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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #120 on: August 21, 2007, 02:27:27 PM » by healthybratt

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What's the book The War Within mean by an inflamatory illness? Thanks

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #121 on: September 11, 2007, 07:01:21 AM » by Leah IL

Ok, I have finally read through this amazing thread and feel quite enlightened Grin

I have a question. My husband is suffers from swollen nasal passages all the time- not just seasonal. He cannot breathe normally. He does not have sinusitis, there is no infection or mucous, he just cannot breathe. It's like the holes are too small. Could this be an inflammation issue do you think? Thanks.

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #122 on: September 11, 2007, 10:30:17 AM » by Leah IL

Quote from: Leah IL on September 11, 2007, 07:01:21 AM

Ok, I have finally read through this amazing thread and feel quite enlightened Grin

After reading all morning, I am going to suggest we do an elimination diet for one month removing all grains except brown rice, all dairy, tomatoes, red meat except possibly our own lamb that we raised on grass and eggs. He already doesn't eat any wheat or sugar. He will be on board for it as he is absolutely miserable not being able to breathe. I also am going to suggest that we do a 3 day vegetable juice fast and start taking cod liver oil...not sure on the amounts of that yet. It's confusing trying to figure out how much of everything, and I still don't know if he should be taking the 3-6-9 one Huh

We also will be taking Dr. Schulze's superfood as a multivitamin every day.

I think that the increased omegas will be good for him regardless of whether or not his sinus condition improves. I am also thinking that this is food related. Anyway, thanks for all this great info on this thread. I've got a lot to go to him with now.

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #123 on: September 11, 2007, 03:48:40 PM » by DHW

I have a friend whose husband had sleep apnea-like breathing episodes, plus constant loud breathing due to swollen nasal passages. Turns out he has latent allergies to wheat, eggs, and dairy. When he dropped those three items from his diet his symptoms completely disappeared, pretty quickly, too. And he lost some weight (not unusual with food allergies).

He has not stuck with the diet, though, so his symptoms are back.

One disclaimer, though: they used standard allergy testing, I think. That probably means they missed other allergens. Also, when the most prominent allergens are eliminated other allergens may become evident.

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #124 on: September 12, 2007, 10:31:02 AM » by healthybratt

Quote from: Leah IL on September 11, 2007, 10:30:17 AM

My husband is suffers from swollen nasal passages all the time- not just seasonal. He cannot breathe normally. He does not have sinusitis, there is no infection or mucous, he just cannot breathe. It's like the holes are too small. Could this be an inflammation issue do you think?

I'd say it's quite possible.

http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,8697.msg93511.html#msg93511

Quote from: Leah IL on September 11, 2007, 10:30:17 AM

I still don't know if he should be taking the 3-6-9 one Huh

According to the book, you need to make sure that his totals add up (GLA, EPA, etc.), regardless of what form they come in.

http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,8697.msg93452.html#msg93452

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #125 on: January 31, 2008, 02:36:05 AM » by 1bolinha

I do not see Wheat on the "avoid" list yet I do see it farther down this thread. Any thoughts? I read your balanced response about the Omegas providing long-term balance as opposed to simply an elimination approach.

Quote from: ForeverGirl on June 23, 2007, 10:04:34 AM

I've been suspecting for a while already that the face rash that I dealt with last year began with an inflammation problem, which stemmed from the trauma my liver went through early last year.
I noticed that drinking tart cherry juice helped a lot, as did blueberry and pomegranate juices.

