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  Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #120 on: February 15, 2007, 10:15:39 PM » by maideninwaiting
A small update on the thyroid.. I asked my doctor about Armour and he had a issy fit. Undecided He laughed sacrcastically saying "They don't even make it anymore! Its not even in the books anymore! It was so bad and so inconsistent and impossible to regulate people's thyroid. It is ground up thryoid from a hog and it is not efffective!" Obviously, he wasn't all right but at least I know his view on it in case I want to chage dr.s one day... Wink
I found that my T4 has been consitently between 7 and 8 over the past 6-7years that I've been treated with Levothroid. He said the norm was 5-12. It was 3 when I was tested and found it was low 8 years ago.

Anyway, I'm also back with another progesterone question. I have continued to research brands of prog. cream that gets their USP progesterone from wild yam and NOT soy. I've actually e-mailed the companies asking them to clarify if the cream contained ANY soy or soy derivatives at all. The brands I have found so far are: Syringa's "Resolve", Kokoro's "Balance", "Natural Woman", and "Happy PMS". Could someone please chime in with your opinions on the above products, especially if you have used them. I am considering ordering because I am more and more convinced that I moderately if not severely estrogen dominant. Thanks in advance!
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« Reply #121 on: March 06, 2007, 07:29:03 PM » by zmama
I'm new to the WTM site and am still trying to find my way around, so forgive me if this is in the wrong thread or has already been mentioned somewhere.  I've tried a search and it seems everything is related to estrogen dominance.  I'd appreciate any links to the information I need.  My problem is not estrogen dominance but appears to be NO estrogen.  I've just turned 41 years old.  We had our 5th child a year ago and my body has not returned to normal like it did with the other four babies.  I'll list my symptoms here and maybe someone will have an idea about where I need to start.  I've had bladder issues such as incontinence, strong urge, frequency that my ob/gyn links to low estrogen.  I have not had a menstrual cycle since she was born.  I have always gotten that back when my babies are 8 months, even while nursing.  I have no libido whatsoever...never a problem before! Wink  Marital relations are painful due to the lack of lubrication in the v*agin*l area.  Angry I have had no signs of fertility.  You get the picture.  Last August, I had thyroid levels checked by my family doctor and those were OK.  I do need to lose about 35-40 pounds.  We eat fairly healthy.

I saw my ob/gyn today and he would like to do some blood work to check hormone levels and something in my pituitary.  But he said he doesn't think he can get an accurate reading while I'm still nursing.  My baby is almost 13 months old and I'd planned to wean her by the end of the month, so that's not an issue.  But she appears to have a problem with the little bit of cow's milk and other dairy I've introduced (rosy cheeks and loose or smelly stools) so I'm looking for alternatives.  Also, she recently had an antibiotic that hurt her gut (I'm kicking myself for taking it now) and so I need to know how to get her gut healthy again.  Any links on that?

Back to today's doctor visit...he did a pelvic exam and said there appears to be no estrogen whatsoever "down there."  He wrote me a prescription for Vagifem--it's a v*gin*l suppository.  When I expressed concern about estrogen, he said it stays in that "area" and that his patients with breast cancer use that.  I'm still leery.  I looked it up and it's estradiol indicated for women in menopause to help with dryness and so forth

Does anyone have any information about something natural I could use instead of the Vagifem?  Are there any recommendations to naturally bring my hormone levels back to normal?  What if I'm in menopause--any natural recommendations for hormone replacement therapy?

Thank you...I have much more I could write or ask but will just start with this.
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« Reply #122 on: March 08, 2007, 04:47:00 PM » by freshisbest
Dr. Helen Pensanti,  www.askdrhelen.com, sells a preogesterone cream that I used for a long time while trying to have baby #4 after several miscarriages. I'm ready to start again ( using the cream! Not having another...) and am curious what others think of her stuff. She used to have a show on TBN.
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« Reply #123 on: March 08, 2007, 04:49:31 PM » by westernmama

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Does anyone have any information about something natural I could use instead of the Vagifem?  Are there any recommendations to naturally bring my hormone levels back to normal?  What if I'm in menopause--any natural recommendations for hormone replacement therapy?

