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« on: June 01, 2006, 10:25:00 AM » by TwinkleToes

Has anyone ever used this shake? How did you like it? Did it taste good? And more importantly, any noticeable health benefits? It sounds good, but I don't want to be a sucker, so anyone with opinions -- I welcome them!! Grin

Thanks. Here's the link:

http://www.mercola.com/forms/whey_healthier.htm

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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2006, 10:46:22 PM » by StephTallent

My BIL is in desperate need of gaining weight. We have him on a ton of supplements including a Yeast/Parasite Cleanse. To be honest I don't think his weight problems are due to candida though. His metabolism is truly amazing. In an effort to gain weight he is eating 6 times a day with a high protein diet. It is difficult for him to get as much protein in as he needs though without resorting to protein shakes. He is 26 years old and 6' 4" tall with a uber fast metabolism. Right now he sort of resembles a super skinny scare crow. Cheesy

I was reading through the list of some of the ingredients in the protein powder we have on hand and was concerned that I couldn't pronounce over half the stuff on it.

So I have some questions.

What is the most healthy natural brand of protein powder out there?

What forms are the easiest for the body to process?

Are protein powders actually "safe" to be used? Huh

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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2006, 10:52:07 PM » by healthyinOhio

My hubby is the same way. He has been a stick his whole life!

6'1" and around 165lbs. Makes me so jealous that he never gains weight. He has tried eating all the time, but not protein shakes. Let me know if it works for your BIL
The only thing that I know is most of them are made with soy. I think there is one with whey, but I think that one has a little soy in it, too.

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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2006, 11:44:09 PM » by babymakers

What are the ingredients?

If it is soy like the above commenter said you might want to reconsider the shakes. Soy can be consumed, but, in large amounts, by a man is really not good. It will hurt him in the long run.

Plus, I learned this and found it very interesting. We are taught protein, protein, protein, you need more protein. Did you know that the average human body only needs enough protein to equal the same size as 13 pennies? That is not very much. It is something that you can easily obtain from plant sources which is what God had originally intended for man to eat anyhow. I better stop there before I go down a rabbit trail. LOL The point is don't believe everything they teach you in school.

Is he healthy? If he is does he really need to gain weight? Is there any chance God just made him to be thin?

If nothing else you need to find out what those unpronounceable names are. They sell books to help you decipher names into our language. The food companies must do that on purpose.

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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2006, 12:04:47 AM » by StephTallent

The protein powder being used right now is from Whey. Unless one of those weird names is an extract from Soy it doesn't openly state anything in it is Soy. So, hopefully we're safe there.

He is built to have a slim build like my husband, but there is a big difference between slim and emaciated looking. He used to weigh between 175 and 180 but has since wasted down to 160 on his heaviest days now. Undecided

A real fly weight for 6' 4"

We are trying to include as many naturally occurring sources of protein as possible in his regular diet but it doesn't seem to be enough for him to gain weight on. He has made it up to 160 since supplementing with the protein so it must be doing something! Cheesy

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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2006, 12:31:13 AM » by AndysJess

I don't know a whole lot about this (has never been a problem of mine, unfortunately), but I remember reading somewhere...I think on this site...that avocado is good for putting fat on underweight babies. Maybe the same principle could apply.

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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2006, 12:50:24 AM » by servantgirl

I suggest Goatein from Garden of life for a protein supplement. It's made with raw goat milk. Very gentle on the digestive system. Better than Whey or Soy.
As for those whey protein isolates, Sally Fallon of Weston Price Foundation (Nourishing traditions) is not fond of their use. Quote form her:

"Soy protein comes with an initial burden of phytic acid, enzyme inhibitors and isoflavones. More toxins are formed during high-temperature chemical processing, including nitrates, lysinalanine and MSG. Soy protein must be processed at very high temperatures to reduce levels of phytic acid and enzyme inhibitors, a process that over-denatures many of the proteins in soy, especially lysine, making them unavailable to the body.

Whey protein is inherently fragile and must be processed at low temperatures or its qualities as a protein are destroyed. That is why casein rather than whey protein is used in animal chow. When cheese, butter and cream were made on the farm, the whey and skim milk were given to the pigs and chickens. But today these products are made in factories far from the farms where they originated, so the industry has a "whey problem," solved by drying the skim milk and whey at high temperatures and putting the powders into energy drinks, body building powders and high-protein bars.

Other major ingredients include high fructose corn syrup (or concentrated fruit juices, which are high in fructose), an ingredient that has been shown to be worse for test animals than sugar. "

My own thought- maybe his thyroid is overactive, or he has some other glandular problem? If so, plenty of coconut oil will help, in addition to eating enough other calories.

