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Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #150 on: November 10, 2007, 09:02:12 AM » by SC

Interesting how the news media and science is so slow to catch up with what we instinctively know. I saw a report on this on network news this morning. They reported that egg cells had been found developing in the testes of male animals exposed to these chemicals.

Here's a report issued by Newsday:
http://www.newsday.com/news/health/ny-hschem1109,0,4456305.story

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Study: Chemicals from household plastics found in volunteers' blood
BY DELTHIA RICKS | delthia.ricks@newsday.com
November 9, 2007
Compounds used in a vast array of everyday products that range from plastic microwaveable containers, toys and medical devices were found in the blood and urine of participants in a nationwide monitoring program sponsored by a coalition of environmental health groups.

Even though there were only 35 volunteers, and the research did not rise to the level usually required of scientists who report findings in peer-reviewed journals, results were strikingly similar to those in a much larger, ongoing study overseen by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Results from the project were released in Albany, as well as in several other states where groups sponsored the study.

Participants, who ranged from 12 years old to people in their 50s, volunteered from around the country. All were found to have evidence of the substances in their bodies.

The upshot of the analysis was to find whether compounds known as bisphenol-A, polybrominated diphenyl ethers -- PBDEs -- and phthalates (pronounced: THA-lates) are permanently in the tissues and blood of children, teens and adults.

Volunteer John Sferazo of Huntington Station said chemicals from each of the categories was found in tests he submitted to the project. He believes information from the biomonitoring project can help consumers choose household products wisely.

"People should learn from other people's problems," said Sferazo, who founded Unsung Heroes Helping Heroes, an organization that aids workers who volunteered at Ground Zero after the World Trade Center attacks.

"They should be astute and take care of their health now, based on the personal information I am willing to give out on what my body carries," said Sferazo, who worked at the site after the collapse.

Bisphenol-A has been used in plastic baby bottles, food containers and other household items and has been known to leach into foods when the containers are heated. When word spread earlier this year that bisphenol-A was leaching from infants' bottles, parents nationwide abandoned the bottles and turned to glass.

Phthalates are have been used in cosmetics but are also the key chemical softener in polyvinyl chloride, which makes up a range of products from garden hoses and plastic shower curtains to plastics used in the medical industry. PBDEs are flame retardants, used in products such as televisions and sofas.

Together, the compounds are known as endocrine disrupters because they can act as estrogens in the body and block the function of natural hormones.

Sheldon Krimsky, a science policy expert at Tufts University in Boston, said studies have demonstrated that endocrine disrupters cause sex changes in fish and amphibians. He added, however, that a growing body of evidence suggests human harm.

"Analyses like the one reported today are body-burden studies," Krimsky said of the biomonitoring project. "This is a genre of studies that give us information about the accumulation of chemicals in our bodies and therefore gives us some idea about exposure.

"There's no question that people are being exposed," he said, adding that we now have to find out what it means.

An estimated 6 billion pounds of bisphenol-A are produced annually in the United States, according to data from the CDC, which reported last month in the journal Environmental Health Perspectives, that 92.2 percent of Americans carry traces of the compound in their tissues. CDC scientists found that the compound is excreted in urine.

Agency spokeswoman Dagny Olivares, said the CDC could not comment on the environmental report released yesterday. She added that the CDC's biomonitoring program is not looking for adverse health effects but is examining people nationwide in an attempt to determine the prevalence of bisphenol-A, as well as a host of other chemicals.

"Our baseline numbers will allow other researchers to explore what they mean," Olivares said yesterday. Biomonitoring at CDC began in the 1970s.

In laboratory studies, bisphenol-A has been shown to alter human egg development, and phthalates caused so-called phthalate syndrome in male lab rodents, characterized by lowered testosterone levels and a shortened distance between the anus and scrotum. The animals also had reduced sperm counts. PBDEs also are associated with underdeveloped male reproductive organs.

