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« Reply #90 on: June 27, 2007, 05:45:58 PM » by morningglory
My sister just got back from Kenya.  As soon as she got home, she got killer diarrhea and cramps Lips Sealed.  She's been to the doctor, who suspects parasites, and they took a stool sample.  The results won't be in for a week, and they haven't written a prescription for her or anything Sad.  She's coming to stay with us tomorrow.  I bought her Para-Cleanse by Nature's Sunshine to try, because that's a long time to be that sick. The ingredients include pumpkin seed, black walnut hulls, cascara sagrada bark, violet leaves, chamomile, mullein, marshmallow root, slippery elm, echinacea, Pau D'Arco, garlic, oregano, elecampane, mugwort, clove, ginger, spearmint, turmeric, olive leaf, and paw paw twig.  I thought that sounded AWESOME.  She takes 6 capsules twice a day for ten days, rest for ten days, then takes the capsules again for ten days.  My sister wants to know if you all think that prescription meds would be more effective than herbs Huh.  She's worried that this parasite will be harder to kill because it's from Kenya.  I thought all parasites were created equal Tongue.  She just needs to be reassured by some of you that have much more experience than I do. 

 She also wondered if she would be nauseated.  I said probably from die-off, but then I saw the ginger and other herbs that would help with that.  She also has some Ultimate Defense probiotics to take.  What do ya'll think?

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« Reply #92 on: June 28, 2007, 08:36:54 AM » by healthybratt

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Quote from: morningglory on June 27, 2007, 05:45:58 PM
My sister just got back from Kenya.  As soon as she got home, she got killer diarrhea and cramps Lips Sealed.  She's been to the doctor, who suspects parasites, and they took a stool sample.  The results won't be in for a week, and they haven't written a prescription for her or anything Sad.  She's coming to stay with us tomorrow.  I bought her Para-Cleanse by Nature's Sunshine to try, because that's a long time to be that sick. The ingredients include pumpkin seed, black walnut hulls, cascara sagrada bark, violet leaves, chamomile, mullein, marshmallow root, slippery elm, echinacea, Pau D'Arco, garlic, oregano, elecampane, mugwort, clove, ginger, spearmint, turmeric, olive leaf, and paw paw twig.  I thought that sounded AWESOME.  She takes 6 capsules twice a day for ten days, rest for ten days, then takes the capsules again for ten days.  My sister wants to know if you all think that prescription meds would be more effective than herbs Huh.  She's worried that this parasite will be harder to kill because it's from Kenya.  I thought all parasites were created equal Tongue.  She just needs to be reassured by some of you that have much more experience than I do.

 She also wondered if she would be nauseated.  I said probably from die-off, but then I saw the ginger and other herbs that would help with that.  She also has some Ultimate Defense probiotics to take.  What do ya'll think?
Sounds like a pretty good regimen.  You might want to add some good probiotics to accompany. 
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« Reply #93 on: August 21, 2007, 05:20:25 PM » by Marisa
Been searching and couldn't find out why to avoid coffee while on a parasite cleanse. Anyone know?
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« Reply #94 on: August 21, 2007, 06:33:22 PM » by healthyinOhio
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Been searching and couldn't find out why to avoid coffee while on a parasite cleanse. Anyone know?
Thanks!

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« Reply #95 on: August 22, 2007, 10:00:29 AM » by healthybratt

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Been searching and couldn't find out why to avoid coffee while on a parasite cleanse. Anyone know?
Thanks!
My guess is because caffeine stimulates bile production in the liver. 
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« Reply #96 on: August 24, 2007, 12:05:02 PM » by papercraftr
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I was wondering what I could do . . . . .  any suggestions for keeping my kids clean from parasites? Smiley

We live in the country and use coconut oil regularly in our diet.  In India, coconut oil/flour is used to knock parasites.  Suggested daily is 3-4 T.  We fry with it, put it our smoothies, also make POWER Granola (has coconut oil and coconut flour (recipe here:   http://www.thehomegrownfamily.com/catalog/Power%20Granola.htm), use it in our regular recipes like regular cooking oil, 1:1 ratio.  We carry it on our website (below).