I would recommend a book that was helpful to me during my miscarriages.  It is written by Dr. John Lee.  Actually, it's two books.  "What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Menopause" and "What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Premenopause".  He also has a website that I'm sure would be helpful.  You could just google his name - sorry, I don't know the exact website address.  Hope this helps a little!
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  Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #124 on: March 08, 2007, 05:32:26 PM » by Kellyj
After rereading my post I noticed I forgot to ask my question! Has anyone successfully conceived and given birth to a healthy baby being on synthroid alone?
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  Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #125 on: March 13, 2007, 12:36:53 PM » by drmom
Yes I do make wild yam without all the additives and you can too or you could get it from me.  I make it into a tincture along with a number of other good lady type herbs.  It is quite helpful with endometriosis, postpartum depression, flooding, and other types of hormonal things.
If you are interested in it you could email me at myronweaver2@gmail .com or you could make some yourself
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  Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #126 on: April 01, 2007, 11:17:20 PM » by maideninwaiting
Can someone tell me how common it is for a 26 year old woman who has never conceived or given birth to be Estrogen Dominant?
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  Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #127 on: April 02, 2007, 07:10:50 AM » by SC

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Can someone tell me how common it is for a 26 year old woman who has never conceived or given birth to be Estrogen Dominant?
VERY! imo.
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  Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #128 on: April 04, 2007, 11:09:58 AM » by healthybratt

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Can someone tell me how common it is for a 26 year old woman who has never conceived or given birth to be Estrogen Dominant?
Most likely very common.  It has more to do with environmental and cultural factors than that of age or physiology. 
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« Reply #129 on: April 04, 2007, 10:33:46 PM » by Marisa
Hi all, I'm new here. This forum is so great!!!!! I've have realy bad endo and severe estrogen dominanvce . I've been praying for direction in what to do, and found welltellme!
From what I've read, can your liver being toxic have something to do with hi? My diet is clean and unprocessed but not organic, and I've been feeling convicted about eating organic so this forum has been a blessing. I've been considering cleansing. Can anyone direct me on where to start?I'm allergic to wheat and get a rash when I eat it. I don't know if that's relative.
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  Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #130 on: April 05, 2007, 08:43:27 AM » by momof4boys
I was reading through this topic and saw where HB said she was irritable for the first couple of weeks once starting on her cream.  That is my problem right now.  I have been on my cream for about 8 days and I am miserable.  I am weepy and my moods are swinging wildly!  Can anyone recommend anything?  Should I cut my dosage or is it to soon?  Any advise would be greatly appreciated.

Deanna
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  Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #131 on: April 05, 2007, 09:51:32 AM » by healthybratt

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I was reading through this topic and saw where HB said she was irritable for the first couple of weeks once starting on her cream.  That is my problem right now.  I have been on my cream for about 8 days and I am miserable.  I am weepy and my moods are swinging wildly!  Can anyone recommend anything?  Should I cut my dosage or is it to soon?  Any advise would be greatly appreciated.

Deanna
I would cut your dose down and see how you feel.  Sounds like you're getting too much.  You can always turn your dosage back up if you feel like you're not getting the expected effects.  Just to give you an idea, I believe your progesterone levels increase during pregnancy, so just imagine if you get too much, how you might act.  Wink
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  Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #132 on: April 05, 2007, 11:24:04 AM » by momof4boys

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I wanted to add that I don't see any decrease in hot flashes.  I had a hysterectomy at the age of 29 due to fibroids and endometriosis.  Wish I had found this information 6 years ago, I would have never gone through with it.  Now I would like to get healthy both physically and hormonally.  I'll try cutting back. Thanks,
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  Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #133 on: April 05, 2007, 12:20:19 PM » by healthybratt

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I would cut your dose down and see how you feel.  Sounds like you're getting too much.  You can always turn your dosage back up if you feel like you're not getting the expected effects.  Just to give you an idea, I believe your progesterone levels increase during pregnancy, so just imagine if you get too much, how you might act.  Wink