Here's the link to the national news report
http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=2138565

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Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #151 on: November 11, 2007, 05:57:05 PM » by SarahLaRae

Okay, I think I'm posting in the right place, but if not I apologize before hand. I have been having some hormonal issues, and anything I read about it I have a hard time understanding. So I will ask you ladies your opinion. I am at the moment taking EPO because I believe I have Fibrocystic (sp) Breast Condition and that helps it. I also drink Mamas Brew when I am on my cycle. So this is my problem....I am cranky off and on all the time. Get angry very easily. I get depressed very easily. And am only in the mood for sex about one a week (sometimes less). I want to be a better wife and mommy and I think my hormones are the problem. Does anyone have a suggestion as what to do???
Thanks, Sarah

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« Reply #152 on: November 11, 2007, 06:03:32 PM » by ladyhen

Sarah, This is the herbal tincture that I would take if I was having your symptoms. It works well to normalize a woman's hormones.

http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,2569.msg125307.html#msg125307

This should take you to reply #195, which is Mrs. B's post giving a Dr. Schultz recipe for Female Formula.

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« Reply #153 on: November 12, 2007, 11:24:00 AM » by SarahLaRae

Thanks a bunch, I'll look into it

Also, will this interact with the EPO that I am taking??

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« Reply #154 on: November 13, 2007, 09:00:25 AM » by SarahLaRae

ummmm...bump! Grin

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« Reply #155 on: November 13, 2007, 09:33:02 AM » by Sparkys9

Sarahlarae, this is why auntie takes the Progest-E. Expensive? Yes. Worth it? Yes! Anything that keeps me from turning into Turbo-witch is worth it's weight in gold!!!!!!

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« Reply #156 on: November 13, 2007, 09:57:39 AM » by Roehrmomma

Quote from: Sparkys9 on November 13, 2007, 09:33:02 AM

Sarahlarae, this is why auntie takes the Progest-E. Expensive? Yes. Worth it? Yes! Anything that keeps me from turning into Turbo-witch is worth it's weight in gold!!!!!!

Expensive BUT lasts a long while.

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« Reply #157 on: January 02, 2008, 08:05:02 AM » by mamatomany

I have a friend that has a 9 year old who is developing...hair, breasts, mood swings, the whole nine yards. I questioned the mom about her diet, maybe soy, no soy, I know they eat a ton of chicken, non-organic type chicken, and no milk products. The mom did not start her menstration until she was 16. The doctor said it is fine, but it seems she is getting estrogen from somwhere. Any thoughts?

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« Reply #158 on: January 02, 2008, 03:48:04 PM » by KristenA

Quote from: mamatomany on January 02, 2008, 08:05:02 AM

Is the child overweight?
Fat creates more estrogen (even in men).

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Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #159 on: January 02, 2008, 04:33:19 PM » by Ruby

My dd is also starting to develop and she's just turned 10. I've been trying to figure this one out myself. My dd isn't overweight and I try to watch what she eats. I'm wondering about soy too since it seems to be in everything. I don't serve soy and I try not to buy products with it as an ingredient, but that seems to be impossible these days. Any ideas? How can we slow this down?

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« Reply #160 on: January 02, 2008, 05:51:23 PM » by beppyjo

Quote from: Ruby on January 02, 2008, 04:33:19 PM

Don't know if this will help but I have heard of kids who start developing early when they are on store bought milk... When switched to raw milk (from a trusted hormone free/ organic/ grass fed source) the symptoms reversed until the child was of an age when they should start. Might be something to look into if you are currently not using raw milk. You can find sources through a local Weston A Price chapte,r if you have one, or online at either www.realmilk.com or www.eatwild.com. I am sure that there is a thread on this site about raw milk as well. HTH

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« Reply #161 on: January 02, 2008, 07:11:38 PM » by mykidsmom

