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  Re: MRSA: Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus USA 300
« Reply #60 on: April 09, 2008, 03:36:27 PM » by BJ_BOBBI_JO

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Just wanted to chime in here.  We have been dealing with MRSA for over 10 months now as a family.  First my ds (4), then 1month later my ds (12), and then my dd (2).  If I had not asked if it was MRSA I would not have been told!  While dealing with it for the first two children I did not take precautions as well as I would have had I known how contagious it was.  So when my little one got it the MRSA had gotten so deep that she had to have it surgically removed.  12 inches of gauze had to be taken out of her bottom and then repacked everyday!  Nurses had to come to the house for two weeks after a 5 day hospital stay.  It was so traumatic--she had nightmares up until just a month ago.  All this to say be careful--take precautions and if you end up with a staph infection--PRAY!  God is so faithful and good!  My dd is just now getting over a boil after not having one for 5 months.  I believe it's in her body and this could be something she may have to battle for a while if not all her life.  It's scary stuff but I'm learning more and more that I have to trust in the Lord and lean not on my own understanding!   Those of you have been in correspondence with me during all of this--thank you--your support and encouragement has meant  a lot. 

I most certainly will remember to pray for your situation.  I feel for you and your kids.
It upsets me that you were not told how spreadable it can be. 
Wish I could help you but all I can do is pray for you all. And that I will do. I will pray.
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  Re: MRSA: Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus USA 300
« Reply #61 on: April 09, 2008, 04:15:17 PM » by mykidsmom
My son has been dealing with staph for a year and a half now. He was hospitalized last August (06) with a staph infection in his lymph node. (You can see pics of him on my blog.  http://wtsnworld.blogspot.com/

Anyway..it didn't respond to regular antibiotics, and they were concerned about resistant staph, but it turned out not to be. It just needed drained. But he's since dealt with those staph bumps on his little body from time to time. He'd get one on his belly, it would get really, really red, pus filled, and take weeks to heal. I finally took him back in last month and he said to just put mupirocin on it (bactroban) and swab his nose with it for three days, twice a day. If he keeps getting them then I have to bring him back in to swab his nose for a culture. He thinks staph is colonized in his nose, and he wants to check for the resistant staph again. Anyway...finally, my question is.. Is there something else I could try on his staph bump on his belly to help it go away? It's not pus filled anymore..but still very red. Just kinda stays the same. This is the third one like this..takes weeks to "heal"..and then gradually fades away. He's had them on his face too, but they clear up more quickly.
I haven't been too concerned about it though over the past few months..and none of my other children have had a staph problem. (and I can tell you with five little boys, they've shared baths, toys, towels, etc etc,etc)
Thanks!

~andrea

Andrea, I'm curious.  These little bumps that pop up from time to time - how big do they get?  Over a year ago my son was dx with muscullosum but the bumps he still has don't look the same as a year ago and now I wonder if it's some sort of staph?Huh  He is very immune compromised and we're struggling to get him healthy. 

thanks,

patti
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  Re: MRSA: Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus USA 300
« Reply #62 on: April 09, 2008, 09:00:30 PM » by jhandrh

  It used to be something we saw in patients in nursing homes or those in weakened conditions who had been in the hospital a lot.  No more--now it's throughout the general public.

That is what I have been thinking also. I have not been out in the workforce in about 9 years but when I did work in the medical field I remember having had taken care of several patients with flesh eating illnesses. I don't remember them being called MRSA at that time. Maybe I just don't remember much about it. I do remember they called it  Vancomycin-resistant illnesses at that time.
 And the Vancomycin resistant patients had to be in isolation were we had to put gowns, gloves and masks on over our clothing just  to go into the room so there is not  anything getting on us that we could sprerad to others. We had to scrub our hands and arms like crazy after taking off the outer layer of clothing ( the gowns, masks, ect).

I'm sure like others who have worked in the medial field I could tell horror stories of the awful stuff it does to ones body and how stomach churning it is to see chunks of flesh eaten away by something invisible.

