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Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« on: October 06, 2006, 07:43:36 AM » by anynomouse

I need help! Cry

I was diagnosed with Estrogen Dominance about a year ago (about 15months after second child was born)
The doctor put me on bioidentical testosterone and progesterone and I was on those for about 9 months. I decided to go off of them because I was hoping my husband would soften and want another child soon. Well, I have been of for four months now...we have tried to conceive the past three months and no baby.
When I got pregnant with our two children it happened very fast, one try for our first and two for our second. I am feeling discouraged....I know God has perfect timing; however I am worried that taking the hormones messed me up even more than before.
I will not do anything to increase fertility, I know that is in God's hands and I don't want to play God.
What I am looking for is an herb or an herbal tea that is supposed to help balance out the hormones, if there is such a thing.
Your help is appreciated
In Christ

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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2006, 08:13:50 AM » by SarahK

I have read several posts about these two products and one other supplement:

Mama's Red Raspberry Brew: This is a tea blend of red raspberry leaves, nettle, alfalfa & peppermint. I have it and use it as a tea but I know others have investigated use as a tincture since they don't care for the flavor.

Jungle Juice Tincture for Women: This is combo of Alfalfa, Bilberry, Butcher’s Broom, Ginkgo, Nettle, Oatstraw, Red Raspberry, Siberian Ginseng, Tumeric, & Cayenne.

Evening Primrose Oil: There are a couple threads on this one. I am not taking it now because it is also used in labor induction and I am pregnant & not due for 6-8 weeks yet.

I don't have any personal experience with JJ, but my tincture will be ready in about 10 days.

I would recommend reading the info available at www.bulkherbstore.com (where you can purchase the brew & the JJ). Then, goto the home page here at WTM and search for Jungle Juice, Red Raspberry, and then for Evening Primrose Oil and EPO (an abbreviation).

Hope that gives you a start-
Sarah K

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Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2006, 09:07:44 AM » by dara

I second what Sarah said; if you don't like the taste of the RR blend tea, ADD PEPPERMINT for the flavor. I drink it down fast anyway, I'm not really an herbal tea lover- though I drink it for various reasons.

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Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2006, 04:45:47 PM » by lovey1029

Here is some great news for your hormones. Mannatech has a product called Plus which gives your body what it needs to create its own hormones naturally (all 80 of them) and is a modulator (balancer). I have had 7 children, and I used this product before I conceived the last one and experienced phenomenal results. I continue to use this product daily to support the entire endocrine system and keep things in balance. Mannatech is responsible for the findings of glyconutrients in nature which are used in cell to cell communication. Plus is one of 3 products that keep the body healthy and supported properly. We welcome your questions or concerns. My husband and I educate people full-time about this nutrition and have been blessed to watch the amazing design of the body to heal and repair and to keep itself healthy! We are here to help!

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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2006, 05:26:54 PM » by Elizab04

Try reading the info at these links. I know from the experience of myself and MANY others that this works.

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https://syringa.merchantsecure.com/brochures/resolveNaturalSolutionStuff.pdf

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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2006, 05:53:10 PM » by bendeleboysmama

Does either one of these creams help with Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome? I have been told that this may be my problem(by an M.D.)and am on Proleif by Arbonne. But I am wondering if this is the best thing for me at this time after reading those leaflets from Elizab04. I would be interested in hearing your detailed experiences. Also lovey1029's also. Private me or post. I'm interested because I want to find relief and possible have baby #3 if my chances are still good.

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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2006, 08:42:10 PM » by healthybratt

Quote from: bendeleboysmama on October 06, 2006, 05:53:10 PM

Read these.

http://www.drlam.com/A3R_brief_in_doc_format/Estrogen_Dominance.cfm
http://www.ovarian-cysts-pcos.com/news11.html#sec1

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Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2006, 10:14:02 PM » by SC

Wild yam cream is a help for those experiencing a problem with estrogen dominance. In its natural form, this is a food and bio available -- meaning that your body can deal with and utilize the food, easily disposing of that which it does not need.

Be careful of the progesterone creams you find in the HFS and other sources. Read labels carefully as they often include soybean oils and/or products derived from soybeans.

