Herbal Remedies to Boost a Tired Out Adrenal Gland?

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Re: Herbal Remedies to Boost a Tired Out Adrenal Gland?
« Reply #180 on: February 02, 2009, 12:19:14 PM » by mykidsmom

Momofkings,

Isocort will NOT make you addicted. I stopped and started Isocort as I needed it. No trouble. I took it for several years. Isocort helps the adrenal glands put out cortisol so your body functions as close to normal as possible.

Here's how I used Isocort: I used it daily (twice a day. AM and lunch time) while at the same time I was focusing on my diet, herbs, etc. to actually do the healing. I could not have functioned had I not used the Isocort. So I came at the adrenals from two directions. Also, I think (no scientific proof of this) that when your adrenals don't function for long periods that it would be easy for them to "forget" their job. I believe the Isocort keeps that from happening as it forces the adrenals to kick out the cortisol. As I got to feeling better and better from diet, rest, herbs, etc. then I started backing off the cortisol to see if my adrenals would work on their own. And they did. I could tell if I needed the Isocort. If I was going to be having a particularly stressful day (caregiving at that time) I made sure to take an Isocort so I wouldn't crash. As I got better and better the B12 was/is enough to carry me through. So the healing has been a SLOW progression.

I think using good wisdom and common sense with any of the supplements is important. I can't answer the nursing questions. But I know Cara can!

patti

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Re: Herbal Remedies to Boost a Tired Out Adrenal Gland?
« Reply #181 on: February 02, 2009, 12:24:51 PM » by cecac

Hello Momofkings,

I've been pregnant four times with adrenal difficulty. I've nursed 2 of those times. The last two times I nursed/bottle fed for the first six weeks (3 mos with #10) and then completely weaned. That may be something to consider. Somehow, I felt that nursing was harder (I think due to getting up at night) than pregnancy for me.

If you are adrenal fatigued/exhausted, then I would honestly suggest that someone else get up with baby at night, or at least share with you. It is just that after birth is a rather touchy time in so far as there is alot of healing that is going on. I have had the situation where I wiped out my adrenals (though it took a few months) breastfeeding. It can creep up on you.

In my experience being Isocort dependent is untrue. I am cautious with Drenamin at this time. I take 2 total, one in the a.m. and one at lunch. It is, for me, a way to stimulate the adrenals to do what they are supposed to do and also to nourish them. I may not even should be doing that, but I don't think it will hurt too badly at that small dose.

In pregnancy, I took Isocort with #10 because I knew I had had adrenal stress for a long time. I could not miss a dose in pregnancy without feeling a bit of difference. It held depression at bay for me, that is all.

In 1-2 pregnancies before, I took Drenamin, I think it was 2 in a.m. and two at lunch. I didn't take any after 2 pm, for it would keep me up at night. It helped with being tired all the time. I took it postpartum for a while, too.

I know you can get Standard Process on the Internet. We actually have a pharmacy here in Austin that sells it and has trained pharmacists to answer your questions, so perhaps that is also an option. The chain is People's RX.

I personally have not tried to take anything herbal (licorice, maca root) in pregnancy. I do not believe it is recommended.

Taking a food source B vitamin is a must, IMHO. As well, plenty of minerals is something that was imperative for me. Immediately when I got pregnant last time, I started into major heart palps and one day even a slight amount of aggressive feelings that are not normal for me. Those were both signs of magnesium deficiency. I also struggle with anemia, so that has been necessary to supplement.

I am unsure if my mineral deficiencies are connected with adrenal stress. I have gone anemic from pregnancy #1. Undecided

B vitamin deficiencies are connected to adrenal stress, from what I've read and understood.

I think I got off Isocort fairly "cold turkey" if I remember correctly. When I didn't need it anymore, I knew I didn't need it.

It might help you to look at your symptoms to see what you actually need to do, what you need to take. You could list your symptoms for us, and maybe some of us have helped those symptoms by various means in pregnancy so we could share that with you.

Here are a few things to consider:

Are you getting 7-8 hours of sleep at night, and a small nap during the day?
Are you physically exhausted alot?
How is your blood pressure, generally normal? Or, is it low?

I hope that helps,
Cara

PS: Something else I had been doing and am now starting up again: I am taking High Vitamin Butter Oil and Cod liver oil tabs. High fat, in my limited reading, is good for adrenal/endocrine system healing. I get the High Vit Butter oil at www.radiantlifecatalog.com

In the book by Dr. Wilson, he recommends 1 T of flax and sunflower oil, I think. Undecided

I need to look that up, though, so don't go to the bank on that one. I likely need to add some sunflower oil with my butter oil in a shake every morning.

