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  Re: MRSA: Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus USA 300
« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2007, 03:47:07 PM » by Eviesmom
 I am glad that I am not the only one... I try not to be too concerned with germs but this is worrying me some. 
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« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2007, 11:54:22 PM » by happysprings5
Alot of people have MRSA (including my DD who is 3.5)...SHe has no signs right now, but we are still using the nose cream and collidial silver.
I would like more input from those who have it, or had it and have gotten rid of it. It is all over our town too. Twice articles have been in  the newspaper w/ in the past month and it is all over the news.
Any other input on MRSA?
~Wendy
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« Reply #32 on: October 23, 2007, 06:36:24 AM » by andeebeth
My son has been dealing with staph for a year and a half now. He was hospitalized last August (06) with a staph infection in his lymph node. (You can see pics of him on my blog.  http://wtsnworld.blogspot.com/

Anyway..it didn't respond to regular antibiotics, and they were concerned about resistant staph, but it turned out not to be. It just needed drained. But he's since dealt with those staph bumps on his little body from time to time. He'd get one on his belly, it would get really, really red, pus filled, and take weeks to heal. I finally took him back in last month and he said to just put mupirocin on it (bactroban) and swab his nose with it for three days, twice a day. If he keeps getting them then I have to bring him back in to swab his nose for a culture. He thinks staph is colonized in his nose, and he wants to check for the resistant staph again. Anyway...finally, my question is.. Is there something else I could try on his staph bump on his belly to help it go away? It's not pus filled anymore..but still very red. Just kinda stays the same. This is the third one like this..takes weeks to "heal"..and then gradually fades away. He's had them on his face too, but they clear up more quickly.
I haven't been too concerned about it though over the past few months..and none of my other children have had a staph problem. (and I can tell you with five little boys, they've shared baths, toys, towels, etc etc,etc)
Thanks!

~andrea
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« Reply #33 on: October 23, 2007, 09:02:18 AM » by smithzonian
Anyway...finally, my question is.. Is there something else I could try on his staph bump on his belly to help it go away?
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Wikipedia says raw honey has been effective.

Perhaps put some under a bandage of some sort?
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  Re: MRSA: Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus USA 300
« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2007, 03:12:55 PM » by herbalmom
I would use tea tree ess oil on his belly. I have a post earlier in ths thread on what to look  for in good tea tree oil.

He could also gently sniff the tea tree oil (just sniff above the open bottle) or you could diffuse the tea tree ess oil into the air to get it into his nose & sinuses in case it is in his nose.

Another idea would be to use Nutibiotic's nasal spray. It contains Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE) which is anti bacterial even against antibiotic resistant bacteria. The nose spray runs around $10 a bottle & what my mom used to do is to refill it with her own mixture or 1 cup pure water, a TINY, TINY bit of Vit C powder & 1-2 drops Nutribiotic's GSE. She would refill the bottle when it ran out with this mixture & just toss the rest.

This thread has good info on flushing the nose & sinuses:

lPlugged Ears: Remedies for Ear Congestion

If you flushed his nose & sinuses on a reg basis for a while with either the mixture I mentioned above or say 1 cup water, 1/4 teaspoon salt & 1-2 drops Nutribiotic's GSE then it should knock out any staph in his nose &/or sinuses.

Keep in mind that if you use Beeyoutiful's GSE it is TWICE as strong as Nutribiotic's so adjust the amount.

HTH Blessings ~herbalmom

My son has been dealing with staph for a year and a half now. He was hospitalized last August (06) with a staph infection in his lymph node. (You can see pics of him on my blog.  http://wtsnworld.blogspot.com/

Anyway..it didn't respond to regular antibiotics, and they were concerned about resistant staph, but it turned out not to be. It just needed drained. But he's since dealt with those staph bumps on his little body from time to time. He'd get one on his belly, it would get really, really red, pus filled, and take weeks to heal. I finally took him back in last month and he said to just put mupirocin on it (bactroban) and swab his nose with it for three days, twice a day. If he keeps getting them then I have to bring him back in to swab his nose for a culture. He thinks staph is colonized in his nose, and he wants to check for the resistant staph again. Anyway...finally, my question is.. Is there something else I could try on his staph bump on his belly to help it go away? It's not pus filled anymore..but still very red. Just kinda stays the same. This is the third one like this..takes weeks to "heal"..and then gradually fades away. He's had them on his face too, but they clear up more quickly.
I haven't been too concerned about it though over the past few months..and none of my other children have had a staph problem. (and I can tell you with five little boys, they've shared baths, toys, towels, etc etc,etc)
Thanks!