The problem with soybeans is that they contribute to a raised estrogen level -- a good reason for men to avoid tofu and soybean products, in addition to the fact that they are processed without having their phytates neutralized. Click here for another thread on how to make your own wild yam cream.

As a preventative and ongoing treatment, I would start to investigate my diet and environment for anything that could influence (and cause an imbalance in) my hormones. Check your toiletries for aluminum (deodorants) and other harsh chemicals. Consider doing away with creams and lotions and using oils like olive oil, coconut oil, sesame oil and/or grapeseed oil instead. Anything with animal fat that has been raised commercially, is likely to have some synthetic hormonal residue in the product that may not be listed on the label. Animal fat often retains the toxins the animal was exposed to during its life.

With this in mind, consider consuming organic meats as much as possible and only very lean other meats. Avoid shell fish and seafood with skin (not scales) as they detoxify their environment and may have deposits of toxins from the water which could include things that influence your hormones. Look for ocean caught, deep water fish with scales. Start reading the labels of your condiments and oils for those with soybean oil and/or other chemicals. Consider making your own.

It is my belief that the early onset of menses in young girls is only one red flag to the over-exposure to hormone imbalancing toxins in their diet and environment. I am also seeing a lot of women with too much relaxin in their systems during pregnancy which cause problems in mobility. Click here for that thread. The increase in difficulties experienced during these "female" passages (onset menses, pms, pregnancy, peri-menopause, and menopause) indicate to me that something in our diet and/or food supply is contributing to this delicate imbalance. While supplements and/or other treatments can be helpful in dealing with the symptoms, my approach is to look for the cause, correct the contributing factors, and help the body reset itself.

HTH. Let us know how you are doing.

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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2006, 12:02:56 AM » by mykidsmom

Ya know, 4 months isn't that long to try and get pregnant. I know it feels like an eternity because I know how neurotic I was when we hit the 6 month mark and I STILL wasn't pregnant. Grin

Part of it was just simply timing. I started taking my basal temp in the morning just to make sure I was ovulating and we did try to hit my ovulation times. Only took us a month after I started tracking my temp. Maybe you just need to give it more time or try the temp thing. Also, age is a factor. It does take somewhat longer to get pregnant the older you get. And you're right. God's timing.

I have a friend that was using bio hormones and got pregnant first try so I'm not sure being on or off of them would interfere unless you're not ovulating without them.

I just went off of bio-hormones after being on them for a year and a half. They were immensely helpful for my PCOS. I am having trouble losing (actually gaining) weight now that I'm off of them and I may go back on because weight loss was one of the first things I experienced when I went on them (I needed to lose). However, we are trying to find a way to completely get off of them. I am reading a book on hormones right now and taking care of them naturally (without bios). If it's any good I'll post up on it.

Patti

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Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2006, 09:04:47 PM » by morgan1611

Quote from: SC on October 06, 2006, 10:14:02 PM

Can anyone recommend a good Wild Yam Cream to purchase? It would be great if it were available online.....

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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2006, 10:50:43 PM » by healthybratt

Quote from: morgan1611 on October 10, 2006, 09:04:47 PM

Quote from: SC on October 06, 2006, 10:14:02 PM

Can anyone recommend a good Wild Yam Cream to purchase? It would be great if it were available online.....

I'd like to know also. Someone said in another thread that Walmart carried one, but I looked tonight and they said they don't carry any progesteron therapy of any kind, so I'm still looking.

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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2006, 10:53:21 PM » by Clementine

Quote from: patti on October 07, 2006, 12:02:56 AM

Ya know, 4 months isn't that long to try and get pregnant. I know it feels like an eternity because I know how neurotic I was when we hit the 6 month mark and I STILL wasn't pregnant. Grin

I am curious as to what biohormones you were taking. I have PCOS and recently stopped taking some prescription medications (Glucophage and Birth Control Pills) because I just didn't feel right about them. I am searching for some herbal solutions.

