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First pill meant to end periods [menstrual cycles] poised for OK
« on: May 19, 2007, 07:46:46 AM » by queentea

Can you believe that people are buying into this? What amazed me is all the talk about the negative side of having your period, and nothing about the purpose it actually serves. Oh, and NO mention of the side effects of taking this drug!!!

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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2007, 07:51:52 AM » by KristenA

This is sick.
There was one "draw-back"....

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About 1 percent of oral contraceptive users become pregnant each year, and young women taking continuous pills who have never been pregnant may not recognize the symptoms, she said.

“They may not know it in time to do something about it,” Wiser-Estin said.

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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2007, 08:20:53 AM » by queentea

Quote from: KristenA on May 19, 2007, 07:51:52 AM

This is sick.
There was one "draw-back"....

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I wonder what "do something about it" means?

It seems to me to be a convenience thing with absolutely NO medical benefit!! Can they make a pill so I don't have to bathe?? What's next?...I know, a pill that makes my house clean so I don't have to do it Cheesy

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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2007, 08:28:20 AM » by herbs girl

Oh please!

This is not good. Its not healthy to not have bleeding every month unless you have one of 3 things...pregnant, breastfeeding, or menopause. It actually ups your risk of cancer if you dont have your period for no reason. I was desperatley wanting my period back not too long ago after over 4 months with out it and I didnt know the reason why. I mean why would someone want to mess up their bodies like that? I wonder if alot of women are being decieved because they really dont realize what it could do to them.

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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2007, 08:28:42 AM » by KristenA

Quote from: queentea on May 19, 2007, 08:20:53 AM

I wonder what "do something about it" means?

I assumed it to mean Abortion.

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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2007, 09:30:17 AM » by Mrs. B

I'm a nurse and about 15 years ago I was orienting to work at a large urban hospital.
During the initial nursing orientation they had the nurse over ob/gyn speak to us. The only thing that I remember her saying was that you could further control your body by taking the pill continuously and that you never had to have a period again ever--that she did this and it was wonderful. This was a woman in charge of education of the nurses and the public.
She also discussed how unnecessary periods were for the body and that you needed to take control.
I remember that as a young woman this did seem somewhat tempting, but so very unnatural. There is such a perversion of the natural flow of our bodies by what is considered modern medicine.
I think that this fits in so well with the model that our society has been led to believe. I find it so scary to deal with people at my job (I'm and ICU RN) because they have put a belief in medicine that should not be there. I think that this goes much further than political or social--there is a definite plan among these people--humanists--to gain control over every aspect of people's lives, and so many people (willingly) buy into it.
I'm sorry if this sounds paranoid, because I don't really feel that I am. I am only making observations as I see them.

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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2007, 11:11:58 AM » by queentea

Quote from: Mrs. B on May 19, 2007, 09:30:17 AM

you don't sound paranoid to me, just wise. We have become so gullable. I don't understand why people don't question things....just seem to line up and take the latest pill.

I had to take my ds to the dr a few weeks ago for something that wouldn't go away (fever). Dr. said it was an ear infection (he wasn't complaining of pain though) and perscribed antibiotics. I didn't fill the perscription but instead did peroxide and garlic oil in his ear twice a day for a few days, and he got better. That's not to say I wouldn't have used the perscription if I felt he wasn't getting better, but I don't just blindly give my kids things anymore!

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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2007, 11:18:51 AM » by herbs girl

Quote from: queentea on May 19, 2007, 11:11:58 AM

Quote from: Mrs. B on May 19, 2007, 09:30:17 AM

That is right!! One of you said "they have put a belief in medicine that should not be there" So very true! If a medical doctor or the FDA says its ok, then alot of poeple are gullible and say its fine. Well not necesssarily! We need to make ***Informed Choices*** about our health and everything that we take!!

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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2007, 12:57:40 PM » by joshs_rebekah

So...if you want control, and don't want to have your period anymore...why not just have an unnecessary hysterectomy?!?!?!? Angry

Sorry, a little anger is rising in me over women who feel they know better than God about what we do and don't need!

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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2007, 01:51:25 PM » by railroaderswife

I had a nurse from church tell me that stoping my period would be good for me. I didn't quite believe her, but being very young I didn't question her either.
I get "spread the word" e-mails all the time. Some good, some bad. Maybe we should start one with this info on it. Does anyone know how to word things like this? (I don't!)