I wonder why it is spreading so much and so well outside of the hospital setting now a days? [color]



Actually, with the vancomycin resistant bug you are now are talking about two separate superbugs here.  MRSA stands for Methicillin Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus, VRE stands for Vanocomycin Resistant Enterococci.  Here is a link to VRE info on the CDC website.
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol4no2/huycke.htm

As far as it spreading outside of the hospital setting--I think that the mainstream medical community (despite its shortcomings in other areas) has hit the nail on the head with its claim that too many antibiotics are causing the superbugs and also causing them to spread.  And in spite of my saying in my earlier post "always wash/disinfect your hands well," (the infection control officer speaking there) I wonder if our super clean ways of life have also bred the superbugs...how many places do you see antibacterial soaps for general use; cleaning products are now more powerful than ever before (I think my mom used pinesol and Murphy's Oil Soap--I have the options of 10 different clorox scents and 8 different Lysol scents, all of which kill 99.99% of bacteria on contact or something like that. Roll Eyes  I use mostly vinegar and and baking soda, a little pine cleaner or bleach for floors or toilets.) 
My family has so far escaped these superbugs but from my jobs before being a SAHM I can also testify to seeing the results of these flesh eating bugs on patients.  Nasty nasty stuff.  My heart goes out to those of you dealing with it and how I wish someone could find a good answer for fighting these!  But bigger meaner antibiotics just eventually breed bigger meaner superbugs, IMVHO.  But yet you can't just let something like MRSA run wild without fighting it somehow,and the generally accepted treatment for such is still some type of antibiotic therapy.  It's a catch 22 for sure. 
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  Re: MRSA: Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus USA 300
« Reply #63 on: April 09, 2008, 09:41:42 PM » by lovetoreadmom
I have not had to deal w/ this, so I can't speak from personal experience on it as so many here have done.  However, I'm wondering if radical forms of "natural" cures have been explored and tried.  Knowing that bacteria are living organisms, they will adapt to their surroundings to survive.  Life will find a way, even the bad kinds of life.  If man-made anti-biotics will not be able to fight this (as now one like penicillin is 95% ineffective for what it was first intended to help), then what about the things God created to fight these awful things?

Have you all read Herbal Anti-biotics by Stephen Harrod Buhner?There is a section in there about Staph and though small, I just wonder how much it would help.  Also, chapter 2 of the book, "Botanical Medicines With the Strongest Antibiotic Properties," would probably give insight on what to do.  Page 64 gives a chart about what treatments to use for certain ones of these resistent microbes (Staph included).  Has any of this been tried?  Woud there be a naturopath in your area who could help w/ this?

It used to be a century or so ago, that people did not understand so much about germs, and I think our society has done what so often happens and that is to swing the pendulum so far in the other direction that the same result has occurred . . . people still dying from dirty germs.
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  Re: MRSA: Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus USA 300
« Reply #64 on: April 09, 2008, 10:40:36 PM » by Mrs. B

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I have not had to deal w/ this, so I can't speak from personal experience on it as so many here have done.  However, I'm wondering if radical forms of "natural" cures have been explored and tried.  Knowing that bacteria are living organisms, they will adapt to their surroundings to survive.  Life will find a way, even the bad kinds of life.  If man-made anti-biotics will not be able to fight this (as now one like penicillin is 95% ineffective for what it was first intended to help), then what about the things God created to fight these awful things?

Have you all read Herbal Anti-biotics by Stephen Harrod Buhner?There is a section in there about Staph and though small, I just wonder how much it would help.  Also, chapter 2 of the book, "Botanical Medicines With the Strongest Antibiotic Properties," would probably give insight on what to do.  Page 64 gives a chart about what treatments to use for certain ones of these resistent microbes (Staph included).  Has any of this been tried?  Woud there be a naturopath in your area who could help w/ this?