I wanted to add that I don't see any decrease in hot flashes.  I had a hysterectomy at the age of 29 due to fibroids and endometriosis.  Wish I had found this information 6 years ago, I would have never gone through with it.  Now I would like to get healthy both physically and hormonally.  I'll try cutting back. Thanks,

Is it possible that you have issues with candida?  Candida converts progesterone to sugars which might cause you not to metabolize the progesterone correctly. 
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  Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #134 on: April 19, 2007, 11:54:34 PM » by crystal
Do any of you know if taking progesterone supplements for a long period of time will cause greater susceptibility toward cancer?  I don't take estrogen, only progesterone.
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« Reply #135 on: April 20, 2007, 01:39:37 AM » by mykidsmom
Do any of you know if taking progesterone supplements for a long period of time will cause greater susceptibility toward cancer?  I don't take estrogen, only progesterone.


My ND and I have talked pretty extensively about this.  She is a research based ND which means if she can't back something up with good research she is cautious to recommend/use, etc. that thing.  Her research has basically shown that there isn't enough research out there to know the answer to this question.  How's that for ya?!   Tongue

Her "feeling" is that any synthetic hormone can probably increase ones cancer risk but that progesterone is less likely then anything else to be an issue because of how it's used in the body.  BUT, she doesn't have the research to back that theory because it's just not out there.

patti
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« Reply #136 on: April 20, 2007, 10:30:27 AM » by crystal
Do any of you know if taking progesterone supplements for a long period of time will cause greater susceptibility toward cancer?  I don't take estrogen, only progesterone.


My ND and I have talked pretty extensively about this.  She is a research based ND which means if she can't back something up with good research she is cautious to recommend/use, etc. that thing.  Her research has basically shown that there isn't enough research out there to know the answer to this question.  How's that for ya?!   Tongue

Her "feeling" is that any synthetic hormone can probably increase ones cancer risk but that progesterone is less likely then anything else to be an issue because of how it's used in the body.  BUT, she doesn't have the research to back that theory because it's just not out there.

patti

The hormone I take is natural, bio-identical (I think that is what it is called).  I have been on progesterone of some form since 2000.  I will probably have to be on it indefinitely, we aren't certain.  When I go through menopause, we will have to rework the whole thing.  (I take the hormone to control seizures.)
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« Reply #137 on: April 20, 2007, 11:07:37 AM » by AllinHisTime

Is it possible that you have issues with candida?  Candida converts progesterone to sugars which might cause you not to metabolize the progesterone correctly. 

Is there more info on this? I didn't know that about candida and progesterone!!  I have a primary and secondary list going as to try to self-diagnose what all has been going on with me.  I know something is wrong and my symptoms fall into so many categories!  Thanks for all your help Smiley
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« Reply #138 on: May 02, 2007, 12:46:34 PM » by westernmama

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Vitex is another name for chasteberry. 

Okay (DUH  Roll Eyes)
Since chasteberry is a source of phytoestrogen, I would only use it in application for someone who was deficient of estrogen. . . . HTH

In my book by Dr. John Lee, "What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Premenopause", he says that vitex (chasteberry) is a phytohormone.  He does not list it as a phytoestrogen.  In fact, he recommends it for ladies with low progesterone.  I also searched it on the Internet and found a website that says vitex is not a phytoestrogen. You can read the whole article here: www.diagnose-me.com/treat/T165243.html  Here's an excerpt:

How does vitex help? Vitex does not act as a phytoestrogen (plant estrogen), a term commonly associated with balancing the female reproductive system. Vitex instead works through another important chemical pathway, the hypothalamus-pituitary axis, to balance female hormones. Vitex increases luteinizing hormone production while inhibiting the release of follicle stimulating hormone, leading to an indirect increase in progesterone and a normalization of prolactin levels. The combination of actions produced by vitex seems to restore the estrogen/progesterone balance.

HTH!
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« Reply #139 on: May 02, 2007, 03:31:53 PM » by Beth
Vitex is another name for chasteberry. 

