then one year she was transferred to a new school district and went to board in a farm family. Honey was the standard sweetening agent used in the household. By the end of the teacher’s first school year, the arthritis had disappeared. It could be attributed to the remedying of a potassium deficiency with the honey.”

“Honey will, by several effects, render old age less difficult to live. I am saddened when people tell me that they don’t eat honey because it costs more than white sugar. I try to make them see that health is not to be had for the asking. Good health is earned. In the long run, you must pay either the grocer or the drugstore. When you become sick, you find you must spend the money you saved on food to purchase drugs to bring back your health.”

Doctor Jarvis goes on and on and on…..and on! When time allows, I would like to share more of what he has to say.

“My people perish for lack of knowledge” Hosea 4:6 …t…

Hope to see you at the markets,

Mark

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Re: Honey & the Whole Ball of Wax: FAQs
« Reply #59 on: December 25, 2007, 09:12:46 PM » by cecac

Thanks for that. It answers my question--organic isn't raw.

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