That is something that is good in pregnancy, too, high quality fats. So, I would suggest that in pregnancy, nursing, and also for someone like me who needs to keep on the healing path.

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« Reply #182 on: February 02, 2009, 03:50:21 PM » by momofkings

Thank you both for your replies. I will list my symptoms in a second, and then tell you what I have been doing and what I just started doing.
Let's see....this has been going on for a long time. I mentioned that I had exhausted adrenals 5 years ago and was treated just for a few months before I got pregnant with #5. I have had nothing since that time for anything. I was also on an anti candida diet then. When I got pregnant, that time I stuck with a high raw, veg. juices, some meat maybe 1-2 times a week. After that I slowly got away from that eating and stopped juicing. I tried to do green smoothies and that type of thing, ate more meat, etc. A few years ago I found out about Weston Price Foundation and started adopting some of those things. I still cannot eat raw meat, but take high vitamin cod liver oil, just started butter oil, started using coconut oil more. We grind our flour and I had a very high grain diet. I was told I had a gluten sensitivity 5 years ago. It was determined by muscle testing. I wasn't sure about that and after I went off all those diets I pretty much have had all kinds of unsoaked grains, including those with gluten. I know I sound so dense.....In the meantime I had 2 miscarriages, then one month later got pregnant with #6, who I am nursing now, she is almost 1.

I have had chronic pain for a long time. Pretty much my back and neck, but also some pain predominantly on my left side (neck, upper back, chest, under arm, sometimes left breast). No one seems to know what this is from. Recently I noticed a puffy feeling on my side. I have checked and checked and my breast doesn't look different, but the part on the side that goes to the armpit is different. It doesn't look swollen, just like extra fat there.

I have been tested for rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, thyroid. Was told I was fine. I do have a high c reactive protein level, which no dr has told me why, just that it is from some sort of inflammation in my body......It dawned on me in my reading that coritisol is an anti inflamatory, so if I'm not making much of it, it would stand to reason that I would have inflammation. Have any of you had this issue?

I have dealt with a lot of anxiety, feeling of being overwhelmed, kind of numb inside emotionally, low libido, lack of energy yet not being able to sleep until really late at night. It's gotten so that I feel like I am going to "pop" sometimes....noise really bothers me, light really bothers me, I haven't felt like I can consistently take in a full, deep breath for so long I can't remember, I feel hopeless a lot of time, never get excited about things that I used to, I have pushed myself for so long to suck it up and get it all done and I think I am paying for it now. I am realizing that is exactly the way to get worse. I didn't make the connections before for some reason. Oh, and my mind feels like mush a lot of the time, can't really remember things. ( a recent example...I hardly ever wear tampons but I was on my period and wanted to go in the hottub. We live in Florida and it is outside, it is so nice in the winter and helps me to feel a little better and relax, so I didn't want to miss time doing that. Well, I got distracted and went on with the weekend. It must have been rainng or something because I didn't go in the hottub the next night, then the next day, like 48 hours later, I realized I still had the tampon in!!! I took care of that, called my ob, researched on line and thank God I was fine.) But those kinds of things happen to me and that is NOT llike me, the old me anyway. Most recently I have started having diarrhea whenever I poop. Not crampy sick feeling, just when I normally go, it has gotten to be diarrhea, so I know something is wrong digestion wise. I am also at my highest weight ever (I recently started losing a little) Ok, those cover most of my symptoms I think.

What I am doing now, just started last week.
I am trying to follow some of the healing things in Eat Fat, Lose Fat, which I had ordered right before I realized the connection. I am taking 6T coconut oil a day and drinking broth. I am eating small meals/snacks every 2-4 hours to keep blood sugar up. I have cut out all sugar and gluten grains. I'm trying to have protein every time I eat. I'm TRYING to go to bed earlier and sleep in until I wake up naturally, I already had been taking high vit clo/sometimes butter oil through the past year. Supplements that I amtaking:
Rainbow Light Prenatal Vites
Sublingual B 12
Calcium/Magnesium
Coconut Oil, like I mentioned, just started that
Food Based B vitamins, just started
was taking epo but stopped because it isn't supposed to be taken if pregnant and i'm not sure when or if I am ovulating now
I am also rebounding (health bounce only) at 10 min intervals, so far I am up to 40 minutes a day and taking a gentle daily walk.
Also trying to rest more, going through my life and identifyling things that stress me and getting rid of them, and even things that would interfere with me resting.