Okay (DUH  Roll Eyes)
Since chasteberry is a source of phytoestrogen, I would only use it in application for someone who was deficient of estrogen. . . . HTH

In my book by Dr. John Lee, "What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Premenopause", he says that vitex (chasteberry) is a phytohormone.  He does not list it as a phytoestrogen.  In fact, he recommends it for ladies with low progesterone.  I also searched it on the Internet and found a website that says vitex is not a phytoestrogen. You can read the whole article here: www.diagnose-me.com/treat/T165243.html  Here's an excerpt:

How does vitex help? Vitex does not act as a phytoestrogen (plant estrogen), a term commonly associated with balancing the female reproductive system. Vitex instead works through another important chemical pathway, the hypothalamus-pituitary axis, to balance female hormones. Vitex increases luteinizing hormone production while inhibiting the release of follicle stimulating hormone, leading to an indirect increase in progesterone and a normalization of prolactin levels. The combination of actions produced by vitex seems to restore the estrogen/progesterone balance.

HTH!
I found this out too. I thought you shouldn' t take vitex if you were estrogen dominant. But I found the info you did so I've been taking it . You need to wait 3 to 6 months to see results. I would guess because its working on your glands to get them to produce progesterone on their own. It is not progesterone in and of itself just helps your body produce it.
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« Reply #140 on: May 22, 2007, 02:52:41 PM » by miff aka Missi
I would consider not consuming meat unless it is organic. For some, this may mean that you’ll have to watch the family enjoy beef while you eat something else, but if your system is out of whack, it needs a rest. You might have to just eat fewer servings each week, but at least you won’t be sending your hormones on a roller coaster. Between the antibiotics and hormones that are being pumped into the beef and chicken on the grocer’s shelf, it’s no wonder we’re not ourselves.
Can non-organic dairy have the same effect as non-organic meat?

I mostly eat organic meat.  I have for the last 16+ years.  BUT just recently have I started using non-homogenized, no hormone milk.  Before changing to this milk, I had 7 symptoms of hormone imbalance.  (All 4 mild, 1 in moderate, 2 in severe.)  I'm down to 1 (maybe 2) symptoms; the two in severe. 

Here's the list.  I've changed my symptoms to red.  I also had some fairly bad acne, which I thought was a HI symptoms, but don't see it listed here.  That is just about gone as well.  I actually feel like I can go out in public with not much make-up on.  (Still think I need to cover that birthmark.)   

   Re: Estrogen Dominance & Other Hormone Imbances: Causes & Cures
« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2006, 11:43:49 AM » by SC

Mild Symptoms of Hormonal Imbalance
Premenstrual breast tenderness
Premenstrual mood swings
Premenstrual fluid retention, weight gain
Menstrual cramps


Moderate Symptoms of Hormonal Imbalance
Irregular menstruation
Weight gain
Hair loss
Depression
Fatigue
Thyroid dysfunction
Adrenal gland fatigue
Headaches, migraines
Severe menstrual cramps
Heavy periods with clotting
Joint and muscle pain
Decreased libido
Insomnia and restless sleep
Dry eyes

Severe Symptoms of Hormonal Imbalance
Uterine fibroid tumors
En dometriosis
Polycystic ovary syndrome
Breast tumors
Infertility
Thickened uterine lining
Accelerated aging
Miscarriage
Anxiety and panic attacks

Autoimmune disorders

If you have as few as 6 of these symptoms, you may want to consider the possibility that you have a hormonal imbalance.

So, can changing milk make this big of a difference??

Missi
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« Reply #141 on: June 16, 2007, 03:14:34 PM » by Sunshine06
Can someone tell me how common it is for a 26 year old woman who has never conceived or given birth to be Estrogen Dominant?

VERY! imo.

I'm 24, never used birth control, never conceived or given birth, but I'm experiencing a few of the symptoms of HI. Minor ones though, so I'm not sure if they are caused by HI or something else. We eat fairly healthy - mostly organic veggies, but usually regular meat (tho the pkg says no hormones). Symptoms: mood swings, weight gain (alittle), hair loss, and (this was listed on another website as a symptom) facial hair growth. Could this be an HI?