Quote from: beppyjo on January 02, 2008, 05:51:23 PM

Quote from: Ruby on January 02, 2008, 04:33:19 PM

Absolutely stay away from store bought milk, cheese, etc. My daughter started puberty at 5yrs old because of all the hormones that get pumped in to the meat and dairy. We immediately switched to an all organic/whole diet and she stopped developing until just recently. She is in full swing puberty now and will be 10 in Feb. That is normal for my family as I started my cycles at 10. So I would second getting rid of anything from the store that is non-organic, and full of hormones (milk, meat, cheese, etc).

patti

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« Reply #162 on: March 11, 2008, 10:07:29 AM » by grocerygetter

Ladies, I need some advice (hee hee hee, isn't that why we come here?!) Anyway, I'm coming off of four years of preggo, nursing, preggo #2, nursing #2 and I think my hormones are freaking Sad

I don't know what else it would be. I don't have anything super specific but I'm just not right. My hubby finally brought it up with me this morning. I just don't have a lot of energy, I'm kind "down" most of the time, not all of the time, and I don't have much patience. I've never felt this way before so it's kind of strange not to be able to just snap out of it. I feel like I change with the wind. Like sometimes I'm hungry, sometimes I'm not, sometimes I can't sleep, other times I can. Any advice??

I take Supermom's, EPO (2000 mg/ day), and Vit D Cod Liver everyday. We're GF/CF. I do have autoimmune thyroid/hypothyroid.

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« Reply #163 on: March 11, 2008, 01:03:13 PM » by cecac

I do have one thought--the lack of patience can be magnesium deficiency and it can also be adrenals (overwhelmed feelings, if that is part of it.) You might consider that something may not be right with the endocrine system, since you already understand about your thyroid.

I don't have any answers for it when my endocrine system acts up and I'm fairly sure it's not adrenals (my weak point, but I keep them nourished most of the time and know the symptoms of failure there). There is this thread where a master gland supplement is suggested which I've thought of trying postpartum for this type problem.

http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,16343.0.html

The reason I would thinks our endocrine system could be part of the issue for something like this is because it is what is horomones, KWIM? I've had issues where my adrenals were okay, but something else went out of balance, etc. You already know your thyroid is not functioning fully, so I would wonder how the other glands of the endocrine system are doing. If you are suspecting estrogen dominance or something other in the horomone department (and I see you are taking EPO) then you may want to look into entire endocrine system boosting.

We've had some discussion in this thread, although I don't consider it very well rounded out yet. Lol, some of us need to post successes when we get them!!

http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,12890.0.html

HTH,
Cara

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« Reply #164 on: May 21, 2008, 06:24:08 AM » by Bek

Has anyone taken the HB formula and/or T&C formula from Mountain Meadow Herbs? Did you have any pain while taking the tinctures? I've been faithfully taking the HB formula when I'm on my cycle and then for a week after, then I switch to the T&C formula until my cycle begins again. When I was on the HB formula my right ovary felt like a blown up balloon and it was so painful! The same thing is occuring with my left ovary now that I am on the T&C formula. Are these tinctures just that aggressive, or are these maybe signs to quit taking the formulas? I have had ovarian cysts in the past, and I've burst a few over the years, and I probably still have a few (or a lot and don't know it), so it could just be my cysts are going away or scar tissue is healing. Anyway, I would be interested in knowing if any of you have advice, or experience with taking these tinctures for hormonal imbalance. Thanks in advance!
-Rebekah

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« Reply #165 on: May 22, 2008, 02:56:53 PM » by Bek

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« Reply #166 on: July 28, 2008, 02:26:22 PM » by Eglantine

I know I have a hormone imbalance issue...where do I start to find out if it's estrogen dominance, progesterone deficiency, or what? I've had headaches/migraines every month since I was pregnant with my first son 13 years ago. I've had enough... I wonder if when this is all resolved- will my family even recognize me as the same person Wink

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« Reply #167 on: July 29, 2008, 07:19:27 AM » by mishy

I suffered from cyclical migraines- the one where you are in a complete fog, don't move me or I'll die.