Still trying to homeschool 4 of our children, keep up with our 'firecracker' 3 year old, and nurse our almost 1 year old.....

I think that is all I am taking, although I even wonder if I should be if I am not absorbing anything.

Well, what do you think? So, you both are saying that you just ordered the isocort and decided on your own how much to take, etc? You didn't work through a doctor?

Thanks again, it's nice to know there are people who understand.
Blessings,
Jackie

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« Reply #183 on: February 02, 2009, 04:23:38 PM » by cecac

Well, talk about brain fog. Ugh. Somehow I thought you were preggars.

What you are doing sounds really good to me. It might be that you need to keep going at what you are doing and give it time?

Patti, hopefully, can chime in for you on Isocort. I did start taking it on my own and talked to Patti about it at that time. I am not under a doctor care.

One thing I will mention is that your diarrhea might be from the 6 T of coconut oil. That may be too much. In Eat Fat Lose Fat (I've tried to somewhat do the Health Recovery in there at times) recommends a total of 3 T. per day. Many people cannot tolerate even that much, so you may want to cut that down.

That is one thing I notice about adrenal fatigue and diet for myself: I cannot do anything diet wise that is a little different than just 3 basic meals (or the 5 like you are talking about) with equal portions of grain/protein/veggie. I get to feeling badly very quickly. I was trying to do a bit of a diet. I've been on shakes with Standard Process SP Complete, two per day without much food and I bottomed out today, day three. I am going to have to eat my two eggs in the morning, I guess.

Hope that helps,
Cara

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« Reply #184 on: February 02, 2009, 06:16:34 PM » by mykidsmom

Jackie,

I think what you're doing is fine. The diarrhea can be caused from a lack of absorption of the fats. Try taking enzymes with the same amount of fat and see if that helps. I would highly recommend Bio Gest by Thorne. Take two capsules per meal for a week and see if you notice a difference. If you don't, then cut back on your oils. If you do, then you'll know the issue is digestion/absorption of your fats.

I took the Isocort AGAINST the advice of my naturepath. I started out taking one in the AM and one in the PM for a few weeks. I felt a little better, but not a ton. So I upped it to two in the AM and two in the PM. There was a point, when I was a caregiver for my MIL, that I was taking 3 in the AM and 3 in the PM (PM meaning lunchtime). I self regulated based on how I was feeling. I would drop it down when I felt like enough healing had taken place that I wanted to see if my adrenals would kick in with the cortisol. I *think* I was on Isocort for two years or a little less before I was able to stop taking it. Maybe it was longer - time escapes me and I didn't document anything.

As far as adrenal healing goes, I think you're doing what you need to, you're just going to have to give it time. I do think you should try the Isocort to bring you to a functioning level. Keep in mind when you're adrenals aren't functioning, the rest of your hormones aren't at their best either. So if you can bring your adrenals up you will also allow the rest of your hormones to hopefully level out.

patti

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Re: Herbal Remedies to Boost a Tired Out Adrenal Gland?
« Reply #185 on: February 02, 2009, 10:43:02 PM » by momofkings

I am on a quest for digestive enzymes but most say not to take while pregnant/nursing. How can that be? Aren't digestive enzymes just what our own bodies are supposed to be making? I know I need them, not sure if they are all the same. I have a high c reactive protein level which I read could be helped with pancreatic enzymes. I don't know at this point if that is the same as digestive enzymes, but know I need both.

I will try backing off of the coconut oil. I went ahead with the larger dose because I have had coconut oil in my diet for quite a while, although never at that level. But the diarrhea started before I started taking it, so that isn't the original cause. I know I need some enzymes.

Thanks for the encouragement. I know I am doing SOME of the things I need to be doing, but I know I NEED supplemental health for my adrenal gland/cortisol level and I NEED a digestive and/or pancreatic enzyme. Plus I NEED to continue nursing my daughter.