Secondly - how do I find out? I haven't been to a dr. in years, so would I have to find one and go for some sort of a test? Or should I just start making diet changes and see if things improve? (I should add that I skimmed alot of this thread, but it's SO long that I couldn't read it all - so I'm sorry if this question has already been answered.)

Thanks.  Smiley
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« Reply #142 on: June 16, 2007, 11:33:04 PM » by mykidsmom

Absolutely.  Standard dairy is full of hormones.  When we went both dairy and meat hormone free we saw big differences in my daughter.  If you're out west, Tillamook brand is all hormone free now.  So all of our cheese is Tillamook.  Everything else is the ultra expensive organic/hormone free stuff.   Undecided  BUT, it's been worth it so it's worth whatever changes we have to make in other areas of our lives to make it happen. 

patti

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« Reply #143 on: July 20, 2007, 07:48:18 AM » by Eviesmom
Could it be possible the birth control pills may cause this?

Thanks,
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« Reply #144 on: July 20, 2007, 08:04:44 AM » by KristenA

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Birth Control pills are a hormone therapy.

Birth Control pills change your hormones levels to make your  body not ovulate and your endometrium inhospitable the conceived egg implanting.
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« Reply #145 on: July 20, 2007, 09:40:15 AM » by Eviesmom
I am going to begin with stopping those and buying hormone free milk and chicken, hormone free meat is hard to find in Dickson, TN. Anyway, going to see what changes I can make.

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« Reply #146 on: July 20, 2007, 11:09:53 AM » by denim&lace
Sunshine06
Your symptoms look a lot like insulin resistance...  check out this thread...
http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,7189.0.html



Can someone tell me how common it is for a 26 year old woman who has never conceived or given birth to be Estrogen Dominant?

VERY! imo.

I'm 24, never used birth control, never conceived or given birth, but I'm experiencing a few of the symptoms of HI. Minor ones though, so I'm not sure if they are caused by HI or something else. We eat fairly healthy - mostly organic veggies, but usually regular meat (tho the pkg says no hormones). Symptoms: mood swings, weight gain (alittle), hair loss, and (this was listed on another website as a symptom) facial hair growth. Could this be an HI?

Secondly - how do I find out? I haven't been to a dr. in years, so would I have to find one and go for some sort of a test? Or should I just start making diet changes and see if things improve? (I should add that I skimmed alot of this thread, but it's SO long that I couldn't read it all - so I'm sorry if this question has already been answered.)

Thanks.  Smiley

Insulin resistance IS a hormonal imbalance.  The excess insulin in your body is converted into testosterone which often the cause of the symptoms you've listed here...  as well as others. 

Insulin resistance is also associated with poly cystic ovary syndrome...  some seem to believe PCOS causes insulin resistance, and others believe that IR causes PCOS.  I tend to agree with the later since in my experience I was dealing with insulin imbalance (low sugars, etc.) for years before any PCOS symptoms were evident.   
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« Reply #147 on: July 20, 2007, 11:20:08 AM » by Eviesmom
That is weird I just sent you a pm asking you if it sounded similar. Cheesy
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« Reply #148 on: July 20, 2007, 11:55:42 AM » by denim&lace
That is weird I just sent you a pm asking you if it sounded similar. Cheesy

I was still working on the reply... Grin

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« Reply #149 on: July 22, 2007, 04:01:52 PM » by momi26kdz
Hi!  I mostly lurk on this forum, but after reading this, I have a question.  I was diagnosed in October 2006 with Breast Cancer.  The reports came back that my tumor was "strongly estrogen positve, >90%"  so I know that my tumor was hormonally fed.  I had a lumpectomy and a sentinel node biopsy (no cancer in my nodes, thankfully).  I've went through 4 rounds of chemo, and 33 radiation treatments.  I am now on Tamoxifen.  I am also 39 years old, have had 2 live births and 4 miscarriages, and have also gained about 50lbs in the last few years.  Basically I have lots of the symptoms on the list that was previously posted. 
So my question in this......would the Wild Yam cream be to my advantage?  Are there certain foods that are "anti-estrogen"?  I've heard that cruciferous vegetables are, like cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower.  What else would you recommend?
Blessings,
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