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I started taking EPO and they went away, but then came back after I said "cool! I am going to take these every day". So basically I overdid it. I backed off to just the second half of my cycle and got it back under control, with just a MILD headache. Only thing I can't figure out now is, my headache used to come the day before I'd start. Now it comes after my period.
Huh

I am now using the Beeyoutiful Balance- progesterone cream to see how that works for me and I am not taking the EPO this month. I am using it 2x a day only during the second half of my cycle.

I concluded I was estrogen dominant, so I think you would be too. I read a book- was it by Dr. Lee? Hormonal Imbalance made easy.... or something to that effect. I am sure someone else knows the title and can help out?

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« Reply #168 on: July 31, 2008, 03:11:24 PM » by healthybratt

Quote from: Eglantine on July 28, 2008, 02:26:22 PM

You can get your hormones tested or you can go with the obvious and start eliminating causes, one at a time until they are all gone. In many cases you can almost just bet that it's true. If you eat soy in any form that's not fermented (think storebought bread, frozen pizza, crackers, anything cooked in "vegetable oil" and even tuna), eat meats from the grocer that have either been injected with hormones or been fed soy, if you use detergents for your laundry, dishsoap and shampoo or body wash, or if you've ever taken any hormone based birth control then you can almost assume this is going to be a problem with you.

Now if you don't get any other form of hormones than what you're born with and you're still suspecting a problem, then the culprit might be yeast. Yeast eats progesterone and can cause you to be estrogen dominant without actually adding estrogen.

In my research I have found that some women are low on estrogen but in many cases they are only low on one type of estrogen, but they are still dominant in another form and therefore either need to lower their estrogen exposure or increase their progesterone intake (or prevent yeast from eating it) in order to create a balance.

Soy Bad, Soy Good: The Pluses of Fermented Soy
Sodium Laurel Sulfate (SLS)
Progesterone Cream: How, Why & When to Use
Wild Yam Root and hormones?
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« Reply #169 on: September 12, 2008, 09:49:48 PM » by healthybratt

Quote from: hi_itsgwen on August 23, 2008, 05:30:04 PM

Quote from: kcb on July 29, 2008, 06:39:08 PM

Ok, I'm still not satisfied with the information I have found. The internet articles keep saying that harmful chemicals are found in the plastic. And they say that certain heating/cooling leaches the chemicals out of the plastic and into the food. And I've seen a bit of info about what some of these chemicals can do to a person. But does anyone know where to find the specifics: How many people have reported being affected? How much plastic does it take to affect you? What symptoms should you look for? Etc. Everything seems so vague to me right now.

I am on the same page with you. Our family is healthy, so it is hard for me to believe that things like common plastic containers are 'poisoning' us and such. I hadn't worried about it, until I ran across this website. It's not about plastic poisons. But it has a great article about Xeno(manufactured/artificial) estrogens. The estrogen mimicking chemical/hormone PBA seems to be the root of the scare about plastics. After I read it, I asked my husband to read it as well. He said that this, in his opinion warrants some action on our part. I think we can all see some pretty immediate results of hormone disruption all around us (also read the phytoestrogen page...that's interesting as well.) I personally know a little girl in the first grade who is developing noticable breasts. Estrogen dominance is linked to infertility, weight problems, early puberty, all kinds of male hormone and fertility problems, gynocomastia (males who grow bre@sts) etc. I suspect that a lot of these problems are never diagnosed as or linked to estrogen dominance, much less plastics or soy for that matter. The doctors would rather just say 'we don't know why' than to take on the big industrial guns.

I found the article to be extremely helpful. The author discusses how these false estrogens were accidentally discovered, what they do in our bodies, and also points out which products to be most proactive about, as well as risk factors for the way we use plastics.

http://www.cyst101.com/xeno.htm

(This site is written for an audience of women who deal with cysts on their ovaries, and should avoid all estrogen for this reason. So there is a slant that may not apply to everyone...just be aware of that context for some of the recommendations.)