It used to be a century or so ago, that people did not understand so much about germs, and I think our society has done what so often happens and that is to swing the pendulum so far in the other direction that the same result has occurred . . . people still dying from dirty germs.
I'm not personally involved with any studies along these lines at this time, but there are many medical schools and programs out there that do explore natural avenues for treatment.  Some hospitals are more open to this than others also.
I also feel that while many people would be interested, that unless it IMO makes a profit for the pharmaceuticals it will be difficult to push no matter how effective.  There is also the matter of "coding" for medicare and insurance... if it can't be coded it doesn't get paid for.
I also feel that while there is an interest in this, most people out there simply don't care.  They want a pill to make everything better without accountability for their health in general.
I also just want to say that I have worked with MRSA, VRE, acetobacter, flesh-eating disease, etc for over 20 years now(I'm an ICU RN), and have not come down with any of it.  I've been pregnant and worked until I was 9 months along with both of my kids. 
I generally don't get sick, nor do my kids... Hopefully and prayerfully this will not change.
We do try to choose to stay healthy.  We aren't particularly, strictly clean, and they do have access to me in my "work" clothes and always have.  I know many people who change in their garage and won't enter the house in their work clothes (and if I were an EMT I probably would take this stance), but I treat my scrubs like any other clothes.

I thought that Herbal Antibiotics was a great book, and one I definitely want to add to my library. 
I was speaking with Infection control just yesterday and apparently the CDC is actively requiring hospitals to really make sure they are ready for pan-demic.  I was told "it isn't a matter of IF it happens, but when". 
I was even a bit taken aback by this statement.  BUT I refuse to live a life of fear.  We eat well and are stocked to continue eating healthy.  We have access in our home to herbs and homemade meds.  If and when the something (CDC is thinking a mutation of the bird flu) does happen, I feel that I am ready....

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  Re: MRSA: Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus USA 300
« Reply #65 on: April 09, 2008, 10:55:34 PM » by BJ_BOBBI_JO

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So then is MRSA  the same thing as or like what used to be called strep A? The skin eating sickness?

I remember taking care of a man who got that after he had strep throat and the sickness some how mutated in him and began eating his skin off and then the flesh beneath the skin.

If it is differant and we now have VRE and MRSA  and strep A ( if it is differant then MRSA)  then that floors me. Considering how many flesh eating illnesses there are including Eboli and others then Im suprised there are not more ppl who get them.

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« Reply #66 on: April 09, 2008, 11:13:34 PM » by Mrs. B

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So then is MRSA  the same thing as or like what used to be called strep A? The skin eating sickness?

I remember taking care of a man who got that after he had strep throat and the sickness some how mutated in him and began eating his skin off and then the flesh beneath the skin.

If it is differant and we now have VRE and MRSA  and strep A ( if it is differant then MRSA)  then that floors me. Considering how many flesh eating illnesses there are including Eboli and others then Im suprised there are not more ppl who get them.

MRSA is staph and the strep A is strep.  Flesh eating disease, or necrotizing fasciitis can be caused from strep A in addition to other bacteria.
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  Re: MRSA: Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus USA 300
« Reply #67 on: April 10, 2008, 08:25:34 AM » by lovetoreadmom
I also feel that while there is an interest in this, most people out there simply don't care.  They want a pill to make everything better without accountability for their health in general.

WOW! It's good to know there's someone else out there who has had the same thought I've had . . . almost the exact words.  Also, I think this line of thinking falls under the category of knowing the difference b/t health care and medical care.  To me, medical care is going to the doctor/hospital for things that are out of our control.  Health care is what we do to take care of ourselves to stay as fit and healthy as we can.  In today's society where people want to have no responsibility, these two areas are merged.