The link HB gave in her post with photos, is a really good one. For those that don't want to read through the whole thing, I'll summarize with a list I jotted down for myself:

To Eat:
Sardines
Cod
Codliver oil
Wild Salmon
Cold Pressed Olive Oil
Olives
Silica
Soil Based Organisms

Not to Eat:
Store-bought Yogurt
Alcohol
French Fries or chips or anything fried in:
Vegetable or Corn oils
Safflower, Sunflower, Soy oils
White Sugar

The book "Winning the War Within" has a list of foods that add to the inflammation problem. I saw a list in my Mom's copy that included all organ meats and dark Turkey meat, and farmed Salmon. I believe it also included eggs, which doesn't make sense to me, because eggs are Omega 3s. ? I'll be getting the book on Monday Cool

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #126 on: February 07, 2008, 02:04:54 PM » by 1bolinha

I am reading all about the inflammatory index (Chilton) and the glycemic index. I need more help. Chilton does not list wheat product on his list of foods to be avoided. Should I simply continue experimenting with the eliminiation of this too see results? And if indeed the wheat is an irritant to my hip pain, the potential combination of a wheat-free (and possibly gluten free) diet, in addition to an anti-inflammation diet seems to leave me with fishes, rice, f&v's. Am I missing something? I want to make sure I am interpreting the information correctly. Please feel free to add to it. Here is the list I have:

Foods to avoid or eat in SMALL amounts:

Vegetable Oils
Corn Oils
Milk and dairy
White Flour
Corn and corn oil
Corn fed meats, corn-fed dairy
Sugar
Red meats
Farmed salmon and wild salmon (comes up higher on Chilton list)
Butter/marg
Chocolate
foods containing sugar (syrup, honey, jelly, etc)
caffeine
potatoes
tomatoes
red peppers
citrus fruits
salt
wheat flour
bran
durum wheat
triticale (rye wheat mixture)
semolina
couscous
kamut
spelt
graham four
bulgar
barley, malt
faro
farina
polenta
batters, breaded foods
vinegar (wheat grains)
mustard and mayo (most have additives, starches, binders, thickeners, tc)
soy sauce
soy products
ready made foods
ready made sauces
seasonings
baking powder

Foods to Eat/Anti-inflammatory/Low Glycemic:
100% rye crisps (must state on package )
100% buckwheat/kasha (must state)
Rice cereals (check label)
Japanese soba noodles (check label)
Rice flour, pasta
Basmati rice, brown rice
Olive oil- extra virgin
Apples
Blackberries
Blueberries
Kiwi
Peaches
Mango
Cantaloupe
Strawberries
Bananas
most other fruits
Whole juices
Sockeye salmon/low inflamm index salmon
Tuna
Cod
Trout
Broccoli
Spinach
Brussells
Carrots
Sweet pots
Collards
Squash
lettuce
Vegs high in Vit A/C
Pumpkin seeds
Brown rice
Almonds
Chick peas
Lentils
Ginger
Garlic
Tumeric

Quote from: 1bolinha on January 31, 2008, 02:36:05 AM

Quote from: ForeverGirl on June 23, 2007, 10:04:34 AM

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #127 on: February 07, 2008, 02:44:21 PM » by morningglory

It's such a common allergy, that I would advise cutting out wheat and other gluten products. I used to have joint pain, especially in my knees. I frequently felt achy and sore. I did the Master Cleanse, and after I finished 10 days of no gluten, I ate a chocolate chip cookie and had joint pain almost instantly. In my opinion, inflammation is almost always a side effect of leaky gut, and leaky gut goes hand in hand with food allergies. I think if you cleanse for candida/leaky gut while following the inflammation diet recommendations for EFAs, you'll be pleased with the results. Hope that helps!

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #128 on: February 07, 2008, 07:24:41 PM » by 1bolinha

Thanks morningglory! I have been doing the candida regimen of YA supplements and TTU Ultimate blend for 2 months. It has helped tremendously with a few other things. Now I am trying to attack this in "phase 2" of ruling things offensive foods out. Do you eat gluten or wheat at all? Some have said on these posts that they heal the GI and are able to work it back in, but others are not able to.

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #129 on: February 07, 2008, 07:51:47 PM » by morningglory

My DS and I are totally gluten and casein free. It's my understanding that in order to heal the GI tract of food sensitivities, you must cut out the offending foods while you are cleanseing, and try them again one at a time after you are certan your intestines are healed.