Hope this helps!
~Gwen

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« Reply #170 on: September 28, 2008, 05:21:38 PM » by Beth

been doing some research on passionflower. And it would seem there is some evidence that the chemical Chrysin in plant may help reduce excess estrogen. Worth looking into. There's a thread on passionflower now that gives a quote from Prescription for Herbal Healing. Anyone have any more info about this?

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« Reply #171 on: October 06, 2008, 08:20:41 AM » by healthybratt

Quote from: Beth on September 28, 2008, 05:21:38 PM

Practical Herbalism has a brief write-up on this

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King's American Dispensatory subsequently described the herb and its indications...

It relieves the nervous symptoms due to reflex sexual or menstrual disturbances...

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« Reply #172 on: October 06, 2008, 12:57:21 PM » by hi_itsgwen

"Chrysin was once believed to be an effective aromatase inhibitor, decreasing the levels of estrogen in the body. However, there is growing consensus that chrysin has no effect on estrogen levels in either animals or humans. [5]. Early evidence was reported in the early 1980's through in vitro studies (in the laboratory, as opposed to in the body) [6][7][8] [9][10] [11][12]. Unfortunately, follow-up studies determined that cell membranes effectively block chrysin from entering the cells and having any effect at all on estrogen levels in biological organisms"
~Wikipedia article on Chrysin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysin

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« Reply #173 on: October 06, 2008, 04:16:44 PM » by Beth

I did notice that the studies were done on chrysin which is chemically extracted from passionflower. Usually in these cases it is the "whole herb" that works the best. It is worth looking into. There are many benefits and there is some good evidence to say it is possible that it blocks estrogen. Or increases testosterone. It has traditionally been used as an aphrodisiac by herbalists. It would seem it is doing something on a hormonal level...

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« Reply #174 on: March 26, 2009, 01:35:08 PM » by Jemima

Wow. This thread is long and weighty. But I finally got through it! I don't know if I understand everything, but I was searching for some answers for hormone imbalance.

I haven't really considered that I might have a HI before, but recently thinking about the way I feel and act, and everything I believe it may be very possible. I have had two babies within the last two years, and nursed them both, but am not nursing any longer. I'm 23, and otherwise seem to be healthy, but I feel like I have been such an emotional mess so much of the time in the last 2 years. Lots of "blue" days, feelings of rage/irritability Cry

and overwhelmed.

Anyhow, I'm thinking maybe my hormones might be a bit out of whack after the babies, and I'm trying to figure out what would be a good balancer. My cycle has returned, but it's been weird- seems to keep getting longer every month.

So does anyone know of something that would be good for this phase of life, and getting things back on track?

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« Reply #175 on: March 30, 2009, 10:14:09 AM » by twitterpated4hubby

I have lumps in my breast that are harmless except to get sore around the time of my period. This month im almost off and its not just sore to the touch...its just sore no matter what. This has never happened before. Im also breaking out on my back and strange spots on my face that i usually dont break out on like my neck, jaw line and cheeks. I also have noticed in the past months some spots on my cheeks and forehead and just found out its called melasma. (aka pregnancy mask) Its a hormonal thing. Im haven't been on BC for years, my last child is 2yrs old, i take evening primrose oil everyday and i cant think of anything i could be doing to cause this problem. HELP! What do i do?

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« Reply #176 on: March 30, 2009, 10:30:00 AM » by twitterpated4hubby

Oh i almost forgot...i am on a total body cleanse...just about done with it. I may be imagining it but when i forget to take my pills, it seems my spots are darker. Hmmmmm!!

Does anyone know if maybe the total body cleanse didn't focus enough on my liver and i need to do a liver cleanse in a few months?

Does anyone think maybe progesterone cream would help me? I can get some at the healthfood store if it would help my hormones regulate.