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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2006, 11:42:08 PM » by Helen

I wanna get pregnant too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just sent for the HB tincture (Hormone Balance ) from mountain meadow herbs, plus i chug lots of the mamas redraspberry brew from bulkherbstore, Chaseberry also helps to straighten out hormones, but it also makes you much more fertile.

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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2006, 10:22:23 AM » by healthybratt

Quote from: Elizab04 on October 06, 2006, 05:26:54 PM

Try reading the info at these links. I know from the experience of myself and MANY others that this works.

Do you know where I can view the ingredients list? I looked on your links and had no luck. This one looks the most promising from all of the others I've looked at, but I really want to know everything that's in it, before I purchase. Thanks.

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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2006, 03:18:03 PM » by Elizab04

Quote from: healthybratt on October 13, 2006, 10:22:23 AM

Quote from: Elizab04 on October 06, 2006, 05:26:54 PM

Try reading the info at these links. I know from the experience of myself and MANY others that this works.

i'll just type them off of my jar:

Purified water, spring water, cetearyl Alcohol, wild yam extract, canola oil, jojoba oil, glycerin, isopropyl palmitate, steareth-2, steareth-21, plant sterols, fructose, glucosamine, allantoin, grapefruit seed extract, apricot kernel oil, tocopheryl acetate, evening primrose oil, diazolidnyl urea, methylparaben, propylparaben, tetrasodium EDTA.

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« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2006, 03:24:40 PM » by healthybratt

Quote from: Elizab04 on October 13, 2006, 03:18:03 PM

Quote from: healthybratt on October 13, 2006, 10:22:23 AM

Quote from: Elizab04 on October 06, 2006, 05:26:54 PM

Try reading the info at these links. I know from the experience of myself and MANY others that this works.

Thank you.

Doesn't anyone make it without all the extra's? I haven't been able to find anything that even resembles ALL natural, online or otherwise outside of attempting to make it myself. Any thoughts?

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« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2006, 11:29:31 PM » by SC

I’ve been doing some research on estrogen dominance in regards to its unpleasant side effects. I've seen this addressed in other discussions, but this touches on several of them, so (with apologies to HB) I gave it its own thread.

I have noticed women during pregnancy who were experiencing loose ligaments and painful joints. I’m talking about thumbs that fall out of the joint, pelvic bones that bend when seated on a soft chair and the awful pain that goes with it. Additionally, I have heard complaints about loss of sexual desire, out of control PMS, early onset menses, thyroid problems, peri menopausal symptoms, and the list goes on. It seems as though women all over are being attacked by their hormones. Between the hot flashes and the urge to rage, men everywhere are getting nervous – with good cause.

I wondered if all of these things had a common denominator. One thing started to pop up again and again. Estrogen. “But, estrogen is natural. God made us with estrogen. Why would it cause so many problems?” The answer is in the delicate balance between estrogen and progesterone. We need them both in balance with each other.

As a temporary fix, I had recommended that a natural form of progesterone (in wild yam cream) be used to alleviate symptoms. But that is just a symptomatic fix. I wanted to know what was causing an overload of estrogen in women’s bodies. Too many women who’s bodies hadn’t been subjected to synthetic hormonal therapies were having these symptoms for it to all be attributed to oral contraceptives or HRT.

Before I go further, let me share with you some of the symptoms of an imbalance between estrogen and progesterone. This has been called estrogen dominance, or low progesterone. For my purposes, I will call it hormonal imbalance (HI).

When estrogen levels are high there can be water retention, fibrous cysts in the breast, fat storage, gallbladder problems and hormone related cancers. Neurotransmitters in the brain such as serotonin (a chemical that is involved in mood and mental function) are affected. Bloating, constipation, weight gain, breast tenderness, headaches, and backaches are often noted.

So, if oral contraceptives and/or HRT cannot account for these widespread symptoms, what can? Well, I don’t think it’s a conspiracy to drive all women over the edge, but they couldn’t have created a better one if they had tried.