~andrea

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« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2007, 05:46:02 PM » by healthybratt

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My son has been dealing with staph for a year and a half now.
Read this regarding Neem and sepsis.

http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,785.msg5107.html#msg5107.

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  Re: MRSA: Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus USA 300
« Reply #36 on: October 30, 2007, 12:56:45 PM » by freshisbest
Check out this BBC Article on Garlic Cures:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3344325.stm

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« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2007, 03:59:05 PM » by shawnaincov
I have a 4 month old that I have seen some pimple like bumps on, and I also have had some.  I have given him Garlic Tea and I have some Neem oil.  I guess what I need to know is how can I treat him?  I read that I shouldn't give him the silver. (I think) I DO NOT want to give him antibiotics.  We have been fighting with thrush as it is anyway.  I have been giving him 1 TT a day too.  Please if anyone has any suggetions on how much Neem to use, or if the garlic could be done better than in the tea let me know.
Thank you
Shawna
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« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2007, 07:15:07 PM » by stebs7
Over a year ago, our son got a staph infection on an island in the Fiji Islands while on outreach during his mission school.  From long distance, I told him to use the colloidal silver he had, Master Tonic, Vit C and bee propolis.  It went away.  Then he was in the States (we are missionaries in Poland) and it popped up again on his inner leg and butt.  He used Goot and it helped temporarily until he got back home.  I put bee propolis on it and it started to dry up  - didn't need to drain it - we also put tea tree oil on it.  It went away.

Yesterday, another one popped up,, I mixed some honey and bee propolis and it started closing up and was no longer inflamed or red - looks very good.  The main thing that is working is the Bee Propolis.  We make it ourselves and is much better than most bought products.  The reason that is so is because we use raw propolis.  The purifying means they have heated up the raw propolis and strained off the wax and other things they consider impurities and then freeze it and then some other steps.  The smell is putrid compared to the raw.  Also, without the wax in there, the raw propolis (after making a tincture using grain alcohol) is very stinging - the wax puts a thin layer on any open wound and protects it from even the grain alcohols sting - the propolis made with the pure stings so bad you want to cut that part of your body off).

Bee Propolis kills bacteria and whatever is causing the infection in just a day or two and then takes another day or so for the hole to heal up.  Its quite amazing.  Our son is also taking the Oil of Oregano by mouth and the bee propolis in water (1/2 tsp) several times a day to try to get to the internal source - though after reading here today, we will swab the nose with tea tree oil to see if that does anythings.

Remember the wax in it is important and the other stuff that may be in it (twigs, etc) can be discarded and the rest chopped up into a powder and added to the grain alcohol.  The proportions are 100 grams of raw propolis to 1/2 litre of grain alcohol (the highest percentage).  If you need to ask me a question, please send me an email:  stebs7@poczta.onet.pl because I don't get to read the site often.

Nancy in Poland
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« Reply #39 on: November 10, 2007, 12:34:45 AM » by havasmama_05
It's hit our town and it's a bit scary. A friend at church told us tonight that his brother has the staph infection, getting it from his nephew who doesn't go to school. He bought c. silver because he heard that it's the only thing killing the "bug". I was wondering what info anyone else can give me about remedies, cures, etc. I know grape seed oil (grapefruit as well Huh) is supposed to kill it. What application/dosage should be used? Also, heard that cinnamon kills it as well. Application/dosage? Garlic? Anyone have any ideas about applying honey (thinking of Shoshanna's story of the motorcycle couple)? My friend's brother has the infection in his thigh. Any info would really help.