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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2006, 01:50:25 AM » by healthybratt

Quote from: JessicaI on August 03, 2006, 12:31:13 AM

Avocados are a great source for omega 3 fats. That's exactly what I was going to recommend. You need to be feeding him lots of good fats or supplementing them.

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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2006, 06:20:08 PM » by 3boysmyjoys

Yep, I've got it. The flubber that just won't go away. Roll Eyes

I've been getting a little discouraged with it...wondering what I can do. Okay...I haven't tried THAT hard. Embarrassed

But, the other day some p[eople in our church came across this great diet plan called "Isagenix". It's like a cleanse/weight-loss program. So far it has done wonders for everyone. But, like everything else other than salvation it's NOT free. In fact it's quite pricey. Not in MY price range anyway!! Sad

So, I was thinking. They use whey protein shakes for two meals and have a regular meal once a day. Could I use the whey from my kefir to make a similarly beneficial shake and possibly...maybe...hopefully have a weight-loss plan that is inexpensive?

Give me some thoughts on this, ladies.

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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2006, 08:02:52 AM » by anynomouse

This may sound funny....Slim Fast used to make a great Soy protein shake mix, but they stopped making it. I am looking to lose a little weight, but mostly I am looking to have a quick easy nutrient filled meal without stopping for too long. Any suggestions? I know someone mentioned Mellaluca's shake in another post about post-pregnancy pound loss....anyone have experience with this. (I think I can get it through my in-laws who have signed up for Mellaluca) I am looking for something that I might find at my local co-op. Also, it needs to be low in sugar.
anyone?
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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2006, 09:23:42 AM » by lovinmy4

My husband uses Optimum Nutrition protein powder. It comes in 3 (or maybe 4) flavors and you can get it at GNC or some health food stores carry it. But the cheapest price I've found was at Bodybuilding.com. It tastes good and uses stevia and fructose for the sweetener.

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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2006, 10:12:49 PM » by hedy

I too am looking for a healthy protein supplement. I'm pregnant and have a hard time getting enough protein because I am not a big eater and do not crave protein while pregnant anyway. I'm leery of soy-based shakes. I was wondering if this would be a healthy supplement to throw into homemade shakes and stuff:

http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=631&HS=1&gclid=CJ3NzvPnx4cCFR0-Igod5h3zFQ

Is anyone familiar with this stuff?

Here is some more info on it: http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=2

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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2006, 10:56:09 PM » by ShannaC

Here is a website that sells an organic, raw vegan protein powder. I haven't tried it yet but it was recommended to me by a natural healthcare provider.

http://www.rawfood.com/?item_id=1017&d=single

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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2006, 11:30:49 PM » by PMESguy

Quote from: healthybratt on August 03, 2006, 01:50:25 AM

Quote from: JessicaI on August 03, 2006, 12:31:13 AM

Avocados are a great source for omega 3 fats. That's exactly what I was going to recommend. You need to be feeding him lots of good fats or supplementing them.

Perhaps you are thinking of monounsaturated fat from the avocado? Omega 3's are not plentyful in avocado. Omega 3's are a polyunsaturated fat which are mainly found in cold water fish. Wink

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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2006, 11:49:57 PM » by PMESguy

Quote from: StephTallent on August 02, 2006, 10:46:22 PM

I would suggest avoiding nearly all forms of commercially available soy and whey protein powders. They really are harmful to your health. By the time you eat them, they are so devialized and processed....they are essentially what Dr Weston A Price called a non-food. Meaning it would take more for you to digest and eliminate than it would provide in nutrition.

In my career as a holistic health coach, I've only come across two sources of whey protein powder that should be considered a food. One is called IMUPLUS (www.imuplus) which is a whey protein isolate commently given to cancer patients and those with supressed immune systems. It's over 99% pure and as you can imagine it is very expensive. It is also very fragile and cannot be mixed in a blender.

The other source is Ion-Exchange Whey Protein from a company called NutriHarmony (www.nutriharmony.com). It is sourced from raw cow's milk from New Zealand and is also very pure. It is 92% bioavailable and very high in glutathione. NutriHarmony is a great company and has excellent products and service. They are currently the only company in the world that has figured out how to make real food supplements that actually have food value! They are market-direct, so please feel free to PM me for more information. <--- that's my spam for the day!! Cheesy

Unfortunately the other sources for whey are pretty much a waste of your money. Yes you can get other forms of protein powder, but remember nutrition is a 5 step process. If the food never gets to your cells, then technically it's not nutrition.

I would also vouch for Goatein as another protein alternative. However, nothing can replace eathing high quality, nutrient dense foods in the correct proportion to you own individual/genetic needs (ie your metabolic type).