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  Re: MRSA: Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus USA 300
« Reply #68 on: April 13, 2008, 06:54:09 PM » by MommabyHisgrace
After reading some of the posts and other threads on this subject, I have decided to work on a new plan of treatment.  If anyone has any thoughts I would appreciate any input.  We have 8 in our family.  Currently 1 has 3 bumps with little heads on them, 4 have bumps without heads and seem to be going away with tea tree oil, and the other 3 have no symptoms.  My thought is to treat the whole family--GSE orally 3 times a day, Colloidal Silver orally 2 times a day, swab noses with colloidal silver 2 times a day, wipe down all bumps with GSE, then tea tree oil and bandaid with colloidal silver.  I'm also giving liquid chlorophyll, zinc, MSM, Berry Well and raw honey.  Laundry is being done with vinegar, GSE, and baking soda in very hot water.  Surfaces are being sprayed at least 2 times a day with all purpose cleaner with added GSE, lavender oil and tea tree oil.  I just got in some TTU (should I wait until we are done with the GSE and colloidal silver to give this or do it along with it?)  Like I said I would appreciate any advice.  I just feel like "it's not normal to get little bumps" and I'm tired of it!  I know that God is in control--I do want to do what I can to eliminate this from our family as best I can.  Thanks for your help! 
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  Re: MRSA: Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus USA 300
« Reply #69 on: April 16, 2008, 09:14:17 AM » by Kati*did
I received this today from a health subscription I get and thought that it would be good to post.

http://www.naturalnews.com/023022.html

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Researchers have discovered that a clay made from volcanic ash in France has powerful antibiotic properties and is capable of killing even antibiotic-resistant superbugs such as methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA).

"It's fascinating," said researcher Shelley Haydel, a microbiologist at Arizona State University. "Here we are bridging geology, microbiology, cell biology. A year ago, I'd look at the clay and say, 'Well, that's dirt.'"

MRSA is an antibiotic-resistant variety of the common bacteria that causes staph infections. This makes it more likely to develop potentially fatal complications, as it can proceed untreated for longer and spreads rapidly in institutional settings such as hospitals, prisons and schools.

Researchers added the volcanic clay, called agricur, to cell colonies of MRSA, and found that 99 percent of colonies were eliminated within 24 hours. In the same time period, colonies not treated with the clay grew by 45 percent. The clay exhibited similar antibiotic effects against salmonella, E. coli and buruli.

Buruli is a flesh-eating relative of leprosy that causes disfigurement of children. Due to its prevalence in Africa, the World Health Organization has classified it as "an emerging public health threat."

The researchers do not yet know what about the clay is responsible for its antibiotic properties. While clay has a history as a folk remedy for nausea and a spa treatment, the former use has not been seriously studied and the latter is due to clay's ability to hold heat and draw out toxins.

"We have multiple working hypotheses," to explain the properties of antibacterial clay, researcher Lynda Williams said. "Our primary hypothesis is that the clay minerals transfer elements, not yet identified, to the bacteria that impede their metabolic function. It is entirely possible that it is not one single element that is toxic to the bacteria, but a combination of elements and chemical conditions that attack the bacteria from different angles so as to overwhelm their defense systems."

While unlikely, it is also possible that the clay kills bacteria through physical rather than chemical processes, which would make it incredibly difficult for the bacteria to develop resistance to it.
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  Re: MRSA: Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus USA 300
« Reply #70 on: April 16, 2008, 11:18:15 AM » by Denaye
I recently received an email from other essential oil (YL) users which listed the oils that can be used to treat MRSA.  Many of them are such powerful antibacterials.  In short, a few that had been used successfully are RC, Thieves, Purification (Young Living brand blends) ... I hope this helps someone.
Thanks,
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  Re: MRSA: Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus USA 300
« Reply #71 on: May 27, 2008, 04:22:42 PM » by savedbygrace
I received this today from a health subscription I get and thought that it would be good to post.

http://www.naturalnews.com/023022.html

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Researchers have discovered that a clay made from volcanic ash in France has powerful antibiotic properties and is capable of killing even antibiotic-resistant superbugs such as methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA).

"It's fascinating," said researcher Shelley Haydel, a microbiologist at Arizona State University. "Here we are bridging geology, microbiology, cell biology. A year ago, I'd look at the clay and say, 'Well, that's dirt.'"

MRSA is an antibiotic-resistant variety of the common bacteria that causes staph infections. This makes it more likely to develop potentially fatal complications, as it can proceed untreated for longer and spreads rapidly in institutional settings such as hospitals, prisons and schools.

Researchers added the volcanic clay, called agricur, to cell colonies of MRSA, and found that 99 percent of colonies were eliminated within 24 hours. In the same time period, colonies not treated with the clay grew by 45 percent. The clay exhibited similar antibiotic effects against salmonella, E. coli and buruli.