Thanks so much everyone!!!!!
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« Reply #40 on: November 10, 2007, 01:35:04 AM » by herbalmom
It's GRAPEFRUIT SEED EXTRACT (GSE) not grape seed oil that is a potent anti bacterial, antifungal, etc. Here is a doesage chart for NutiBiotic's GSE. Keep in mind that if you use Beeyoutiful's GSE it is twice as strong so adjust the doseage.

NutriBiotic GSE Usage Chart

60 drops of GSE to a quart of water in a spray bottle makes a good disinfectant spray that can be used on surfaces to disinfect them, sprayed directly on clothes that came in contact with the wound & let sit for several minutes before washing to kill the bacteria in the fabric & can be used on the wound itself as a disinfectant. It can also be taken orally as an antibiotic/antifungal.

Tea tree ess oil would be an excellent choice to apply to the wound. Tea tree oil is a POTENT antibacterial/antifungal (it is possible that there could be some fungus mixed with the bacteria ) that gets under/into the skin & kills the bacteria under the skin. Tea tree actually works BETTER in the presence of infection. If he doesn't have any, he will want to look for some w/the LOWEST 1,8 cineole content & the HIGHEST Terpinen-4-ol content. The cineole can be irritating so you want that to be low; the terpinen is penetrating & healing so you want it to be high. I don't usually use Gaia products b/c they are new age/mother earth but their tea tree oil is reasonably priced & has a cineole content of 2.5% & average terpinen content of 39%. Melaleuca's tea tree oil which is very good quality but costs much more & isn't carried in HFS is 36/5 & their extra strong/extra gentle is 40/3.

Oreganol (brand name) from North American Herb & Spice is also a very potent antibacterial & antifungal This is ess. oregano oil mixed w/olive oil. Super strength is 3x's stronger than reg. strength. It comes in capsules & liquid. There are other brands of oregano that are cheaper but oregano is frequently miss identified &/or sub. w/cheaper oils that can be toxic. NAH&S oregano isn't toxic & has the medical research to back it up. They have medical research showing that it kills anthrax. Here is a link to their web site:

North American Herb & Spice

Check out the web site & books by Dr. Cass Ingram to find out more ways to use Oreganol. Oreganal is antibacterial, antifungal, & antiviral so it will get to the root of the problem. Just so you know, because the oil is taken under the tongue & absorbed through the mouth into the bloodsteam less is needed so it costs less to use than the caps but the oil is STRONG. When my DH has walking pneumonia he takes 6-10 drops of the TRIPLE STRENGTH Oreganol under the tongue SEVERAL (6-8) times a day. It is STRONG but effective. You need less if you take it under the tongue than if you take it by capsules. I take it in capsules because I can't handle it in the mouth. I take 24 drops in a capsule also several times a day. Oreganol does come in gelatin capsules each containing 6 drops of Oreganol but I fill my own capsules with the liquid because I use a large dose & it costs less to fill my own capsules. 

As I said above, Grapefruit Seed Extract can also be taken orally as a potent antibacterial & antifungal. Studies have shown that it is effective against antibiotic resistant bacteria. When I take it I take it the same way as I do Oreganol- 24 drops in a gelatin capsule several times a day. (Keep in mind that I use NutriBiotic's GSE- Beeyoutiful's is twice as strong) 24 drops of either Oreganol or GSE is a LARGE dose but I weigh about 235 lbs & have MAJOR yeast/fungus issues which is what I usually take it for.  NutriBiotic has GSE tablets but I never use them. They rattle in the bottle so I assume they are hard tablets & filling gelatin capsules myself with the liquid insures that it breaks down completely & is fully absorbed. You cannot prefill the gelatin capsules with Oreganol or GSE- it will seep through & make a mess.