It seems hard to make sense out of all of it while dealing with all the regular adrenal exhaustion issues, but it has to be done. This is one area where I am continuing to push myself. I want to get what I need to get my life back. Cry

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« Reply #186 on: February 03, 2009, 12:37:23 AM » by mykidsmom

Jackie,

I *think* that all supplements say you aren't to take them while nursing/pregnant (unless they're for that purpose). Unless someone else has a different opinion and solid reasoning for it, I think you should take digestive enzymes if you're in need of them (I believe you are). If you aren't digesting/absorbing your food well, your baby isn't going to either. Pregnant or nursing. So the best thing for baby is going to be a fully digested/absorb nutrition that they can use to grow either via umbilicus or breast. I do believe Bio Gest is the best I've used and seen out there. The ox bile in particular is a strong fat digesting enzyme.

patti

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« Reply #187 on: February 03, 2009, 01:38:54 AM » by savedbygrace

Quote from: momofkings on February 02, 2009, 03:50:21 PM

Have you tried Enzymatic Therapy ADRENergize (Formerly Adrenal-Cortex Complex) ? This is the formula I took for my adrenal weakness. It helped a lot! I just took one bottle worth. I use to have to take a multi-vitamin or I wouldnt get through the day. Now I forget to take my vitamins because my energy levels are fine! Also, you sound like you need Acidophilus for the stomach issues. You can take that no problem if youre nursing or whatever. You will have to wait until you are no longer nursing if you want to take the ADRENergize because of the licorice root in it. Not sure why, they just say doent take licorice root if prego or nursing. Any way, Hope you get to feeling better! You may want to see an iridologist. He may be able to pinpoint the problem better for you.

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« Reply #188 on: February 03, 2009, 11:24:13 AM » by momofkings

I understand that most all supplements have a standard 'warning' not to take if pregnant or nursing without the care of a health care practitioner. Some specificially say do not take when pregnant or nursing, so I think there may be a difference. I so don't want to do anything to harm my 1 year old while nursing, but I know I need help.

I have been researching the connection between high c reactive protein in blood and inflammation. It is scary stuff. I have had a c reactive protein of over 8 last time it was checked. It says that makes a 'high risk' for cardiovascular disease, including heart attacks and strokes. As I was researching, pancreatic enzymes came up as a way to reduce inflammation and c reactive protein. Anyway, my foggy brain keeps getting confused because these particular high potency pancreatic enzymes are to be taken when NOT eating so they can combat inflammation. I know I need these. However, I know I also need something for when I eat. Do you think it would be too much to take both? It is just so confusing.

The ingredients in the high potency pancreatic enzymes that I looked at are:
Protese 4.5 (from Aspergillus oryzae) 15,000 HUT
Bromelain (from pineapple extract) 9,000,000 FCCPU
Protease 6 (from Aspergillus oryzae) 120,000 HUT
Serrarzimeo (from Aspergillus oryzae and Aspergillus melleus) 120,000 U
Papain (from papaya extract) 3,000,000 FCCPU
Rutin 150 mg
also containes cellulose, veg. stearate, dicalciu, phosphate, silica.

The ingredients for the digestive enzymes:
Niacin 30 mg
Vit B6 1.5 mg
Sodium 5 mg
Potassium 50 mg (not good for adrenal fatigue....)
Betaine HCl 975 mg
L-Glutamic Acid HCl 585 mg
Pepsin 1:3000 292 mg
Ammonium Chloride 96 mg
Ox Bile Extract 45 mg
Papain 6X 15 mg
Pancreatic enzymes 4X 7.5 mg
cellulose, mod. cellulose gum, stearic acid, carob fruit color, ethylcellulose, magnesium stearate, silicone dioxide, and carnauba wax.

I don't know what a lot of that stuff is......the first one is to be taken for inflammation, the 2nd for digestion. Anyone who knows more about the ingredients and amounts know if they would be safe to take while nursing? I need both of them. I am sure I am not absorbing the nutrients I need, based on the diarrhea I constantly have had. I started taking probiotics and eating more yogurt, but I feel like I need to pull out some 'big guns' to get me out of this pit.

I wonder if others suffer from chronic inflammation with adrenal fatigue (internal). It would make sense since cortisol is an anti inflammatory. I just don't want to mess around with it because the research is showing that a high c reactive protein number is a very good indicator of awful things happening. Then that makes the anxiety worse. It's a viscious cycle. I wonder if adding cortisol supplements to help with adrenal, and inflammation plus a digestive enzyme would be best? I do feel I also need the pancreatic because of the specific connection with the c reactive protein problem

I'm scared to self medicate but at the same time have no doctor who is on the same page with this type of supplementation.