Buruli is a flesh-eating relative of leprosy that causes disfigurement of children. Due to its prevalence in Africa, the World Health Organization has classified it as "an emerging public health threat."

The researchers do not yet know what about the clay is responsible for its antibiotic properties. While clay has a history as a folk remedy for nausea and a spa treatment, the former use has not been seriously studied and the latter is due to clay's ability to hold heat and draw out toxins.

"We have multiple working hypotheses," to explain the properties of antibacterial clay, researcher Lynda Williams said. "Our primary hypothesis is that the clay minerals transfer elements, not yet identified, to the bacteria that impede their metabolic function. It is entirely possible that it is not one single element that is toxic to the bacteria, but a combination of elements and chemical conditions that attack the bacteria from different angles so as to overwhelm their defense systems."

While unlikely, it is also possible that the clay kills bacteria through physical rather than chemical processes, which would make it incredibly difficult for the bacteria to develop resistance to it.

Where would I find this clay?
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  Re: MRSA: Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus USA 300
« Reply #72 on: May 27, 2008, 04:33:04 PM » by miff aka Missi
I received this today from a health subscription I get and thought that it would be good to post.

http://www.naturalnews.com/023022.html

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Researchers have discovered that a clay made from volcanic ash in France has powerful antibiotic properties and is capable of killing even antibiotic-resistant superbugs such as methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA).

"It's fascinating," said researcher Shelley Haydel, a microbiologist at Arizona State University. "Here we are bridging geology, microbiology, cell biology. A year ago, I'd look at the clay and say, 'Well, that's dirt.'"

MRSA is an antibiotic-resistant variety of the common bacteria that causes staph infections. This makes it more likely to develop potentially fatal complications, as it can proceed untreated for longer and spreads rapidly in institutional settings such as hospitals, prisons and schools.

Researchers added the volcanic clay, called agricur, to cell colonies of MRSA, and found that 99 percent of colonies were eliminated within 24 hours. In the same time period, colonies not treated with the clay grew by 45 percent. The clay exhibited similar antibiotic effects against salmonella, E. coli and buruli.

Buruli is a flesh-eating relative of leprosy that causes disfigurement of children. Due to its prevalence in Africa, the World Health Organization has classified it as "an emerging public health threat."

The researchers do not yet know what about the clay is responsible for its antibiotic properties. While clay has a history as a folk remedy for nausea and a spa treatment, the former use has not been seriously studied and the latter is due to clay's ability to hold heat and draw out toxins.

"We have multiple working hypotheses," to explain the properties of antibacterial clay, researcher Lynda Williams said. "Our primary hypothesis is that the clay minerals transfer elements, not yet identified, to the bacteria that impede their metabolic function. It is entirely possible that it is not one single element that is toxic to the bacteria, but a combination of elements and chemical conditions that attack the bacteria from different angles so as to overwhelm their defense systems."

While unlikely, it is also possible that the clay kills bacteria through physical rather than chemical processes, which would make it incredibly difficult for the bacteria to develop resistance to it.

Where would I find this clay?
Here's one source.

http://www.bulkherbstore.com/BCP

Some other herb stores probably carry it too.

Missi
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« Reply #73 on: May 27, 2008, 04:37:27 PM » by savedbygrace
are you sure this is the same clay?

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MRSA is an antibiotic-resistant variety of the common bacteria that causes staph infections. This makes it more likely to develop potentially fatal complications, as it can proceed untreated for longer and spreads rapidly in institutional settings such as hospitals, prisons and schools.

Researchers added the volcanic clay, called agricur, to cell colonies of MRSA, and found that 99 percent of colonies were eliminated within 24 hours. In the same time period, colonies not treated with the clay grew by 45 percent. The clay exhibited similar antibiotic effects against salmonella, E. coli and buruli.


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« Reply #74 on: May 27, 2008, 04:43:51 PM » by miff aka Missi
are you sure this is the same clay?