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« Reply #177 on: May 05, 2009, 02:01:01 AM » by jasica

I will read from time to time for that.

http://allnutri.com/chrysin.aspx

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« Reply #178 on: October 29, 2009, 01:51:13 PM » by amy3js

Ok, so I got through this whole thread and that combined with my own research, I am sure I am estrogen dominant. I am overweight, diagnosed w/PCOS and Insulin Resistance, cycles of not bleeding for a couple months and then bleeding non-stop and HEAVY for months. I bled for 6 continuous months at the beginning of this year and finally was only able to stop after 2 minor surgeries (D&C and hysteroscopy) and the highest dose of progesterone in pill form that my dr felt comfortable prescribing. I then had a few months of not bleeding with 1-2 weeks of light spotting. Then I spotted again for a week in the end of sept, then stopped for a week, and now on my 17th day of heavy bleeding. About 2.5 weeks ago my hubbs declared we were doing a raw vegan diet. This eventually morphed into a mostly raw mostly vegetarian diet, but since then our eating has been way better. raw fruits and veggies for breakfast and lunch and some cooked food with dinner. No proccessed sugars and junk (there have been a couple slip ups, but mostly we've been good). All our dairy is hormone free and milk is raw. Meat at home is hormone free, but we have had a couple meals outside of home. I also started taking levothyroxin for the last 7 weeks, for an underactive thyroid. I am pretty sure I have a candida overgrowth, but can't cut out the fruit right now because I am losing weight eating this way and I feel that is the most important health benefit for me at the moment. Also we have been trying for a baby for 2+ years with no luck. I was taking vitex, CLO, cinnamon and green food but have mostly stopped, mostly due to forgetting because of a new routine and partly to save money due to an increased grocery budget (all organic).

So, my questions. If you were me, would you take progesterone cream for a time, until the bleeding subsided assuming that the new diet will prevent future bleeding episodes? Even knowing the prog. cream might feed the yeasties? Is it possible I am bleeding now BECAUSE of my weight loss, if my fat cells are releasing stored estrogens that my body is trying to flush out? If that is the case would you wait a bit longer before using the cream? Would you start taking any of the supps again?

My goal is to be off all meds and supps in a year. Except maybe CLO. So anything I take now I view as a way to get over the hump of symptoms while I give my body time to heal. And while I work out the kinks of my diet.

Thanks to all the posters on this thread! Especially SC, HB and Patti!

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« Reply #179 on: October 29, 2009, 01:58:19 PM » by mykidsmom

Quote from: amy3js on October 29, 2009, 01:51:13 PM

So, my questions. If you were me, would you take progesterone cream for a time, until the bleeding subsided assuming that the new diet will prevent future bleeding episodes? Even knowing the prog. cream might feed the yeasties? Is it possible I am bleeding now BECAUSE of my weight loss, if my fat cells are releasing stored estrogens that my body is trying to flush out? If that is the case would you wait a bit longer before using the cream? Would you start taking any of the supps again?

Thanks to all the posters on this thread! Especially SC, HB and Patti!

If it were *me* I would absolutely recommend using the progesterone cream to control bleeding and put your body back in hormonal balance. I have NOT had the progesterone give me any issues with candida and I actually disagree with this train of thought. It makes no sense. It's like saying God gave us candida because he put progesterone in our bodies. So long as you are only using enough progesterone to bring your body into normal range and not over doing it I cannot logically see (nor have I experienced) an overgrowth in candida.

So for now, I would absolutely continue on your diet and use the progesterone. If you can get a natural form of thryoid you would be better off. One thing to remember is when one hormone level is off then the body starts taking from other hormone sectors in an attempt to balance out the body and what you end up with is being low in most of the hormones you need. So by supplementing you are attempting to keep your body from stealing from other areas that need the hormones. As you heal you won't need to supplement as much. I am off thyroid hormones now and am taking less then 1/2 of the progesterone I started out on 5yrs ago.

hth

patti

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