Jackie

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« Reply #189 on: February 03, 2009, 05:26:45 PM » by mykidsmom

Jackie,

I know nothing about the c-reactive protein except that you're right, high is not good. The digestive enzyme to take when you eat that you listed has ingredients that I think aren't going to be helpful. You need a straight enzyme. Papain, protease, amylase, pancreatic enzymes, etc. None of the extras. Go straight for enzymes. I can only recommend what we use because I've seen it work. So other then Bio Gest I don't know what else to recommend.

The diarrhea could also be gluten allergy. I know you mentioned you removed gluten from your diet. It's also an indicator of poor fat digestion. I think you're heading the right direction as far as supplementation goes and that's all you can do. I believe you also need to have a good probiotic. You can check into VSL#3 - 1/2 sachel 4x's a day. I would take it 3-4 months then go to a regular probiotic like PB-8 or something.

I did want to offer to anyone who wants it - I found my last bottle of Isocort today. It is open but has only had a few pellets removed (there's normally 240). I'll give it to whomever wants it. PM me with your address.

patti

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« Reply #190 on: February 03, 2009, 05:51:38 PM » by momofkings

Thanks, Patti. I have been researching the enzymes today and basically it looks like taking enzymes for the inflammation and taking digestive enzymes are 2 different things all together. One could take the high potency pancreatic enzymes for digestion, but for them to be effective for the inflammation, they need to be taken on an empty stomach. Again, my only concern is that I am nursing. Is it possible to get too much of the enzymes? The only ones that are effective for the inflammation are the full potency 10X pancreatic enzymes. I've seen them in BioZyme and Mega Zyme brands so far. I know our bodies make the same enzymes, but would that be too much hile I am nursing?

Also, what about digestion? I need that too. These would not be taken for digestion in my case. I was told by another friend that it would be fine to take both. Take the high potency ones on an empty stomach for inflammation and take a less potent digestive enzyme with meals. That would be absolutely perfect if I knew for sure it was safe while nursing.

Jackie

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« Reply #191 on: February 03, 2009, 11:00:08 PM » by mykidsmom

Jackie,

I think I would research the c-reactive protein thing first before doing enzymes for it. I will look tonight and see what I find in my herbal/supplements books. My thinking is that taking care of your poor digestion is likely going to help the inflammation of the c-reactive protein. But let me see what I find. At this point, I would recommend starting with your digestion. Personally, I wouldn't be comfortable taking that many enzymes - but that's your call.

I'll let you know what I find in my books and such.

patti

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« Reply #192 on: February 03, 2009, 11:36:32 PM » by momofkings

I spent pretty much all day reading about enzymes and c reactive protein with inflammation and all the other nasty things that it can be associated with. I think that this may be new research, so I'm not sure if it will be in books or not. I found things online at Dr. Colbert's website and a few other articles as well. I just did a search and those things came up. They seem very clear that in order to combat the chronic inflammation that causes a high c reactive protein reading, one must take the 10X full strength pancreatic enzyme IN BETWEEN meals. It is only being used for inflammation.

That's where I run into my dilemna, because I know for sure I need the other too. In fact, this is gross and probably tmi but I noticed today little lettuce pieces floating in the stool. The diarrhea has been going on for a while, but I had never noticed that. I just last week went off gluten and sugar, do you think that has any bearing? I would think that it would begin to make things better. Or maybe it's been like that for a while but I didn't notice?

Anyway, thanks for checking and helping me through this. I think I need to start looking at the healing your gut thread next. I pray one day I will be all fixed up....

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« Reply #193 on: July 11, 2009, 12:22:53 AM » by 4myhoonie

Quote from: Mama Sita on September 06, 2007, 08:01:46 AM

Quote from: just jane on September 05, 2007, 03:18:48 PM

There is a book mentioned in this posting called something like the 21st century and adrenal crisis. That book is so good.

Yes, yes!!! This is an EXCELLENT book!! Adrenal Fatigue: The 21st Century Stress Syndrome . I think this is the same book that you are talking about. The author is James Wilson.

I have the book personally, and it lists several things you can do for yourself for adrenal fatigue. My brother suffered with severe adrenal fatigue, and for him, the most helpful supplement was B-5 or pantothenic acid. He said he can't believe the difference in how he feels. Even his ND failed to recommend B-5, but after my brother read the book, put himself on B-5 and noticed the 100% improvement, he is sold on pantothenic acid!!