A book that has lots of good info is:

Herbal Antibiotics : Natural Alternatives For Treating Drug-Resistant Bacteria by Stephen Harrod Buhner

HTH Blessings ~herbalmom 

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« Reply #41 on: November 10, 2007, 01:52:43 AM » by havasmama_05
It's GRAPEFRUIT SEED EXTRACT (GSE) not grape seed oil that is a potent anti bacterial, antifungal, etc.

Duh! I knew that Embarrassed. I've got 'oil' on the brain. Isn't Beeyoutiful's Grape Seed Crush? That's what I meant. Not oil Roll Eyes. I was wondering if there's a difference between grape seed and grapefruit seed.

Thanks for all the info. It's some reading I'll have to do in the morning.
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« Reply #42 on: November 10, 2007, 01:54:44 AM » by havasmama_05
K, so I answered my own question. Theirs is grapeFRUIT. I'm on it now. I even have a bottle of it in my cupboard, along with GSE. Sheesh! Cheesy
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« Reply #43 on: November 10, 2007, 01:58:29 AM » by herbalmom
Don't feel bad, we all have moments like that. I hope my info helps. I had never heard of this strain of bacteria before your post but the info I gave should help with ANY 'super bug' type bacteria. Blessings ~herbalmom
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« Reply #44 on: November 10, 2007, 08:51:19 AM » by littlemama24

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A friend of mine sells YOung Living Essential Oils and they say that their oil blend called "Thieves" is reported to be able to kill Staph as well as many others.  It has cinnamon and cloves and a bunch of others.  I haven't looked into the oils yet but thought I'd mention what I was told... Smiley
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« Reply #45 on: November 10, 2007, 04:15:26 PM » by havasmama_05
I've got powered propolis in caps from Beeyoutiful. Can that be used for topical treatment. In making your own, where do you get the raw stuff? Do you keep bees or buy it in the raw?
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« Reply #46 on: November 10, 2007, 07:07:10 PM » by stebs7
I've got powered propolis in caps from Beeyoutiful. Can that be used for topical treatment. In making your own, where do you get the raw stuff? Do you keep bees or buy it in the raw?

It really depends on how they made the propolis they put it their capsules.  I remember that Dr. Christopher Deatheredge told me many moons ago that grain alchol is needed to extract (that's why its called an extract) the vital essence needed to heal from herbs, etc.  I had been using propolis by that time for my sinus infections - and for all these years, I have taken propolis at the first sign of itching eyes, sneezing and runny nose  and it clears up without ever going further (whereas before I would get such a sinus infection that only an antibiotic could take the pain away - that was before God taught be about natural alternatives.  I haven't been to a doctor (20 years) since except for my pregnancies (and sometimes I wouldn't even go until I was 7 months along).  3 of our 5 children have never been to a doctor in their life either - the older one was only once and the second one was when he experienced his first epileptic attack (never put him on drugs - 12 years epilepsy and the last 4 with only one attack because of giving him glyconutrients)

You can buy propolis from bee keepers that take the time to pull it off of the frames - there was a guy in Michigan, Stakich, that I bought the pure stuff from - you could buy raw from him also back then - I didn't know better and ordered the pure - and without the wax it will make you scream when put on an open wound. Smiley

Sorry for running on - don't know how to be "to the point" Smiley

Blessings, Nancy in Poland
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« Reply #47 on: November 10, 2007, 07:10:50 PM » by stebs7
However, you can definitely try using the propolis capsules and see - I would open them up and mix them with a little bit of honey to put on gauze on the staph infection - and doing that a few times per day.

Hope this will help someone one day.  Blessings, Nancy in Poland
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« Reply #48 on: November 10, 2007, 10:21:58 PM » by havasmama_05
Just wanted to give an update on my friend's brother with the staph in his leg. Yesterday, my friend ran into our chiropracter friend who used to go to our church, which was a total God thing, b/c they never see each other. In talking, Dr. DC got my friend some c. silver for his brother's infection. Last night, the brother's leg was so bad that he was considering going into the hospital to have the infection cut out, if possible. Instead, he took a dose of the c. silver. By this morning, he said it was 100% better. Took another dose and put it on his leg as well. Praise God!!! He is so awesome!