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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2007, 02:13:53 PM » by queentea

Quote from: railroaderswife on May 19, 2007, 01:51:25 PM

I had a DR. FROM CHURCH, tell me that I should put my then 12 yodd on birth control because her periods were so irregular. She would have her period every 2-3 weeks then go two months without one. I didn't listen as I thought that was a very drastic measure for a 12 yo girl! I was just beginning my learning in the natural health areas and made a point NEVER ask that Dr. a question again!! It seems the medical world (mainstream) is all about treating the symptoms and not the cause. I just wanted to know if there was something physically wrong, not try to make things more convenient!

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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2007, 08:24:32 PM » by healthyinOhio

WOW! Women can actually be men, now. Gross! Tongue

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« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2007, 09:24:21 PM » by heatheronthehill

A very close friend of mine took "the pill" continuously for a few months when she first got married just for "convenience sake" she said. It messed up her cycles and her hormones TERRIBLY! She had all kinds of emotional problems just due to her body being thrown completely off track. It took her almost a year just to get back to normal! I wouldn't recommend this!

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« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2007, 07:31:13 AM » by Kymdenise

I went to my doctor a little over a month ago.. she has been really great about discussing options when it comes to everything, birth control, whatever.. I wasn't sure I was ready to get pregnant again, and so in discussing birth control options she said she could give me a stronger dose bcpill, which although I'd have a higher risk of blood clots, I would have a lower risk of pregnancy...or a low dose, higher risk of pregnancy, lower risk of bloot clots.. I was a bit off the cuff when I laughed "Well I'd rather have a baby than a blood clot!", and then was shocked and a bit horrified when her and the nurse BOTH said, "Huh, I don't think I could say the same"... (cue crickets chirping)..

I opted for low dose (which when I looked into it, it workes by preventing ovulation, not implantation). I've taken it for a month, just got my first period in almost 2 years..hello old friend. And now I'm going off so I can chart my own cycles to...ahem... try for a boy... I'm SOO EXCITED!

I realize this was a ramble, but now I'm really giddy about another baby!

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« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2007, 08:10:49 AM » by his.silly.wife

I had a friend that was on a BC that she had her period about 4 times a year. At one point, she was terrified that she had cancer, as she had been feeling ill and had a growth in her stomach. Nope, she was three months pregnant. Ooops...

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« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2007, 11:35:39 AM » by shesaidthis

I thought you ladies might find this funny. I was watching the local news a couple nights ago and they did story on this. They brought in an "expert" who said that there was nothing controversial about the no period pill stopping your period indefinitely because when you stayed on the pill it put your uterus into "hibernation" (his word) and it no longer made a lining to slough off for menstruation. No lining = no period = no problem. You are in hibernation. Right after he said that they came on and said that 1 in 5 women would experience break through bleeding. Um...if my uterus is in hibernation and no longer making blood, where is the blood coming from?

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« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2007, 12:26:02 PM » by Shaundra

I know we have been talking about pills, but a friend of mine told me the other day that she is having surgery to stop her periods. She has very long heavy flows and has always been in a lot of pain. They have 7 kids, so I know it has nothing do do with controlling the amt. of kids they have, but I was wondering if ya'll know how safe this is for her body after its been done. Are there any side affects from stopping the flow completely? Thanks!

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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2007, 12:47:23 PM » by KristenA

Quote from: Shaundra on May 25, 2007, 12:26:02 PM

Is she talking about a hysterectamy? Huh

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« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2007, 01:06:25 PM » by BJ_BOBBI_JO

It sure seems like now a days that more and more women are having bad female troubles with their periods and female parts. I believe this to mostly be due to the chemicals( hormones) and other junk in our modern foods that we eat. And unless one has tons of money to buy only organic fresh fruits and veggies they dont have the money to eat healthy. It is like a trap. A trap that leads to many illnesses and poor health in general. Angry

Priods have caused troubles for women forever but look how much worse it is now. And to make it worse much of the medical community does not know or teach about the ill affects of these new processed foods and so on. So as a result more and more women suffer. They suffer so much so that they get sicker and sicker until they about have to do something like taking those period stoping pills and surgeries.

It is like a never ending trap: no money = eating unhealthy foods.
no land = no place to grow healthy foods............................................................................ Embarrassed

Lets hope places like this forums can stick around forever and continue to teach women better diet and lifestyle choices so that they dont get so unhealthy that they have to turn to surgeries and medications as the only means to help them. Wink

Or we could condem and judge those women and act like we are holier then tho. ( I know no one has done that yet but there is always someone who will be)

I think I would rather teach and be an example instead of bashing and condeming them. But hey who am I , what do I know anyways?