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« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2006, 06:29:28 AM » by Kati*did

Quote from: PMESguy on October 11, 2006, 11:49:57 PM

How do you reccomend a man gain weight if he doesn't like meat? He is a really healthy eater and eats lots of eggs for protein. Would you use a goat milk based powder in that case?

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« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2006, 10:24:26 AM » by healthybratt

Quote from: PMESguy on October 11, 2006, 11:30:49 PM

Quote from: healthybratt on August 03, 2006, 01:50:25 AM

Quote from: JessicaI on August 03, 2006, 12:31:13 AM

Avocados are a great source for omega 3 fats. That's exactly what I was going to recommend. You need to be feeding him lots of good fats or supplementing them.

Perhaps you are thinking of monounsaturated fat from the avocado? Omega 3's are not plentyful in avocado. Omega 3's are a polyunsaturated fat which are mainly found in cold water fish. Wink

Perhaps.... Grin

I stand corrected. Forgive me for this. Avocados, apparently are a good source of omega 9s not 3s. Roll Eyes

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« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2006, 12:05:54 PM » by PMESguy

Quote from: Kati*did on October 12, 2006, 06:29:28 AM

Quote from: PMESguy on October 11, 2006, 11:49:57 PM

How do you reccomend a man gain weight if he doesn't like meat? He is a really healthy eater and eats lots of eggs for protein. Would you use a goat milk based powder in that case?

Muscle is worth 3 times more mass on the body than fat. So it would be difficult to gain musle without a stimulus to do so. If he is active to the point that he is in energy balance, than the 'weight' will not increase on the scale. And when I say weight, I'm speaking of increased muscle mass. So therefore he would be best to combine a more nutrient dense diet and resistance training (ie lifting weights). What he really is after in the long run is hypertrophy (hyper=more, tropo=nutrition) or musle growth in size. A loose definition of hypertrophy is simply increased muscle mass.

A fully hydrated body can be as high as 75% water. You are more water than anything else...by at least 25% if you really think about it. You can drink 16 oz of water and gain a pound on the scale. So if he is not doing so already, I would suggest for him to drink at least half his body weight in fluid oz per day (.5 oz/lb body weight).

The improtant thing is that he's hydrated, not that he drinks plenty of water.

Those can be totally different in my experience. I once had an obese woman (300lbs +) tell me she drinks 'plenty of water' but when I had her actually keep track of her hydrating fluids (pure H20) vs dehydrating agents (caffeine, alcohol) she averaged about a liter per day (~33 oz) and she needed about 150 oz/day. She was chronically dehydrated and fed her self sugar and stimulants when all she needed was good ole H20!

The reason I keep saying 'about half your body weight in oz' is because it can vary quite a bit based on the overall water content in your diet, activity level, environment, how much you breath, sweat, move, etc. None the less, that is a good number to shoot for. For more information refer to Your Bodies Many Cries for Water (www.watercure.com). One of the most important books one can read for their health in my opinion.

You don't NEED to eat a lot of meat to gain weight. But you have to meet your individual needs for nutrients (protein, fat and carbs are all nutrients). The best way to determine one's individual nutrient needs is through metabolic typing (MT). We used to eat according to our MT for hundreds of thousands of years until mondernized farming practices and technology basically ruined the soil. Now we pretty much eat based on conditioning...or whichever processed food company has spent the most money in Washinton to get us to by their 'food'. They don't call it the Feedlot Pyramid for nothing Wink

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The easiest way to start is to take the 10 question test on Dr Mercola's site (www.mercola.com). It will give you a general indication of your macronutrient breakdown according to how you answered the questions. I've found that to be about 50% accurate. For more accuracy, I would suggest buying the book Mercola's test is based on called The Metabolic Typing Diet by William Wolcott and take the basic 64 question test. I've found that to be about 80% accurate. Go to www.metabolictyping.com for the book and more info.

Hope that helps!! Cheesy

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« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2006, 09:38:55 PM » by abbilynn

I use eggwhite protein powder from NOW brand and the only ingredient listed is eggwhite powder. You can also get pea protein powder. I put it in shakes for the kids to help hold them over between meals (protein lasts longer than carbs.)

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« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2007, 10:08:14 AM » by natural

Does anyone see anything wrong or bad with any if these ingredients found in Syntrax whey protein powder drink mix? i am looking for a way to get some more protein into my diet and this seems to be really reasonable on www.vitacost.com only $22.00 for a 2 lb container. Is sucralose plain sugar or splenda? Or should I say is splenda sucralose?

Other ingredients: Whey protein isolate, citric acid, natural and artificial flavors, lecithin, acesulfame-K, FD&C Red #40, sucralose, FD&C Blue #1.
A milk-derived protein; promina™ brand; ultrafiltered and undenatured; includes Beta Lactoglobulin, alpha lactoalbumin, glycomacropeptides, immunoglobulin, B.S. Albumin, protease peptone, lactoferrin, lacto peroxides.