There are chemicals that we come in contact with on a daily basis called xenoestrogens. Xeno means foreign. In other words, these are synthetic estrogens that act like estrogens in our bodies, BUT our bodies don’t know how to get rid of them without help. Pretend that someone had the key to get into your home, but you forgot to give them the code to disarm the alarm system. The friend unlocks the door and walks into your house, but doesn’t know how to reset the system. Before long, the alarm is shrieking, and the police have joined your clueless friend in your home. A lot of stuff you didn’t intend to happen has just taken place. Xenoestrogens are like that, they gain entry and get a lot of stuff happening (like they live there) but they don’t know how to make a graceful exit and your body reacts like someone threw the wrong switch (which they did).

“But I’ve never even TOUCHED a xenowhatever.,” you say. Yes, you have. Xenoestrogens are increasingly present in our food supply. Hormone-raised livestock and commercially grown fruits and vegetables deliver them to your table courtesy of herbicides, pesticides, plastics, solvents, glues, automobile exhaust and petrochemical by-products. Oh, you also get a lot of this stuff by just handling the other types of plastics, papers, glues, fuels and solvents in your daily living.

And that’s not the only place you’re getting estrogen. There are plant sources that mimic estrogens called phytoestrogens. Soy, the lignans found in flax seed products, red clover, black cohosh, chasteberry, and dong quai are some of the strongest phytoestrogen containing substances. Soy includes soy products such as soybeans, soy milk, tofu, tempeh, textured vegetable protein, roasted soybeans, soy granules, miso, and edamames. I’ve even seen soy extracts used in wild yam cream that is supposed to help hormonal imbalance!! Consuming lots of phytoestrogenic foods long term can significantly increase the risk of HI. Tests show that phytoestrogens inhibit the conversion of T4 to the active T3 thyroid hormone. This can trigger hypothyroidism, which can lead to diabetes.

Alcohol increases estrogen levels in both men and women by messing with the liver enzymes which are responsible for metabolizing estrogen and breaking them down for elimination. High insulin levels created by diets high in refined carbohydrates (sugars and starches) encourage your body to create even more estrogen. If you lack regular eliminations, estrogen can sit too long in the intestines and actually be reabsorbed by the intestinal walls to increase the estrogen levels even more.

But that’s not all.

Our drinking water is being contaminated with new hazards faster than our water treatment facilities can be updated. To give you a hint, think what things are being flushed down toilets. Chemotherapy medication, heart medicine, birth control pills, antidepressants, pesticides, anti-seizure medications, sex hormones, hormone replacement therapy medication, aspirin, vitamins and caffeine are all getting washed down the drain (after passing through our bodies) and eventually into our rivers, lakes and streams. These chemicals are being found in fresh water fish. Some drugs retain nearly all of their potency as they leave the body. Female hormones (synthetic) enter the sewage system inert, but are reactivated by chemicals during water treatment. Antibiotics and hormones from animal feedlots, by way of manure and sewage spread on the land and work their way downstream.

So, what in the world can we do? There IS SOMETHING we can do? Right?

Yes. If you are having symptoms of HI (or don't want to develop them), I would look into making some of the wild yam cream following the recipe that Rebecca gave (http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,2315.0.html). Because it is a food, I would personally use it while pregnant and/or nursing because your body should be able to process it easily. BUT you’ll have to decide this for yourself. Consult your health care provider and start slow. I would make one change to the recipe by not using any animal fat (hormones!). Instead, I would use an organic, extra virgin vegetable oil (coconut?). This should help alleviate your symptoms short-term while you work on some long-term solutions.

Long term solutions:

Eliminate soy and all soy products from my diet (read labels carefully). Soy is EVERYWHERE from cooking oils and processed foods, to medications and protein shakes. Watch out for milk substitute products. You’ll have to be vigilant.

Get a high-quality water filtration unit. There is a thread on here about those (http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,474.msg3854.html#msg3854) it includes some money saving hints.

I would consider not consuming meat unless it is organic. For some, this may mean that you’ll have to watch the family enjoy beef while you eat something else, but if your system is out of whack, it needs a rest. You might have to just eat fewer servings each week, but at least you won’t be sending your hormones on a roller coaster. Between the antibiotics and hormones that are being pumped into the beef and chicken on the grocer’s shelf, it’s no wonder we’re not ourselves.