Yes, he is doing the salt, too, but it wasn't enough. His diet is already very good and he is a mason, outside exercising constantly in the heat, so lack of exercise wasn't a concern, either. Just mainly stress in his life.

i am wondering about how much of the pantothenic acid is safe? especially during pregnancy. right now i am taking one pill of 500 mg. recently i have changed my diet, mostly because the pregnancy made a lot of things get worse. but the last few days i have been having my heart do funny things, it's not really pounding, i've had that before, but just not beating normally. it will go on for a while, then go back to normal. my life is very stressful right now. i should be salting my food heavily, but never do. let me know if you have any othe suggestions. thanks!

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« Reply #194 on: July 11, 2009, 07:03:19 AM » by cecac

I cannot comment on how much pantothenic acid is safe, but I did want to comment that you may need to be careful with the salt. The adrenals (from what I've understood) are responsible for the balance of sodium and potassium as well. So, it may would be a balancing act.

I have had pregnancy induced hypertension and it may have been associated with adrenal fatigue. My heart would pound alot, flip flop, and etc especially during my last pregnancy a little over a year ago.

I saw some success with taking magnesium. Really, I personally had to take the basic minerals very consistently as that seemed to be a weak spot. The B vitamins, also, I had to make sure I took them from as natural a source as possible. I would personally think that a balanced B vitamin would perhaps be safe, and it would generally have pantothenic acid.

Hope that helps,

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« Reply #195 on: July 11, 2009, 07:24:15 AM » by Mama Sita

In the above mentioned book, a very high quality vitamin C is also recommended for exhausted adrenal glands. I don't remember the dosage (book is loaned out somewhere), but I remember it being rather high. I'll see if I can find it.

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« Reply #196 on: July 11, 2009, 11:02:50 AM » by cecac

Vitamin C is one thing I absolutely couldn't take, and I've wondered if other adrenal fatigue people have had the same issue. I get hive like reactions and break out in sores on my face. I also have a natural aversion to citrus fruit.

Sometimes, I wonder if adrenal fatigued people can have an overproduction that goes on. It has been my experience that my adrenals do not regulate very well under stress (like pregnancy when more jobs are going on in the body). Sensitivites to light, sound, perfumes, chemicals in enviornment and food, etc, can really start to show. And in my particular case, vitamin C..........and again in my case vitamins in general, for many of them are chemical or in some other way altered. And that, for me, has caused hyper-reactions and crashes.

If vitamin C can be taken, I personally think the most natural solution to that adrenal issue would be lemon in water every day or one piece of citrus fruit. That way you can be certain it is complete.

Oh, and I haven't been on in a long while: Congratulations 4myhoonie!! Kiss

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« Reply #197 on: July 11, 2009, 12:15:05 PM » by mykidsmom

Quote from: cecac on July 11, 2009, 11:02:50 AM

Cecac,

You are allergic to citrus that's why you're reacting to vit. C. I have been taking Emergen-C and found it to be very helpful. I used to not be able to take it because of my bladder but now that that has healed enough I can stand it. I had my Vit. D tested and it was 19 and the lowest is supposed to be 32 so I'm on 10000mg. of Vit. D a day now. And NOW, I feel really good! So I wonder how many of us are vit. D deficient that are also adrenal deficient? I can tell my adrenals are still fatigued but I'm not collapsing at 4:00 like I was. Still tired, but able to push through, whereas before I couldn't.

patti

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« Reply #198 on: August 26, 2009, 10:43:33 PM » by 4myhoonie

Quote from: cecac on June 25, 2008, 08:20:57 PM

My dd17 is not taking Drenamin, but she is taking Thytrophin. I share that with you because it didn't take long for her symptoms of thyroid to leave, either. She quit losing hair pronto. Also, yesterday, she skipped her supplements and ended up tired. Thytrophin is the same for thyroid as Drenamin is for adrenals. So, there again, it wasn't long.

Oh, and Drenamin didn't do anything for dd17, either. So, I dunno, maybe you ought to look at thyroid, too?

Just some thoughts,
Cara

hey Cara! i was just rereading this old thread and came across this! my 17 year old daughter has lost GOBS of hair in the spring 2 years in a row. she also has little peaks on her forehead, where the hair never gets thick (me too) i am just wondering if it could be thyroid related? where do i start? i have had no luck around here with dr.s or chiros, really solving any of my problems and am hesitant to try them again. i have an appt for myself with a new DO friday, we will see how he pans out. let me know what you think about the hair loss. thanks!