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« Reply #49 on: April 01, 2008, 08:36:58 AM » by Pennie

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I saw that on dr phil he was going to talk about mrsa so I went to his site and read it for today.  I had already been thinking about buying a lysol can for my purse for public restrooms but then I thought maybe I could just get some of my GSE and carry that around in a bottle.  Not sure how strong I should make it.  I was curious though how does a can of lysol kill it on a surface but a really strong antibiotic won't kill it?  I would have not even ever have heard of MRSA were I not a member of this forum.  I already was intent on staying out of hospitals but now even more. 
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« Reply #50 on: April 01, 2008, 01:07:38 PM » by jhandrh
I saw that on dr phil he was going to talk about mrsa so I went to his site and read it for today.  I had already been thinking about buying a lysol can for my purse for public restrooms but then I thought maybe I could just get some of my GSE and carry that around in a bottle.  Not sure how strong I should make it.  I was curious though how does a can of lysol kill it on a surface but a really strong antibiotic won't kill it?  I would have not even ever have heard of MRSA were I not a member of this forum.  I already was intent on staying out of hospitals but now even more. 


From what I understand (and this is strictly from the medical side of things, not natural) the reason MRSA is easily killed by lysol or other good disinfectant is that it needs to be in bodily fluid to stay alive.  I am the infection control officer for our ambulance league and just did a training on MRSA a few months ago.  It used to be something we saw in patients in nursing homes or those in weakened conditions who had been in the hospital a lot.  No more--now it's throughout the general public.
Here is a link to the CDC website where I got some information on what to be alert for in our patients, and how to keep from spreading it to ourselves or anyone else.  I am still looking for a site that explains the mechanics of why this bacteria is easily killed on surfaces but not in the body.  I'll keep looking.

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dhqp/ar_mrsa_ca_clinicians.html#8

But as far as protecting yourself--when I do my trainings I tell people that the bottom line is "if it's not your body fluid, you don't want to touch it.  Do whatever you have to do to keep it off you.  (gloves, gowns, mask w/ eye protection, etc.)"    Obviously, this is a little extreme for general day to day use because you can't wear gloves every time you open a door just in case someone left germs on the doorknob.  But the main way this kind of stuff is transmitted is on your hands, so washing your hands often is the best thing you will do to protect yourself.  Or disinfecting them if you are on the go.  Also, don't share towels or athletic equipment, and wash all in hot hot water.  And keep in mind that when you are in a public place, you have no idea who washed their hands after using the bathroom, who picked their nose and touched other surfaces, etc.  so disinfect your hands accordingly. HTH.
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« Reply #51 on: April 01, 2008, 01:38:40 PM » by Pennie

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I saw that on dr phil he was going to talk about mrsa so I went to his site and read it for today.  I had already been thinking about buying a lysol can for my purse for public restrooms but then I thought maybe I could just get some of my GSE and carry that around in a bottle.  Not sure how strong I should make it.  I was curious though how does a can of lysol kill it on a surface but a really strong antibiotic won't kill it?  I would have not even ever have heard of MRSA were I not a member of this forum.  I already was intent on staying out of hospitals but now even more. 


From what I understand (and this is strictly from the medical side of things, not natural) the reason MRSA is easily killed by lysol or other good disinfectant is that it needs to be in bodily fluid to stay alive.  I am the infection control officer for our ambulance league and just did a training on MRSA a few months ago.  It used to be something we saw in patients in nursing homes or those in weakened conditions who had been in the hospital a lot.  No more--now it's throughout the general public.
Here is a link to the CDC website where I got some information on what to be alert for in our patients, and how to keep from spreading it to ourselves or anyone else.  I am still looking for a site that explains the mechanics of why this bacteria is easily killed on surfaces but not in the body.  I'll keep looking.