Wash all fresh fruit and vegetables very carefully. Get organic if you can. If not consider using a vegetable bath solution (http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,2308.msg20532.html#msg20532)

While you’re at it, I would try a parasite cleanse and elimination. The presence of parasites in your digestive tract can lead to constipation and elevated estrogen levels for reasons mentioned above. Additionally, parasites can contribute to joint pain and a multitude of other physical complaints. Don’t do this if you are pregnant or nursing.

I apologize for this being so long, but I just wanted to let you know what I’ve found out.

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Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2006, 09:12:48 AM » by dara

Thank you, SC! I am trying to figure out how this may be related to hypothyroid and/or adrenal problems, but am having a hard time putting the pieces together. This helps.

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« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2006, 09:31:32 AM » by Kati*did

That's a great post, SC. Thanks! I have been told for years that I am a likely candidate for this because of extra amounts of insulin taken for diabetes. But here's what's confusing me right now: You were talking about the short term fix of making a wild yam cream to raise progesterone levels -- why is it that in various posts, some women want this so they can get pregnant and some want it so that they won't get pregnant? Does it work one way if you're healthy and another way if you're not? I'm sorry, this may be a very basic question.

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« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2006, 10:46:18 AM » by kamom

From what I understand, progestrone levels rise after ovulation,thus sustaining the lining and helping conception so this is when you want to use the cream but if used all through the cycle it can hinder ovulation alltogether thus perventing pregnancy. Am I correct?

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« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2006, 10:47:22 AM » by SC

Quote from: dara on October 14, 2006, 09:12:48 AM

Thank you, SC! I am trying to figure out how this may be related to hypothyroid and/or adrenal problems, but am having a hard time putting the pieces together. This helps.

Okay, your endocrine system is made up of several glands that include your thyroid, pituitary, adrenal, thymus, pancreas, ovaries (in women) and testes (in men). This is in addition to tissue throughout the body (breasts, fatty tissue) that secrete predetermined amounts of hormones into the bloodstream. Hormones (estrogen and others) direct a multitude of body functions. Hormone molecules (or hormone type chemicals and/or compounds) travel through your bloodstream and are picked up by receptors throughout your body. These receptors and the hormone molecule join together; they send a signal to cells to take certain actions (i.e. make a certain protein or multiply). Estrogen is just one of the hormones our body uses for this task (progesterone, testosterone, DHEA, melatonin, insulin, cortisol, and thyroid hormones are a few more). All of these interact with each other to create an intricate concert which operates the release, stimuli, and feedback mechanisms between molecules and their target organs. The more these are studied by science, the more intricate and delicate (while resilient) we discover this process truly is. So, your adrenals, thyroid and estrogen balance all have an affect on each other -- just as your vocal chords will respond when you break your toe -- it's all part of the whole.

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« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2006, 11:22:59 AM » by SC

Quote from: Kati*did on October 14, 2006, 09:31:32 AM

You were talking about the short term fix of making a wild yam cream to raise progesterone levels -- why is it that in various posts, some women want this so they can get pregnant and some want it so that they won't get pregnant? Does it work one way if you're healthy and another way if you're not? I'm sorry, this may be a very basic question.

No, that's a very good question. There isn't any simple answer. Anything you take into your body is only as effective as your body's ability to assimilate it. Just as a child without proper digestive enzymes can eat a balanced diet and still be malnourished, your body only benefits from that which it can properly utilize to address your health issues. This is why the same medicine/herb/treatment in the same dose/frequency/amount isn't right for everyone. Much is determined by the individual's condition.

So, what role does progesterone play in our monthly cycle? It is a bit player in a large production of carefully balanced players.

During the last part of your bleeding, the hypothalamus (part of your endocrine system) releases a hormone that tells the pituitary gland to release two other hormones that prepare another egg to ripen in your follicle. The follicle produces estrogen which steadily builds in the days preceding ovulation. The presence of estrogen causes the uterine lining to build up. Meanwhile, your ovary is producing substances that tell the pituitary gland to stop with the hormones so that only one egg will mature. Just prior to ovulation, estrogen levels climb rapidly.