IMO, most people treat the candida, but never want to invest the effort in completely healing their leaky gut, and thus not healing the food sensitivities. As far as myself, most of my inflammation problems are resolved or resolving as a result of going GF/CF. I'm using my skin as the judge. When my skin is clear, I'll know I've healed. In my case, I think I'll probably still be allergic to gluten and casein, because I have been from birth. I have hope for my son, however, because he's only two.

Hopefully, you're not allergic to anything! Healthybratt had all kinds of issues, and she ended up not being allergic to gluten and casein. I truly hope that's the case with you. But I still think it's wise to cut them out, for a month at least, and see what happens. I never had any kind of obvious reaction to milk products. I didn't even know I was allergic for a long time. But after 3 months of being GF/CF, I accidentally ate a cookie that was made with butter. I instantly felt my throat getting tight and itchy like it does when I eat nuts I'm allergic to. But I've also tried a few bites of yogurt since then, and it didn't do anything. Huh

Maybe that means I could handle raw milk and cultured dairy products. I hope you do well!

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Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #130 on: February 18, 2008, 07:36:54 PM » by 1bolinha

???There is so much information out there on the internet...some say rice is ok, and others say it's not. I feel unsure with so much of what I eat these days but want to persevere to fight the pain! Just wish I knew some reliable food list sources.

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #131 on: February 18, 2008, 10:06:15 PM » by BJ_BOBBI_JO

Oh eternal frustration. It seems as if everything except for green veggies is bad for us. Cry

So Am I understanding correctly that a good anti-inflam diet would be to only eat veggies except for corn? Why? Cry

Oh the dreaded humanity of it all!

Seriously what is a list of food we CAN eat while on an anti-inflam diet?

I had a list at one time and lost it and of course forgot it.

oops I just scrolled up and saw that list on post 129.

« Last Edit: February 18, 2008, 10:08:25 PM by BJ_BOBBI_JO »
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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #132 on: February 19, 2008, 01:21:55 PM » by 1bolinha

The Chilton glycemic index included in his book Inflammation Nation, only lists animal related foods (meat and dairy). I have searched for other food lists and have found overlapping similarities as listed a few posts above in my food list. I will switch to Brown rice and quinoa. I think more research is needed on my end. I also started a new topic under "recipes, menus, and diet plans" with the title "Anti-Inflammation and Gluten/Casein Free Diet Overlap." I'll see if anyone has ideas for this.

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #133 on: February 19, 2008, 09:55:03 PM » by DHW

I just got this in an email from HSI today:

Dietary choices that evenly balance omega-3 fatty acid intake with omega-6 intake may offer the best first step in managing inflammation...

Vitamin C might also help the effort.

In a 2006 report in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, UK researchers...found high fruit consumption to be linked with a 25 percent reduced risk of inflammation, while inflammation risk was nearly cut in half among those who had high blood levels of vitamin C.

...Research from Tufts University that reveals another inflammation tamer: vitamin K.

When the Tufts team examined dietary and medical records of more than 1,380 middle-aged subjects, they found that a high intake of foods that contain vitamin K was linked to lower levels of 14 inflammatory markers, including CRP.

Vitamin K can be found in leafy green vegetables, broccoli, asparagus, tomatoes, avocados, olive oil, whole wheat, butter, meat, liver, egg yolk, and fermented products such as yogurt and cheese.

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #134 on: April 07, 2008, 12:03:47 PM » by InEverything

Has anyone tried doing megadoses of omega 3's? For example, in one article, Mercola recommended 1 1000mg fish oil capsule for every ten pounds of body weight. I have the Costco brand of Fish Oil, which is supposedly pure of contaminants. So far I am only taking 6 a day.
Has anyone tried taking even larger amounts?
I have taken small amounts of flax oil and fish oil in the past for inflammation with no results. What I have been reading recently is that you need to start out with large amounts for at least a month. I know this holds true to other vitamin deficiencies. Maybe I wasn't taking nearly enough?
I also read that mothers lose their "reserve" of omega 3s with pregnancy, becoming very deficient over time.
This makes a lot of sense to me...does anyone have an opinion on this?