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dhqp/ar_mrsa_ca_clinicians.html#8

But as far as protecting yourself--when I do my trainings I tell people that the bottom line is "if it's not your body fluid, you don't want to touch it.  Do whatever you have to do to keep it off you.  (gloves, gowns, mask w/ eye protection, etc.)"    Obviously, this is a little extreme for general day to day use because you can't wear gloves every time you open a door just in case someone left germs on the doorknob.  But the main way this kind of stuff is transmitted is on your hands, so washing your hands often is the best thing you will do to protect yourself.  Or disinfecting them if you are on the go.  Also, don't share towels or athletic equipment, and wash all in hot hot water.  And keep in mind that when you are in a public place, you have no idea who washed their hands after using the bathroom, who picked their nose and touched other surfaces, etc.  so disinfect your hands accordingly. HTH.
Thanks.  That does.  Do drs not generally name it for people?  My sister had an older friend that already had a compromised immune system.  Went in the hospital for one thing and died of a "really bad infection."  I am now wondering if it was MRSA but it just wasn't given a name.  And then I know a lady who recently had brain surgery to drain or remove a cyst.  Seemingly "simple" went home doing well and then got a "really bad" infection that antibitics weren't working on and well, I think they said they couldn't give her antis b/c it was a brain infection.  Anyway now she will have to have a plate put in and her dr told her that "technically" she should have brain damage.  SO WE know by the grace of God she will recover.  They told her only 1 to 2 percent of people get this infection.  Although I never heard it have a name.  Now I wonder..........
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« Reply #52 on: April 01, 2008, 04:59:10 PM » by jhandrh
It should be on her chart IF they cultured it.  Sometimes they don't and you have to ask to be checked for it.  And if it is only an infection that is in 1-2% of the population, I think MRSA would be a lot more common than that.  A lot of people have it and never know it--if their immune systems are good it doesn't give them a problem.  But yeah, she may have had something like that, or VRE (another nasty antibiotic resistant infection) or something similar, and they may not have told you because of HIPPA or other reasons.  who knows.  The whole disclosure thing is hard to deal with because people need to know what they are being exposed to IMO, but yet nobody is allowed to give out information.  That's why I stress not taking for granted that people don't have nasty germs--they can look like clean people with good hygiene and still be carrying something you don't want to get.  and if you have an infection that doesn't go away with treatment, I'd recommend getting it cultured so you know what you are dealing with.
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« Reply #53 on: April 09, 2008, 08:39:16 AM » by MommabyHisgrace
Just wanted to chime in here.  We have been dealing with MRSA for over 10 months now as a family.  First my ds (4), then 1month later my ds (12), and then my dd (2).  If I had not asked if it was MRSA I would not have been told!  While dealing with it for the first two children I did not take precautions as well as I would have had I known how contagious it was.  So when my little one got it the MRSA had gotten so deep that she had to have it surgically removed.  12 inches of gauze had to be taken out of her bottom and then repacked everyday!  Nurses had to come to the house for two weeks after a 5 day hospital stay.  It was so traumatic--she had nightmares up until just a month ago.  All this to say be careful--take precautions and if you end up with a staph infection--PRAY!  God is so faithful and good!  My dd is just now getting over a boil after not having one for 5 months.  I believe it's in her body and this could be something she may have to battle for a while if not all her life.  It's scary stuff but I'm learning more and more that I have to trust in the Lord and lean not on my own understanding!   Those of you have been in correspondence with me during all of this--thank you--your support and encouragement has meant  a lot. 
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« Reply #54 on: April 09, 2008, 09:12:12 AM » by KristenA