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Re: Herbal Remedies to Boost a Tired Out Adrenal Gland?
« Reply #199 on: August 27, 2009, 08:44:48 AM » by cecac

Quote from: 4myhoonie on August 26, 2009, 10:43:33 PM

Quote from: cecac on June 25, 2008, 08:20:57 PM

Hi 4myhoonie,

Edith isn't taking anything right now, and seems to be doing fine. She still has times when she loses hair, and we wonder if it isn't summer heat or stress. Either way, I guess we figure her endocrine system just can get overwhelmed at times and kick out symptoms.

If your dd is 17, I wonder if all the "horomone growing" of her age causes some symptoms/tiredness. I would hope that continuing with what you are doing as well as some more time for stabalizing horomones will put your dd to rights. That is what has happened with Edith.

Another thing........I know that staying away from sugar/chemicals/preservatives and regular exercise help in the teenage stage. It has proven so with Edith, but also it was that way with me at that age.

If you want, you could have your dd's thyroid checked. You likely know about the ins and outs of thyroid testing. Roll Eyes

Evidently, the one that your regular MD will take may or may not indicate an issue. I would agree with you that your dd's symptoms may lean more toward thyroid than adrenal.

Oh goodness.....and going to chiros, etc. I hear you about not knowing if you should continue with them when it doesn't seem to improve the situation much. That is why I'm Roll Eyes

about the controversy over MD/naturopath/chiros. MD's are paid for by insurance. The others are not. Sometimes I sure wonder about all the hype. Just more ways to get our money, kwim?

I don't know if I've helped you any, but there are some thoughts. May the Lord give you wisdom and peace for your dd.

Blessings,
Cara

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« Reply #200 on: August 27, 2009, 11:00:00 AM » by 4myhoonie

thanks Cara, yeah, we try for her to have a healthy diet, it just seems strange that it was in the spring then tapers off both times.

her periods and cramps, pms, etc. and growing have really leveled out lately, so maybe it won't happen next spring. it just makes her so distraught to be losing so much hair. a huge rat in the drain each morning. Cry

yeah, i have had tests done and everything came back "normal" so don't see the point in taking her to my MD. however, the chiros always put you on a bunch of expensive supps, that don't actually do anything. i don't ever feel any different after taking a batch of them. the DO i'm seeing tomorrow will be out of network, but at least my ins. will pay me back for the appt and hopefully the tests if there are any.

well, thanks a bunch for your advice! i will refer back i'm sure! Christy

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« Reply #201 on: August 27, 2009, 11:01:37 AM » by 4myhoonie

Quote from: cecac on August 27, 2009, 08:44:48 AM

so the Thytrophin might be something to check into for Thyroid if the hair loss starts again? do you have to get it through a dr.? it's Standard Process right?

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« Reply #202 on: August 27, 2009, 03:44:58 PM » by cecac

Quote from: 4myhoonie on August 27, 2009, 11:01:37 AM

Quote from: cecac on August 27, 2009, 08:44:48 AM

so the Thytrophin might be something to check into for Thyroid if the hair loss starts again? do you have to get it through a dr.? it's Standard Process right?

Goodness, I'm sorry. I forgot to talk about that. Yes, it is Standard Process. I personally can get the Standard Process supplements from a pharmacy that is into alternative things. Can you buy it online? I've seen some companies selling Standard Process online.......If you can get it might you want to start her on a bit of it now instead of waiting? I don't know that it would hurt her and it might just give a needed boost. One bottle of it might be a help, perhaps 1-2 at breakfast and the same at lunch.

What do you think?

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« Reply #203 on: August 28, 2009, 10:41:28 PM » by 4myhoonie

Quote from: cecac on August 27, 2009, 03:44:58 PM

Quote from: 4myhoonie on August 27, 2009, 11:01:37 AM

Quote from: cecac on August 27, 2009, 08:44:48 AM

so the Thytrophin might be something to check into for Thyroid if the hair loss starts again? do you have to get it through a dr.? it's Standard Process right?

idk, i think i need more info. i just ordered the zypan i am using from amazon, and got free sh, and saved the thytrophin so i'd remember what it was. thanks for your help!

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Re: Herbal Remedies to Boost a Tired Out Adrenal Gland?
« Reply #204 on: September 08, 2009, 05:59:58 PM » by Pastorswife2B

I've started dealing with some fairly severe symptoms I have linked back to my adrenal glands. I have started taking vit C (decided on Acerola cherry powder), an herbal tincture from mountain meadow herbs (I am nursing so no licorice for me). My issue is trying to find a good natural source of pentathenic acid. I am very sensative to the solvents that most companies use to derive their vitamins so I haven't been successful in finding a supplement for the B's that works for me. Anybody have a recommendation on that one?