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« Reply #97 on: September 15, 2007, 07:35:52 PM » by BJ_BOBBI_JO

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I am about to give TMI so if you have a weak stomach don't read on!  Wink

I typed on WTM elsewhere that I have the stomche flu. For 2 days I had endless diarrhea. Now today the 3rd day I have formed turds but they are soft. What is weird about them is this :

-there are white balls about the size of corn kernels and smaller in the poop. Real white not off white. I have not eaten corn in a  long while.

-sometimes there is white patches on the turds

-slimy stuff on the toilet paper and poop

-I am pooping very very often. I don't know where it is all coming from since I cant hardly eat. My 4 year old just started up with the symptoms today. I already gave her some peppermint oil water for her belly.

Could it be that this explosive diarrhea stomach virus is not only making me poop endlessly but also washing out some parasites? Does that happen?

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« Reply #98 on: September 16, 2007, 04:07:00 PM » by hodgy
Quote from: BJ_BOBBI_JO on September 15, 2007, 07:35:52 PM
I am about to give TMI so if you have a weak stomach don't read on!  Wink

I typed on WTM elsewhere that I have the stomche flu. For 2 days I had endless diarrhea. Now today the 3rd day I have formed turds but they are soft. What is weird about them is this :

-there are white balls about the size of corn kernels and smaller in the poop. Real white not off white. I have not eaten corn in a  long while.

-sometimes there is white patches on the turds

-slimy stuff on the toilet paper and poop

-I am pooping very very often. I don't know where it is all coming from since I cant hardly eat. My 4 year old just started up with the symptoms today. I already gave her some peppermint oil water for her belly.

Could it be that this explosive diarrhea stomach virus is not only making me poop endlessly but also washing out some parasites? Does that happen?



I could be mistaken so just correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you state elsewhere that you are taking antibiotics for cellulitis?  If that is the case, then they will cause the mucus lining of the gut to come out in the stool.  That could explain the "slimeys".  As far as the white fuzzy things that could also be parts the lining of the intesines breaking off.  Some believe them to be "yeast" or parasites but others believe they are just a normal phenomon that occur in all of us.  HTH
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« Reply #99 on: September 16, 2007, 04:30:54 PM » by BJ_BOBBI_JO

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Hodgy- I had not thought about it possibly being yeast. I have been de-yeasting since Feb 2006 but it seems to be a non stop battle. I think I have a build up of many many years of yeast and it will take many years to get control of it. Yep I was on a strong antibiotic for cellulites. I took myself off it but the doc told me to stop taking it later on anyways as well because of its affects, My infection looks real good and I think that is because of the herbs and stuff I learned about on here to do.  Smiley

But because I also have a bladder infection the doc put me on just a mild antibiotic for that. I cant drink cranberry juice because it is to high in carbs and I cant eat anything so I'm kind of stuck there. If I drink some broth and then I can choke and gag down the antibiotic. They are so bad for ppl and just not good if one can avoid it. This stomach flu is killing me. My husband is all freaked out and worried about me getting dehydrated because my eyes are getting dark circles and looking bad. The abdominal cramps are almost as bad as end stage labor, they come in waves. I have been wallering in peppermint oil, putting it in my belly button and rubbing it all over my abdomen, it helps bring the pain down but I have to do it often like every hour or so.

I believe the yeast theory is very possible. I have been told that when parasites die they put off a toxin in our bodies that make us sick. Does anyone know if that die off sickness could include fever?
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« Reply #100 on: September 16, 2007, 07:29:23 PM » by prairiechild
There really is no actual "stomach flu". If you are on an antibiotic, you could have c. dificile which is caused by killing off good bacteria which allows overgrowth of c.dificile.

If you are dehydrated, try squeezing a lemon into water and add about a fourth teaspoon of sea salt and at least a pinch of sugar. It is an excellent hydrating drink.

C.diff causes horrible uncontrolled diarrhea. I don't know of any home remedies for that and if it was me I would contact my doctor.
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« Reply #101 on: September 17, 2007, 08:42:05 AM » by 4myhoonie
Quote from: prairiechild on September 16, 2007, 07:29:23 PM
C.diff causes horrible uncontrolled diarrhea. I don't know of any home remedies for that and if it was me I would contact my doctor.

have you tried tummy tune up yet?  it has worked for me on several occasions. 
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« Reply #102 on: September 19, 2007, 07:16:18 PM » by Whiterock
Help!!!!!