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« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2007, 01:36:11 PM » by ShabbyChic

This pill, IMO, is just another step into the agenda of @ndr0geny. CK 0ne colone, metro-s*xu*l men wearing capri pants and man-b0bs, and other pushes toward "ONE." Fertility, carrying children, menses, breasts, all of these things are being attacked. Along with the m0rn!ng @fter pill, it is to promote women's lib*rati0n, hom*s#xuality, be@sti@lity, pr0mis[uity, and other attacks on the family. We studied this in depth at my uber-conservative Christian college sociology class, and the propaganda that we had to read and weigh for our ethics paper was surreal. That was in 2005, and ths pill was predicted.

Yes, it may be presented as relief for women who are hurting, and it may be used for that, but the vast majority of the market will be what the pill has always been: an excuse for promiscuity. Not for everyone, it wasn't for me, but for the majority. And then the same women who want to shut down their reproductive systems for 25 years (age 15-40) will undergo fertility treatments in their 40's to get pregnant. It's another attept for man to play Gd. It's sad. And it's dangerous. And we should say something.

Just my $.02.

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« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2007, 01:39:43 PM » by shesaidthis

Quote from: Shaundra on May 25, 2007, 12:26:02 PM

Are there any side affects from stopping the flow completely?

I have heard mention of words like cancer and the like in connection with stopping the periods. That was what our local news "expert" was assuring us could never happen because we would be in "hibernation". I don't believe the hibernation theory due to the break through bleeding problem, but apparently there is concern about long term health risks in connection with stopping periods. All the studies I have heard so far have been short term. I don't know how this would translate to a hysterectomy or surgery. I also wonder if surgery would fix the hormone issues that caused all the problems in the first place or if it would just treat the symptoms. Unfortunately, I really don't have any answers, just a lot of questions.

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« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2007, 01:48:26 PM » by tonysgirl

Guess what?! I agree that it's not normal for women to go for years and years having periods. Because God made us to be pregnant and nursing. Not for us to take some artificial hormones to make our bodies do this. I recently read the book "Be Fruitful and Multiply" by Nancy Campbell that talked about this some. It was pretty interesting. My good friend took the pill that only made her have a period 4 times a year, and it was really talked up to her how good this is because ladies aren't made to be having their periods all the time, etc. But it really messed her up and she's been off for about a year and still doesn't feel good or get a reg. period and can't get pregnant. The book I referred to gave stats on cancer rates, and it seems that the more women are pregnant or nsg., their rates go way down. (I'm not reccommending having lots of babies just so your risk of cancer is down!)
Also, just to comment on the one pill someone said that worked by inhibiting ovulation only, not preventing implantation, I'd like to know the name of it. I'm a nurse and have researched every pill I know of and they all act the same ways, some to lesser or greater degrees of the different ways. (For example, the higher the progestin in the pill, such as pills (or any other hormone birth control, patch, shot, whatever) for nursing moms, cause ovulation more often, but work harder at not allowing implantation.
I'm thankful for all the research that this site points me to, that helps us to make informed decisions for our family. God bless you all!

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« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2007, 02:39:36 PM » by queentea

Quote from: Shaundra on May 25, 2007, 12:26:02 PM

I'm wondering if she is having her uterus lining "burned" At one of my yearly visits I mentioned having heavy, painful periods and he suggested that I get this proceedure as long as I was done having children (we are). From what little I know about it, they obviously burn the lining which then causes you not to "shed" and have a period. Don't know if it lasts forever (got the impression that it did) But they do not remove the uterus, and I would assume that it would prevent pregnancy since the fertilized egg could not implant if there is no lining. Again I don't know much, I just knew that it was WAY to drastic a measure for me!! It was the last time I went to that Dr. He also was pushing my mom to take hormone replacement, so she stopped going to him too.

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« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2007, 05:05:04 PM » by healthybratt

Quote from: Shaundra on May 25, 2007, 12:26:02 PM

If not a hysterectomy, probably Endometrial Ablation

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« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2007, 05:15:39 PM » by healthybratt

Let's be careful ladies. This is a health related topic with many controversial barbs. Let's try to keep it related to factual information related to health and allow the reader to form their own opinions about the ethics and morality of it.

I personally, have very strong views about many such things, but this is not the appropriate forum to voice them. If you really want to vent about such things, take it to 7xSunday or any other such forum of your choice.

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« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2007, 05:51:02 PM » by Shaundra

I dont know what the actual procedure will be, but I dont think its a histerectamy. (sp?)

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