Thanks!
-Heather

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« Reply #205 on: September 08, 2009, 09:41:22 PM » by herbalmom

Royal jelly is high in Pantothenic acid & all the other B vits as well. According to Wiki, whole-grain cereals, legumes, eggs & meat are also high in it. HTH

BTW- which MMH formula are you taking? What's the ingreds?

Blessings ~herbalmom

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« Reply #206 on: September 09, 2009, 11:42:10 AM » by wyomama3

Heather-
I've noticed that a progesterone cream has really helped me. I use Beeyoutiful Balance. Hormones play a big role in adrenal function. Along with that I am taking a Pantothenic acid from NOW. I have not ordered from Mountain Meadow yet, but I have researched their product, and will soon add it to my supplements.
The brown spots on my face, and other symptoms seem to really come forth when I'm lacking in sleep and taking in caffeine. I mean, I REALLY notice it when my sleep is altered.

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« Reply #207 on: September 10, 2009, 03:15:30 PM » by Pastorswife2B

Herbalmom - I am trying to decide between nutritional yeast and royal jelly, I have some nutritional yeast so I started taking that, but to get very much of the B's I have to take ALLOT and the stuff taste likes but... On the other hand I've gone through so many supplements lately that turned out to not work for me I'm a little gun shy at buying anything else. If I could find some kind of a source that discussed the extraction/collection method for Royal Jelly I would feel much more secure about deciding to take it.

MMH formula I'm taking is Adren-L-aid II it has Astragalus rt, Eleuthero rt, Wild yam rt and Golden rt.

Wyom- I completely agree that sleep patterns/quality will predict my functional level 95% of the time (the other 5% being God's extra grace to spare me =-). and not to knock NOW's products since I like some of their stuff, but I had to quit taking their pantothenic acid because it kept triggering my crashes which come in the form of random unexplained Potassium shifts. the last 2 weeks (the duration of my experiment with the supplement) have consisted of my losing the ability to walk about every other day, my husband restricting me from driving and my mom in a panicky must-check-on-heather mode. Tongue

Like I said, gun shy! because I'm not excited about doing that again.

Anyway if anybody finds a link on Royal Jelly send it my way..

-Heather

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« Reply #208 on: September 11, 2009, 03:56:39 PM » by 4myhoonie

hi all! Cara, if you have time i need some convincing! i got the drenamin, but i am a bit hesitant to use it. please tell me what exactly it is going to do for me. i have occasional heart fluttering, not really pounding. pretty much daily. my other symptoms are major bags under my eyes, can't get up in the morning, burping that i can't get rid of, better, but not gone since giving up food allergens. was using zypan for that, but not all the time. anyway, exactly what will it do for me, for the baby? i don't really understand it.

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Re: Herbal Remedies to Boost a Tired Out Adrenal Gland?
« Reply #209 on: September 11, 2009, 04:32:11 PM » by 4myhoonie

Quote from: momofkings on February 02, 2009, 03:50:21 PM

I have dealt with a lot of anxiety, feeling of being overwhelmed, kind of numb inside emotionally, low libido, lack of energy yet not being able to sleep until really late at night. It's gotten so that I feel like I am going to "pop" sometimes....noise really bothers me, light really bothers me, I haven't felt like I can consistently take in a full, deep breath for so long I can't remember, I feel hopeless a lot of time, never get excited about things that I used to...............................

this sounds a TON like me!

Quote from: momofkings on February 02, 2009, 03:50:21 PM

I am taking 6T coconut oil a day and drinking broth.

i don't know if anyone has said this, but this could be causing the diarrhea. that happened to my hubby when he overdid it.

Quote from: momofkings on February 02, 2009, 03:50:21 PM

Still trying to homeschool 4 of our children, keep up with our 'firecracker' 3 year old, and nurse our almost 1 year old.....

i have a four year old that is just that way!!!

ok, Cara i think her description is better than when i tried to describe my symptoms. i have had a lot of that for a long time, esp. the depression in winter. but even at the beginning of the summer this year.

oh, and for anyone else, i bought Zypan and Drenamin from Amazon.com w/ free shipping. the company is advanced nutritionals.

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