When the estrogen in your blood reaches a certain level, it triggers another hormone (luteinizing hormone -- LH) level to increase in the blood. Estrogen also causes vaginal secretions to change, setting the stage for potential pregnancy. The increase level of LH triggers the release of the egg from the ovary into the fallopian tubes beginning what is referred to as a Luteal Phase.

The now empty egg follicle produces progesterone as the estrogen level drops off. The progesterone temporarily maintains the uterine lining for about 12 days. At this point the empty egg follicle atrophies and the progesterone level drops, triggering menstruation a couple of days later.

If pregnancy occurs, the presence of the baby triggers continued progesterone production (like the egg follicle handed off the baton), preventing menstruation. The placenta continues to produce progesterone throughout pregnancy.

So, the theory behind wild yam for birth control is that it raises the progesterone level relative to the estrogen level and can prevent (in sufficient doses) ovulation (because the estrogen level doesn't reach a high enough level -- relative to the progesterone -- to cause ovulation). However, the amount required would differ from one individual to the next relative to how well the body was able to process/respond to the wild yam.

When a woman is pregnant, wild yam cream can help maintain the pregnancy if there are no other major complications. However this caution, she should not discontinue use once it has begun. To stop taking wild yam could cause the progesterone levels to drop suddenly and trigger a miscarriage (as the body does during the start of a regular period).

In an instance where there is estrogen dominance and the accompanying symptoms, wild yam can help reestablish the balance needed to normalize her system. For women experiencing problems with conception due to a hormonal imbalance, this could help reestablish the pattern needed to achieve pregnancy.

I'm just glad God thought of all this. It can make your head spin after a while.

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« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2006, 11:43:49 AM » by SC

While I'm flooding you with information, you may be wondering what the symptoms of HI (hormonal imbalance) are. There are many. I found the following that lines up pretty much with everything else I have found and puts it in a simple format. Generally, the mild symptoms will be seen in younger women. Moderate symptoms in the mid to late 30's, followed by severe symptoms by the time you reach your 40s. This, of course will vary according to the individual.

Mild Symptoms of Hormonal Imbalance
Premenstrual breast tenderness
Premenstrual mood swings
Premenstrual fluid retention, weight gain
Menstrual cramps

Moderate Symptoms of Hormonal Imbalance
Irregular menstruation
Weight gain
Hair loss
Depression
Fatigue
Thyroid dysfunction
Adrenal gland fatigue
Headaches, migraines
Severe menstrual cramps
Heavy periods with clotting
Joint and muscle pain
Decreased libido
Insomnia and restless sleep
Dry eyes

Severe Symptoms of Hormonal Imbalance
Uterine fibroid tumors
En dometriosis
Polycystic ovary syndrome
Breast tumors
Infertility
Thickened uterine lining
Accelerated aging
Miscarriage
Anxiety and panic attacks
Autoimmune disorders

If you have as few as 6 of these symptoms, you may want to consider the possibility that you have a hormonal imbalance.

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Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2006, 12:53:39 PM » by mykidsmom

Hi all,

This info is right on the button. So many of the problems women are having with hormones are food related (what they're putting in our foods). It is important that if one is going to do HRT (even natural HRT) that they also change their diet otherwise you're working against yourself.

I want to add a word or two on HRT (ALL hormone therapy - natural or synthetic is HRT). I really like to caution people that using OTC progesterone creams or even making your own is not an exact science. One problem with both of those is that every women needs a different amount of progesterone depending on her bodies needs. What's in OTC's and homemades is not necessarily formulated just right for that woman. Also, getting an exact measure squeezing out of a tube is difficult. If someone is in need of progesterone I really recommend they find a natural practioner that can test theirs and see exactly what they need and then have a pharmacy compound it for them. The cream is put in syringes w/o a needle and the exact amount that person needs is squeezed onto a finger and rubbed in as required.

That said..... hormone caused cancers do not differentiate between natural and synthetic hormone sources. The body treats the hormones the same regardless of source. It does with them what it needs to.