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #135 on: April 07, 2008, 12:40:33 PM » by healthybratt

Quote from: InEverything on April 07, 2008, 12:03:47 PM

You might get some answers to your questions on this thread.

http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,9697.0.html

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #136 on: April 07, 2008, 12:48:38 PM » by Kitty

Oops! HB beat me to it. Wink

That's a good thread...here's one more...check for posts by ForeverGirl, too:

http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,2323.msg20368.html#msg20368

I've taken higher doses at times, not sure if they're in line w/ what you're talking about...mine was to treat eczema, and it worked well.

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #137 on: April 07, 2008, 12:57:25 PM » by InEverything

Quote from: healthybratt on April 07, 2008, 12:40:33 PM

Quote from: InEverything on April 07, 2008, 12:03:47 PM

You might get some answers to your questions on this thread.

http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,9697.0.html

Thanks HB and Yooper-- Those threads are informative. I think I will play around with the dosages and see what works for me. I will continue with the fish oil capsules since that it what we have on hand. I will post somewhere if I have good results

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #138 on: April 07, 2008, 07:35:45 PM » by likemanywaters

Good Evening.

Any thoughts on sinus inflammation / runny nose and diet? Mainly at night, light snoring, runny nose in a 3.5 yo. Also, just wanted this thread to show up in my replies Wink

Thanks.

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #139 on: May 23, 2008, 05:38:43 PM » by momofkings

I have been seeing a lot about Evening Primrose Oil from many different sources lately. I am a little confused about it. I understand that it is an Omega 6, but from everything I have read most of us have an overabundance of Omega 6. I take Cod Liver Oil to increase Omega 3 intake, why do I need extra Omega 6? Also, I am 3 months post partum, is it safe to take while nursing? I think I read it was only to be taken certain times during the cycle, of which mine have not returned. Also, I believe I read it is not safe to take while pregnant? Does it have hormonal properties? I initially looked into it for inflammation issues but it seems like it comes up in fertility discussions as well. I guess I am just getting more confused the more I read about it. Anyone able to help me understand it a little better?

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #140 on: May 24, 2008, 10:49:40 AM » by momofkings

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #141 on: June 01, 2008, 07:49:35 AM » by momofkings

Anyone??

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #142 on: June 01, 2008, 09:00:53 AM » by Whiterock

Have you read the evening primrose oil thread? Maybe you should ask over there.
http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,1848.0.html

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #143 on: June 26, 2008, 10:12:57 AM » by its_me518

Ok. This thread has way too much info on it! Wink

Can some clear something up for me??

Apparantly, my husband has "brusitis" around his knee & ankles. In order to reduce the inflammation he needs to be taking Cod Liver Oil (along w/other stuff). So my question is this: What does he need to take along w/it to make the balance? Should he take a Evening Primrose supplement? Would Coconut Oil do it??? Huh

We have the Garden Of Life Cod Liver Oil.

This is per TSP:

Total Omega-3
Fatty Acids: 962 mg
DHA: 453 mg
EPA: 320 mg

Another thing: my son NEEDS CLO, what do I balance his out with???

Please help me undestand this. Embarrassed

Thanks so much!

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #144 on: June 26, 2008, 01:29:05 PM » by healthybratt

Quote from: its_me518 on June 26, 2008, 10:12:57 AM

Ok. This thread has way too much info on it! Wink

Can some clear something up for me??

These should help.

Inflammation & Diet [Recommended Dosages & Diet]
Essential Fatty Acid (EFA) Daily Intake Log: Schedules & Effects

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #145 on: June 26, 2008, 01:39:48 PM » by its_me518

Quote from: healthybratt on June 26, 2008, 01:29:05 PM

Quote from: its_me518 on June 26, 2008, 10:12:57 AM

Ok. This thread has way too much info on it! Wink

Can some clear something up for me??