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MRSA is an antibiotic-resistant variety of the common bacteria that causes staph infections. This makes it more likely to develop potentially fatal complications, as it can proceed untreated for longer and spreads rapidly in institutional settings such as hospitals, prisons and schools.

Researchers added the volcanic clay, called agricur, to cell colonies of MRSA, and found that 99 percent of colonies were eliminated within 24 hours. In the same time period, colonies not treated with the clay grew by 45 percent. The clay exhibited similar antibiotic effects against salmonella, E. coli and buruli.

Quote-After two years of research, the ASU team found that of 30 types of clay tested, three displayed a surprisingly strong effect against such deadly bacteria as E. coli, Salmonella, and even the anti-biotic resistant superbug MRSA. The clay killed all or most of these strains and others in vitro. Special emphasis was put on the volcanic soil known as bentonite clay.

From here:

http://www.naturalnews.com/023217.html

Sorry about not clarifying.  I have a tendency to do that.  Sometimes ya gotta smack me.  Cheesy Grin

Missi

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« Reply #75 on: May 27, 2008, 04:53:21 PM » by savedbygrace
Thanks! Just wanted to be sure I had the right stuff. Has anyone tried this for staph?

are you sure this is the same clay?

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MRSA is an antibiotic-resistant variety of the common bacteria that causes staph infections. This makes it more likely to develop potentially fatal complications, as it can proceed untreated for longer and spreads rapidly in institutional settings such as hospitals, prisons and schools.

Researchers added the volcanic clay, called agricur, to cell colonies of MRSA, and found that 99 percent of colonies were eliminated within 24 hours. In the same time period, colonies not treated with the clay grew by 45 percent. The clay exhibited similar antibiotic effects against salmonella, E. coli and buruli.

Quote-After two years of research, the ASU team found that of 30 types of clay tested, three displayed a surprisingly strong effect against such deadly bacteria as E. coli, Salmonella, and even the anti-biotic resistant superbug MRSA. The clay killed all or most of these strains and others in vitro. Special emphasis was put on the volcanic soil known as bentonite clay.

From here:

http://www.naturalnews.com/023217.html

Sorry about not clarifying.  I have a tendency to do that.  Sometimes ya gotta smack me.  Cheesy Grin

Missi
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  Re: MRSA: Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus USA 300
« Reply #76 on: June 08, 2008, 08:18:56 PM » by daisey
Do you think if a person could rig up an oxygen bath for the affected area that would help along with some of these other suggestions?  Example.........if you had an infected hand and you could soak your hand in water that had oxygen bubbling in it would that help?

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« Reply #77 on: June 08, 2008, 08:37:38 PM » by Mrs. B

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Do you think if a person could rig up an oxygen bath for the affected area that would help along with some of these other suggestions?  Example.........if you had an infected hand and you could soak your hand in water that had oxygen bubbling in it would that help?
I wasn't the best at microbiology, but I believe that MRSA is an aerobic organism that requires oxygen for its metabolic function...
This being said, I did just do a quick search and there does appear to be some research supporting the use of hyperbarics for the treatment of MRSA.  The reseach I found states that they used 100% oxygen for 90 minutes  under pressure there was an improvement that was not seen otherwise. 
I don't know that I would worry with using this for treatment of mrsa.
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« Reply #78 on: June 09, 2008, 07:17:09 PM » by daisey
Do you think if a person could rig up an oxygen bath for the affected area that would help along with some of these other suggestions?  Example.........if you had an infected hand and you could soak your hand in water that had oxygen bubbling in it would that help?
I wasn't the best at microbiology, but I believe that MRSA is an aerobic organism that requires oxygen for its metabolic function...
This being said, I did just do a quick search and there does appear to be some research supporting the use of hyperbarics for the treatment of MRSA.  The reseach I found states that they used 100% oxygen for 90 minutes  under pressure there was an improvement that was not seen otherwise. 
I don't know that I would worry with using this for treatment of mrsa.
Could you tell me where you looked for this information?   I must not be typing the right stuff into Google because I'm not getting much that is helpful.   Thanks
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« Reply #79 on: June 09, 2008, 07:24:40 PM » by Mrs. B