I'm guessing right about now people are wondering what the bejeebies they're supposed to do then! First, change your diet. Get rid of everything SC said to. You have to get the hormones out of the food you eat. My family eats meet every day. But I only buy organic, non-hormone, non-antiobiotic meat. Yep. It gets expensive. I spend about $250 every 5-6 weeks on meat alone. We use only dairy that comes from cows that are organic. But for where we live I have discovered that we spend no more on food then most of my friends do even with the organic stuff. You just have to be creative.

Second, I am one of those that had to take progesterone. I had nearly none. I ended up taking a bio-progesterone formulated just for me for a year and a half. Knowing the whole cancer risk thing I came off of it to see if my body is producing enough of its own now since I've made lots of diet changes. I just got my saliva test results back in the mail today and I've made great strides but my progesterone is still too low. So I will go back on the progesterone for another 6 months and retest. Basically, I'll take the hormones until my body is fully recovered. I think the important thing for people to know is the body can and will repair itself but it does take time. In my case it looks like it's going to take about 2 1/2yrs of consistent diet changes and HRT.

There's my two cents worth. God made our bodies and I believe he made our bodies to heal themselves if we feed them the right stuff. Unfortunately, it does take time to undo years of damage we've caused with the foods we've eaten, etc.

Hope this helps.

Patti

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Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2006, 01:21:33 PM » by Amey

Thanks for all this info, SC and Patti. Very much appreciated. I'm interested in how hormone imbalance might cause auto-immune/thryoid disorders. I'm wondering how the essential fatty acids play into all of this. Evening primrose oil is an omega-6 and cod liver oil is an omega 3. And of course evening primrose oil is supposed to be a great hormone regulator. Any thoughts on this? This all seems so very complicated, but I am enjoying all this research and hearing from everyone here on these topics.

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Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2006, 01:40:41 PM » by SC

Quote from: Amey on October 14, 2006, 01:21:33 PM

I'm interested in how hormone imbalance might cause auto-immune/thryoid disorders.
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Any thoughts on this? This all seems so very complicated, but I am enjoying all this research and hearing from everyone here on these topics.

I haven't researched the relationship of oils yet, but I have a theory about the auto-immune difficulties (thyroid issues are addressed in earlier posts of this thread).

IMO, parasites -- whether yeast overgrowth, worms, or amoebas -- help set the stage for both auto-immune disorders and hormone imbalance. These little invaders cause matter to become adhered to the intestinal wall where bad bacteria starts to breed and multiply. This can start a chain reaction of allergic responses and depleted immune system function that can lead to immune disorders. In addition, the estrogen that the body had sent to the intestine for disposal spends too much time in transit and gets reabsorbed back into the system, elevating estrogen levels. Also, some parasites release toxins into the system that have a hormonal effect on the body.

I would like to echo what Patti said earlier when she encouraged those suffering from these symptoms that we truly are wonderously and marvelously made. Given the opportunity, our bodies will use what we offer to great benefit. Sometimes, major improvements can be made with small changes over time. Be patient. Be encouraged by small progress. These small things can signal great strides.

Finally, if you aren't in a position to make all of the changes you would like. Make what changes you can. Pray with a thankful heart that you have this knowledge, and trust God to take care of the rest.

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Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2006, 02:47:05 PM » by Pennie

I have a question. I have a friend that is 39. She has no hormone parts left. She has been on an extrogen patch since she was 31. 4 yrs ago she had a TIA("mini" stroke) they told her at that hospital to take an aspirin everday for the rest of her life. Well, it started causing her tummy trouble and she quit taking it about a yr ago. then this week she has another TIA. Different state different hospital. This one is a stroke "specialty" hospital. Apparently the first side effect of the patch is....."mild" strokes. So this hospital told her remove the patch and start the asprin up again. So I knew that the wild yam cream was a natural hormone "thing" but didn't know for what, so if she needs estrogen is that going to help her? She is very open to natural stuff but has little money to spend and as I don't know alot about the horomone "front" I would like some advise on how to help her. Thanks in advance for any helps.