These should help.

Inflammation & Diet [Recommended Dosages & Diet]
Essential Fatty Acid (EFA) Daily Intake Log: Schedules & Effects

Actually, I've already looked at those threads. So let me ask another question. If my husband was just taking Cod Liver Oil, can he just take that by itself without having to balance it out with something else?

Or will that do more harm than good?

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #146 on: June 26, 2008, 01:43:11 PM » by healthybratt

Quote from: its_me518 on June 26, 2008, 01:39:48 PM

Quote from: healthybratt on June 26, 2008, 01:29:05 PM

Quote from: its_me518 on June 26, 2008, 10:12:57 AM

Ok. This thread has way too much info on it! Wink

Can some clear something up for me??

These should help.

Inflammation & Diet [Recommended Dosages & Diet]
Essential Fatty Acid (EFA) Daily Intake Log: Schedules & Effects

The link I gave was a reply with exact dosages. If you look at my response in the 2nd thread, you can see how I mixed them to get the right dosages.

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #147 on: June 29, 2008, 01:05:13 AM » by momto4girls

What omega are the cashews?

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #148 on: June 29, 2008, 09:47:47 AM » by healthybratt

Quote from: momto3girls on June 29, 2008, 01:05:13 AM

What omega are the cashews?

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It is misleading to suggest, as Erica Weir and associates1 have done in a recent Public Health article, that nuts and seeds (other than flaxseed) are sources of omega-3 fatty acids. One hundred grams of the oil extracted from the most common nuts (peanut, coconut, almond, hazel, Brazil and cashew) would provide about 900 kcal of energy but no omega-3 fatty acids. Of the oils from these nuts, that of cashew has the highest omega-3 fatty acid content, at only 0.14 g/100 g.2 The only nuts that are good sources of omega-3 fatty acid are walnut (10.4% of the oil)2 and the almost-extinct butternut.

from http://www.cmaj.ca/cgi/content/full/171/8/829

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Nuts & Seeds

While all nuts and seeds are tasty and health-giving - not all of them are going to promote a healthy fatty acid profile in your body, nor help to keep weight down, skin soft and hair thick. This is because some of them are too high in omega-6 fatty acids, and may throw out the omega-3/omega-6 ratio, causing inflammation and long-term problems.

The walnut, being the only nut which has omega-3 oil present in it, also has some omega-6 and omega-9 present too. The only two seeds containing some omega-3 would be flaxseeds and pumpkin seeds. Remember that these are all the unconverted form of omega-3, and while they may help some people, others will have problems converting them to the EPA/DHA/GLA they need in the body to prevent inflammation. If therapeutic effect is needed (as in inflammation, cancer etc) fish oil should always be used for this purpose...

Cashews
Cashews have a much lower fat content than most other nuts. Approximately 65% of the fat content is derived from unsaturated fatty acids. Although lower in vitamin E and calcium than some other nuts, their potassium, magnesium, iron and zinc levels are excellent. Because of their high content of oleic acid, cashews are more stable than most other nuts. Have you ever wondered why the nuts are sold out of their shells? The outer shell needs to be removed due to the fact that it contains a caustic oil that can damage the skin when touched.

from http://www.sallyanncreed.co.za/Nuts%20&%20Seeds.htm

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Re: Inflammation & Diet
« Reply #149 on: July 03, 2008, 08:09:57 PM » by momto4girls

Alright, I've read through all of the info. I think I understand it. Just one question left in my mind, which I'm sure I already know the answer to, but am NOT 100%.

Do you have to take the Omega 3 at the same time as you take Omega 6? Or is it ok to just take it throughout the day?

Example:
I take some CLO capsules after breakfasts. Is it better for me to take the EPO at the same time. Or is it better to let the CLO get absorbed over a couple of hours and then take the EPO after lunch?

I just don't want take the EPO and have it cause me harm instead of good, just because I didn't take it at the same time with the CLO.

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