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Do you think if a person could rig up an oxygen bath for the affected area that would help along with some of these other suggestions?  Example.........if you had an infected hand and you could soak your hand in water that had oxygen bubbling in it would that help?
I wasn't the best at microbiology, but I believe that MRSA is an aerobic organism that requires oxygen for its metabolic function...
This being said, I did just do a quick search and there does appear to be some research supporting the use of hyperbarics for the treatment of MRSA.  The reseach I found states that they used 100% oxygen for 90 minutes  under pressure there was an improvement that was not seen otherwise. 
I don't know that I would worry with using this for treatment of mrsa.
Could you tell me where you looked for this information?   I must not be typing the right stuff into Google because I'm not getting much that is helpful.   Thanks
I just did a search on google for mrsa and hyperbarics...
one study I found is at    http://www.springerlink.com/content/g45754epuxamrt39/ but it is an abstract, and not the complete study.  If you are looking for other medical studies I also add the word "abstract" into my search so that I get studies specifically, or at least their abstracts.
I already knew that organisms are either anaerobic or aerobic, but you could also google aerobic orbanism or aerobic mrsa and see what you get...
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« Reply #80 on: June 09, 2008, 07:34:44 PM » by daisey
Do you think if a person could rig up an oxygen bath for the affected area that would help along with some of these other suggestions?  Example.........if you had an infected hand and you could soak your hand in water that had oxygen bubbling in it would that help?
I wasn't the best at microbiology, but I believe that MRSA is an aerobic organism that requires oxygen for its metabolic function...
This being said, I did just do a quick search and there does appear to be some research supporting the use of hyperbarics for the treatment of MRSA.  The reseach I found states that they used 100% oxygen for 90 minutes  under pressure there was an improvement that was not seen otherwise. 
I don't know that I would worry with using this for treatment of mrsa.
Could you tell me where you looked for this information?   I must not be typing the right stuff into Google because I'm not getting much that is helpful.   Thanks
I just did a search on google for mrsa and hyperbarics...
one study I found is at    http://www.springerlink.com/content/g45754epuxamrt39/ but it is an abstract, and not the complete study.  If you are looking for other medical studies I also add the word "abstract" into my search so that I get studies specifically, or at least their abstracts.
I already knew that organisms are either anaerobic or aerobic, but you could also google aerobic orbanism or aerobic mrsa and see what you get...


Thanks Mrs. B.  I will try that.   
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« Reply #81 on: June 12, 2008, 08:46:56 PM » by KristenA

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,365884,00.html

this story should also go in the "Natural Health in the News" thread, but I can't find it.
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« Reply #82 on: June 30, 2008, 09:14:09 AM » by mammamaude
While on the computer yesterday, I came across a picture of staph infection.  The picture looked so familiar to me.  After searching for some more pictures and studying the symptoms, I am pretty sure that is what I have.  I have been dealing with it since about a week after coming home from the hospital (about 3 months).  When I looked it up online at Web MD, it said that it is common in breastfeeding mothers, but didn't say why.  (Does anybody know?) It also went on to say that the staph infection could easily be passed from mother to infant if breastfeeding.  My boys are fine and seem to have no sign of infection, however, I don't want to do anything to them that is potentially harmful to them.
My mother is coming today and is taking me to the doctor.  Are there certain medicines to avoid?  Does anyone have any suggestions of the questions I should ask?
Also, I've read on here that garlic is effective...what kind is most effective in clearing this up?   
I am pretty much clueless about this except for what I have read on the web, which is pretty scary as well as overwhelming, so any advice, help, suggestions would be very much appreciated.  Thank you so much.
-Sarah
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« Reply #83 on: June 30, 2008, 11:12:19 AM » by refreshed
I just have a quick question about MRSA.  I recently found out that an elderly man in our church has been diagnosed with this and I am wondering how likely it is that it will spread to others in our church.  He only comes on Sunday morning and generally stays in the back, but he does use the restroom, as does his wife.  We have a LOT of children in our church (including my 4, one of which is an infant).  The families with children are at the church a lot and our pastor and his family live in our church building.  The bathrooms are cleaned regularly, but kids are not always very careful about washing and things like that.  So my concern is for all the children and for our pastor's family.  Have any studies been done on how contagious it is?  Does anyone have any information on how long the bacteria lives on a surface?  Also, if it is resistant to antibiotics, would it be resistant to sanitizing surfaces with Lysol (or using hand sanitizer)?  Anyone have any info? 