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Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2006, 02:49:26 PM » by ShabbyChic

Well those sure are long lists! Shocked

I'm a bit overwhelmed, but ALL of it makes sense considering the friends and family around me who are suffering from precisely what you've mentioned: fibroids, cysts, my niece starting her cycle at age 10! Sure some people begin earlier than others, but genetically speaking no one in her family started that early.

So we eat organically for about 85% of all our food consumption, and we eat raw, and if there is a baked good in our home, then I baked it from grinding the berries. But we have plastic cups and plates, and we eat lots of soy because we are almost completely vegetarian. If I cut out temped, tofu, and TVP I think we'll starve. And we live in town, so we are constantly exposed to exhaust and shower in city water.

So my question is, if I should eliminate these things from most harmful to least harmful, what would that look like? And my son will most likely wean in about 6 months. What can I do until I can cleanse? Thanks SOOO much for taking the time to type all this out.

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Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2006, 04:20:26 PM » by SC

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if I should eliminate these things from most harmful to least harmful, what would that look like? And my son will most likely wean in about 6 months. What can I do until I can cleanse?

I would want to consider a few things before I answered your first question.

For your second question, I would recommend checking out the thread on The Water Cure. Water alone can do a lot to help you flush toxins from your body. The water simply helps your body do what it was designed to do.

Your second question is the place where I would pause. Why? Because I don't live with you. I don't have to work within your budget or demands on your time and money. I don't know how your family will respond to changes in diet -- or even if you are up to taking on the extra tasks that may be involved.

If I told a very overweight person that had to struggle to get out of bed that he/she needed to exercise more, I would be technically correct. I could wash my hands of the issue, but the individual would be no better off for having met me. They would still struggle along, unable to implement my suggestion, suffering.

So, here's what I recommend. Learn all you can about those things which apply to your circumstance. Pray for God's direction and ask Him to lead you to His answers for you. Trust Him, He knows how to get you the information you need. Be willing to learn.

Then, look for opportunities to make small changes. If you are concerned about the amount of phytoestrogens (from plant sources -- soy) in your diet, then look for alternative. Why do you eat soy? If you are looking for a safe, quality protein source, check out your nearest health food store. Are you vegetarian? Check out a copy of Nourishing Traditions (by Sally Fallon) from your local library. There are lots of sources of protein to be had that are safe for both vegetarians and meat eaters, but it takes some creativity.

If you are concerned about pesticides. Try to get organic fruit and vegetables. Failing that, use a good vegetable wash (see previous link to thread above). Consider trying your hand at growing your own.

I would continue to go down the list of things, but you get the idea. With each item you see as a concern, look for a small way to improve. By this time next year, you may be able to make further improvements. It could take you ten years to reach your ideal, but you will at least be making progress. YOU are the expert on what will work best in YOUR circumstance.

In regards to the woman without any ovaries, LOL! I can't believe I'm saying this, but she may be one of the few women that would benefit from (properly fermented) soy products. She'll probably have to prepare them herself because modern processors often don't take the time. Again, check out the book by Sally Fallon for information on soaking and sprouting grains/beans. At the very least, phytoestrogens (from plants) are more easily dealt with in the body than xenoestrogens (synthetic, man-made). It may be that she is being exposed to enough environmental estrogens that she won't need much supplementation at all. She will want to have her levels monitored until she finds a regimen that works for her.

Again, the key here is in a balanced ratio of hormones. The best thing we can do is remove things which throw that balance off and provide our bodies with the tools needed to make repairs.

Try to approach this as a mystery and you are the inspector looking for clues. Learn all you can. Use what you are able to use, and be at peace. God is good. Rest in Him.

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Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2006, 06:31:59 PM » by Kati*did

SC, thank you so much for the thorough answer to my Q. DH got out his embryology book to help me understand better. Cheesy

Shabby Chic, my husband and I are also vegetarians (except that I eat fish, too). As of about 1 year ago, when I first heard about some of these things (about soy), I cut all soy out of our diet. I started getting lots of organic eggs and putting them into lots of our food. I also use raw, organic, goat milk cheese on things. I love dairy, but I'm trying to wait until I can find some raw milk. I just want to encourage you if you decide to give up soy and stay vegetarian...it will work. Cheesy

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