Alright, I was getting ready to put my 5mo down to sleep so I put him in a disposable diaper and took him to the kitchen with me because he wasn't real sleepy yet. Then he had a BM. I was glad he waited 'til I had put the disposable on, but when I opened it up there were gobs of little, dark colored, worms.  Shocked 

None of them were moving so I am assuming they are all dead, but I am shocked. He is five months old and almost exclusively breastfed with only a very rare taste of egg yolk or banana. The only way I can think that he got the worms, is one day his older bother put him down on his tummy in the grass. He got some dirt and grass in his mouth.

And even more of a mystery is what killed them? I've been drinking a lot of 'bucha and kefir lately, but I don't see how that would have killed them. I do give him CLO but that's not known to kill parasites.

Anyway, I'm not counting on them all being gone just because they were dead and a lot of them came out all at once. So I'm going to start giving him daily doses of VCO 'cause I've heard it kills parasites and because I know babies can digest it without any trouble. But what else can I give him that is safe for a baby this young?

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« Reply #103 on: September 19, 2007, 07:30:10 PM » by seeker
Quote from: Whiterock on September 19, 2007, 07:16:18 PM
Help!!!!!

Alright, I was getting ready to put my 5mo down to sleep so I put him in a disposable diaper and took him to the kitchen with me because he wasn't real sleepy yet. Then he had a BM. I was glad he wanted 'til I had put the disposable on, but when I opened it up there were gobs of little, dark colored, worms.  Shocked 

None of them were moving so I am assuming they are all dead, but I am shocked. He is five months old and almost exclusively breastfed with only a very rare taste of egg yolk or banana. The only way I can think that he got the worms, is one day his older bother put him down on his tummy in the grass. He got some dirt and grass in his mouth.


WR

Do you think maybe it's just from the banana? I know that my babies, when they eat bananas, have dark wormy looking things in their stools.
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« Reply #104 on: September 19, 2007, 07:44:10 PM » by Marisa
What's vco?
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« Reply #106 on: September 19, 2007, 08:19:50 PM » by Whiterock
Really?! I never heard of that before. What in the banana causes that?

It had just occurred to me that I had a had a good amount of ginger two days in a row. And so I was thinking maybe it had made its way into my milk and then killed these "worms". Now I'm not sure they really are worms.

WR

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Quote from: Whiterock on September 19, 2007, 07:16:18 PM
Help!!!!!

Alright, I was getting ready to put my 5mo down to sleep so I put him in a disposable diaper and took him to the kitchen with me because he wasn't real sleepy yet. Then he had a BM. I was glad he wanted 'til I had put the disposable on, but when I opened it up there were gobs of little, dark colored, worms.  Shocked 

None of them were moving so I am assuming they are all dead, but I am shocked. He is five months old and almost exclusively breastfed with only a very rare taste of egg yolk or banana. The only way I can think that he got the worms, is one day his older bother put him down on his tummy in the grass. He got some dirt and grass in his mouth.


WR

Do you think maybe it's just from the banana? I know that my babies, when they eat bananas, have dark wormy looking things in their stools.
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« Reply #107 on: September 19, 2007, 08:24:37 PM » by seeker
Quote from: Whiterock on September 19, 2007, 08:19:50 PM
Really?! I never heard of that before. What in the banana causes that?

It had just occurred to me that I had a had a good amount of ginger two days in a row. And so I was thinking maybe it had made its way into my milk and then killed these "worms". Now I'm not sure they really are worms.

WR

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Do you think maybe it's just from the banana? I know that my babies, when they eat bananas, have dark wormy looking things in their stools.