Also, is this related to leprosy or is it just a different type of flesh-eating disease?

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« Reply #84 on: June 30, 2008, 11:28:47 AM » by prairiechild
refreshed,

this should answer your questions... http://www.ochealthinfo.com/epi/mrsa/providers.htm

No, mrsa is unrelated to leprosy. It is not resistant to hand-sanitizer or bleach.
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« Reply #85 on: June 30, 2008, 01:03:50 PM » by refreshed
Thanks prairiechild!
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« Reply #86 on: June 30, 2008, 06:03:24 PM » by havasmama_05
While on the computer yesterday, I came across a picture of staph infection.  The picture looked so familiar to me.  After searching for some more pictures and studying the symptoms, I am pretty sure that is what I have.  I have been dealing with it since about a week after coming home from the hospital (about 3 months).  When I looked it up online at Web MD, it said that it is common in breastfeeding mothers, but didn't say why.  (Does anybody know?) It also went on to say that the staph infection could easily be passed from mother to infant if breastfeeding.  My boys are fine and seem to have no sign of infection, however, I don't want to do anything to them that is potentially harmful to them.
My mother is coming today and is taking me to the doctor.  Are there certain medicines to avoid?  Does anyone have any suggestions of the questions I should ask?
Also, I've read on here that garlic is effective...what kind is most effective in clearing this up?   
I am pretty much clueless about this except for what I have read on the web, which is pretty scary as well as overwhelming, so any advice, help, suggestions would be very much appreciated.  Thank you so much.
-Sarah

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« Reply #87 on: August 10, 2008, 01:58:02 AM » by miraclays
This company has this clay. It is one of the clays being used at ASU the web site is www.miraclays.com  I have seen one mrsa surgical wound that was help by this clay. It works on all bacteria mrsa or not. If a person truly has MRSA these people will prove that this is the real healing clay. I hope someone that needs this info gets it Thanks
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« Reply #88 on: August 16, 2008, 03:49:40 PM » by miamama
A question about using natural stuff and antibiotics simultaneously........
A relative of a friend of mine has been fighting staph infection for a while, and still has boils all over so bad he can hardly walk.  He is on antibiotics from 3 different docs.  No one has said MRSA, but he obvioulsy has a pretty bad case of staph.
So, does anyone think it would be helpful to recommend trying some things like tea tree oil, garlic (internal and external), and probiotics?Huh (or anything else)
Or would all of that just be overrun by all of the antibiotics he's taking???
Any ideas/opinions would be greatly appreciated. Smiley
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« Reply #89 on: August 17, 2008, 09:42:38 PM » by MommabyHisgrace
A question about using natural stuff and antibiotics simultaneously........
A relative of a friend of mine has been fighting staph infection for a while, and still has boils all over so bad he can hardly walk.  He is on antibiotics from 3 different docs.  No one has said MRSA, but he obvioulsy has a pretty bad case of staph.
So, does anyone think it would be helpful to recommend trying some things like tea tree oil, garlic (internal and external), and probiotics?Huh (or anything else)
Or would all of that just be overrun by all of the antibiotics he's taking???
Any ideas/opinions would be greatly appreciated. Smiley
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Our family has been dealing with MRSA for over a year now and first and foremost I want to say that I will be praying for this person.  I don't know much more than I did a year ago, but I definitely think boosting his immune system would help.  If he's on all of these antibiotics he needs it because they are killing ALL his bacteria--good and bad.  Tea tree oil, probiotics, and garlic would help.  We also are taking Vit. C (1,000mg-1500mg)per day and just doing all that we can to boost our immune system.  So sorry to hear of his suffering.  Praying that God will heal him!
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