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« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2007, 11:33:07 AM » by healthyinOhio

Quote from: natural on May 06, 2007, 10:08:14 AM

Does anyone see anything wrong or bad with any if these ingredients found in Syntrax whey protein powder drink mix?

I would be leery of the "artificial" flavorings and the food colorings added. There are many other protein options that are all natural. This is just my opinion, though.

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« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2007, 03:25:04 PM » by tnmom

Is sucralose plain sugar or splenda? Or should I say is splenda sucralose?

Splenda is a brand name for the product sucralose. It is sugar that has been processed with bleach to change its chemical make up. I read, not sure where, that it in now in the same family as pesticides.

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« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2007, 04:29:19 PM » by happy2Bhome

I have been reading wonderful things about Hemp Shocked

protein powder. Any comments? I ordered some from Nutiva (sp?) and it appears (according to label) to be an excellent source of protein and fiber. The only ingredient is Hemp (no flavors - so you'd have to mix with something). We put it in our smoothies (I sneak it in - no one has noticed). Wink

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« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2007, 05:00:07 PM » by healthybratt

Lecithin is most often the sludge left over from soy processing Tongue

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« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2007, 05:10:22 PM » by herbalmom

Quote from: natural on May 06, 2007, 10:08:14 AM

Tnmom already answered about Splenda but since you asked I have to throw in my .02 about some of the other ingredients. Acesulfame-K is an artificial sweetener that has been linked to health problems- enter acesulfame K into a search & you will not like the info you get. Artificial flavors & colors are not good for you either. Most of the other ingredients I don't know what they are but they are definitely NOT whole foods. Just my .02. Blessings ~herbalmom

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« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2007, 04:29:12 PM » by natural

Thanks to you all for your input...I guess I will default to my standard "where there is smoke, there is fire", there seems to be a lot of "smoke" with this product.

I know many of you have listed some powders here but has anyone else heard about this hemp powder....isn't hemp related to marijuana?

I don't eat red meat and very little chicken, turkey and fish...I am nursing and my stomach always seems empty... I know I need some protein in my diet ..so far i just eat pecans, almonds, sunflower seeds, yogurt ...humm that is about all of the sources of protein I get, otherwise i live of off shredded wheat and frozen fruit and salads...and yes sugary snacks that are lying around because I am so hungry and they are right there.

Any suggestions, PLEASE!!
--Starving Mommy

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« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2007, 08:06:51 PM » by healthyinOhio

Quote from: natural on May 07, 2007, 04:29:12 PM

has anyone else heard about this hemp powder....isn't hemp related to marijuana?

This may help:
http://www.gametec.com/hemp/hemp.mj.html

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« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2007, 10:31:13 PM » by Pastorswife2B

Quote from: natural on May 07, 2007, 04:29:12 PM

Is there a reason you avoid red meat and are low on meat products? It seems the easiest way to add protein would be with meat, (are you taking a b12 supplement as the only naturally occuring b12 is in red meat) also you could try adding broth's and soups. Sometimes when I'm pregnant and nursing I like to carry around a mug full of some broth based soup (could even be fish based) that's pretty thin and it's just a nice thing to sip on and keeps the hunger at bay for longer.

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« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2007, 11:15:01 PM » by mrsnoah

Isagenix has an organic whey protein powder(not shake) that has 2 ingredients. They are : Whey protein concentrate (undenatured) , and Isalyte trace minerals.

There are 20+ naturally occuring amino acids that I typed out and I timed out and lost them and I'm not retyping them. If you want to know what they are pm me.

This has 18 grams of protein and 2 g of carbs. 1 of which is sugar.

you can pm me for info or check www.marygarber.isagenix.com

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« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2007, 08:49:15 PM » by natural

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Is there a reason you avoid red meat and are low on meat products? It seems the easiest way to add protein would be with meat, (are you taking a b12 supplement as the only naturally occuring b12 is in red meat) also you could try adding broth's and soups. Sometimes when I'm pregnant and nursing I like to carry around a mug full of some broth based soup (could even be fish based) that's pretty thin and it's just a nice thing to sip on and keeps the hunger at bay for longer.-H
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Oops didn't respond to this sorry. The reason I don't eat red meat is that i lost my taste for it. I have tried to eat a bite of roast and got terrible heart burn and didn't like the taste. Now, I am having the same reaction to chicken. I had to choke it down the other day.

I have taken b 12 but dont regularily, except it is in my multiple and Supermom.

I found a whey protein powder at vitacost that is sweetened with xylitol and stevia...it is a NSI brand has anyone hear of this? what is whey isolate, is that bad for you?
thanks, Sandra

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