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This may be a dumb question but.... Why do docs prescribe antibiotics to MRSA if is it anti-biotic resistant?
It appears from what I've read from nurses is that you need to build the body to get rid of this 'normal' flora? Don't antibiotics lower the immune system?
I don't get it. (but I really am asking about the reasons behind this treatment theory)
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« Reply #55 on: April 09, 2008, 09:16:36 AM » by jenny4wen
They think that if they give you a bigger, stronger antibiotic for a longer period of time, you can muscle the MRSA out.  It just really reeks havoc on your body. 
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« Reply #56 on: April 09, 2008, 09:45:27 AM » by MommabyHisgrace
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This may be a dumb question but.... Why do docs prescribe antibiotics to MRSA if is it anti-biotic resistant?
It appears from what I've read from nurses is that you need to build the body to get rid of this 'normal' flora? Don't antibiotics lower the immune system?
I don't get it. (but I really am asking about the reasons behind this treatment theory)
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From what I can tell--Methicillin stands for penicillin.  So it's resistant to this particular antibiotic not all antibiotics.  That's what they tell you anyway.  The last few months all I have been doing is boosting my dd immune system--zinc, liquid chlorophyll to purify the blood, probiotics, and either colloidal silver or colostrum.  This last boil wasn't nearly as bad as the first one.  Hopefully her body will just fight away!!! Smiley  If you do have to be on an antibiotic it is so important to replace the good bacteria so your body can fight it off.  I think that's why so many people (healthy people) are having trouble with getting rid of it or even worse dying from it, IM very humble O.
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« Reply #57 on: April 09, 2008, 11:46:19 AM » by Mrs. B

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This may be a dumb question but.... Why do docs prescribe antibiotics to MRSA if is it anti-biotic resistant?
It appears from what I've read from nurses is that you need to build the body to get rid of this 'normal' flora? Don't antibiotics lower the immune system?
I don't get it. (but I really am asking about the reasons behind this treatment theory)
It is resistant to methicillin, or your penicillin derived drugs and other classes of antibiotics.
It is sensitive to Vancomycin only... this is what is given IV, intravenously, in the hospital to treat it.
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« Reply #58 on: April 09, 2008, 03:16:58 PM » by wyomama3
My husband recently responded to an ambulance call.  It was to a dear, sweet elderly woman in our community who has been in and out of the hospital fighting 'infection'.  When dh got home he woke me up to say that I should not touch the clothes in the washer and that I needed to get onto my "that website" and find out how to disinfect the clothes.  It's two a.m. and I am mumbling "why"?  He said that when they called the patient in the hospital told them to take extra precaution because the patient had a history of a 'bad bug'.  They never said, but I immediately told dh MRSA!  The search engine on WTM was down so I winged it.  The washer got fresh garlic squeezed into it, tea tree oil, and a lot of GSE (I probably went overboard with the GSE, but I'm not apologizing!)  Dh showered before he woke me up, and I sent him back to scrub any lesions with tea tree and we rubbed GSE on his hands when he got out. 
I wish the hospital would be more forthcoming in saying MRSA outright, but they probably don't want to scare patients away.  Even if it means compromising the education and health of it's first responders... Angry.  They never told them what to do, just to be careful.  The local volunteer EMT's were the ones who said that a superdisinfectant needed to be used on self and clothing.
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« Reply #59 on: April 09, 2008, 03:31:11 PM » by BJ_BOBBI_JO

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  It used to be something we saw in patients in nursing homes or those in weakened conditions who had been in the hospital a lot.  No more--now it's throughout the general public.

That is what I have been thinking also. I have not been out in the workforce in about 9 years but when I did work in the medical field I remember having had taken care of several patients with flesh eating illnesses. I don't remember them being called MRSA at that time. Maybe I just don't remember much about it. I do remember they called it  Vancomycin-resistant illnesses at that time.
 And the Vancomycin resistant patients had to be in isolation were we had to put gowns, gloves and masks on over our clothing just  to go into the room so there is not  anything getting on us that we could sprerad to others. We had to scrub our hands and arms like crazy after taking off the outer layer of clothing ( the gowns, masks, ect).

I'm sure like others who have worked in the medial field I could tell horror stories of the awful stuff it does to ones body and how stomach churning it is to see chunks of flesh eaten away by something invisible.

I wonder why it is spreading so much and so well outside of the hospital setting now a days? [color]

I wish the hospital would be more forthcoming in saying MRSA outright, but they probably don't want to scare patients away.  Even if it means compromising the education and health of it's first responders... Angry.  They never told them what to do, just to be careful.  The local volunteer EMT's were the ones who said that a superdisinfectant needed to be used on self and clothing.

I agree!

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