I don't know what in the banana would cause that. Check out this thread: 
http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,7486.msg79247.html#msg79247
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« Reply #108 on: September 19, 2007, 09:01:57 PM » by Whiterock
I did an internet search and found that it is fiber in the banana that goes thru undigested and oxidizes (turns dark). Whew! I think that's what it is and boy am I relieved. Thanks seeker! You ladies rock! I love this site!
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« Reply #109 on: September 19, 2007, 09:09:23 PM » by lotsaboys

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I did an internet search and found that it is fiber in the banana that goes thru undigested and oxidizes (turns dark). Whew! I think that's what it is and boy am I relieved. Thanks seeker! You ladies rock! I love this site!
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I'm relieved for you. Smiley I'm sure I've seen that in a lot of diapers, but never thought of parasites. Probably because I didn't know the half of what I do now that I'm on WTM! LOL Roll Eyes Grin
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« Reply #110 on: September 21, 2007, 12:37:52 AM » by healthybratt

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I did an internet search and found that it is fiber in the banana that goes thru undigested and oxidizes (turns dark). Whew! I think that's what it is and boy am I relieved. Thanks seeker! You ladies rock! I love this site!
WR
This just reminded me that excessive ingestion of Mandarin oranges will cause the diaper to appear to have pinworms.  Grin
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« Reply #111 on: September 21, 2007, 12:53:22 AM » by Kitty
Quote from: healthybratt on September 21, 2007, 12:37:52 AM
Quote from: Whiterock on September 19, 2007, 09:01:57 PM
I did an internet search and found that it is fiber in the banana that goes thru undigested and oxidizes (turns dark). Whew! I think that's what it is and boy am I relieved. Thanks seeker! You ladies rock! I love this site!  WR
This just reminded me that excessive ingestion of Mandarin oranges will cause the diaper to appear to have pinworms.  Grin
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« Reply #112 on: September 21, 2007, 08:17:22 AM » by lotsaboys

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Quote from: Whiterock on September 19, 2007, 09:01:57 PM
I did an internet search and found that it is fiber in the banana that goes thru undigested and oxidizes (turns dark). Whew! I think that's what it is and boy am I relieved. Thanks seeker! You ladies rock! I love this site!
WR
This just reminded me that excessive ingestion of Mandarin oranges will cause the diaper to appear to have pinworms.  Grin

Do you know that from experience or hearsay?  Cheesy
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« Reply #113 on: September 21, 2007, 10:45:01 AM » by healthybratt

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Quote from: healthybratt on September 21, 2007, 12:37:52 AM
Quote from: Whiterock on September 19, 2007, 09:01:57 PM
I did an internet search and found that it is fiber in the banana that goes thru undigested and oxidizes (turns dark). Whew! I think that's what it is and boy am I relieved. Thanks seeker! You ladies rock! I love this site!
WR
This just reminded me that excessive ingestion of Mandarin oranges will cause the diaper to appear to have pinworms.  Grin

Do you know that from experience or hearsay?  Cheesy
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« Reply #114 on: September 24, 2007, 12:48:18 PM » by BJ_BOBBI_JO

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anti-parasite supplements and using the doctor prescribed anti-parasite pills?

What are the pills the missionaries are always giving the parasite infested ppl in the poor countries?

I have heard missionaries talking about how 1000s of ppl they see at the health clinics only need a pill that cost $1.75 to kill off the parasites that are killing the people. What pills could that be?
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« Reply #115 on: September 24, 2007, 01:03:48 PM » by healthybratt

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What is the difference between using herbal
anti-parasite supplements and using the doctor prescribed anti-parasite pills?

What are the pills the missionaries are always giving the parasite infested ppl in the poor countries?

I have heard missionaries talking about how 1000s of ppl they see at the health clinics only need a pill that cost $1.75 to kill off the parasites that are killing the people. What pills could that be?
Maybe this will give you some help.

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« Reply #116 on: December 31, 2007, 10:57:44 AM » by khix
Hi.  Someone in our family has worms....probably either tapeworm or pinworm....no idea where they got it from, maybe from contaminated food, or petting a neighborhood dog, who knows.  Anyway, after going through this thread, and other related threads, and finding all possible treatments and discussing the options with this person, we have come to the conclusion that we can't afford to buy pills/tinctures/herbs.  It's just too expensive.  (not only that, this person can't swallow big pills) The cheapest/easiest route is to eat some of the foods mentioned...however, this person is VERY picky, and is only willing to eat pineapples & figs.  So, my question is - will pineapples & figs do the trick?  If so, how much should be eaten & for how long? 
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« Reply #117 on: December 31, 2007, 12:56:07 PM » by morningglory
I don't know about the pineapples and figs, but I k now enemas alone have helped my parasite problem.  Even with just distilled water I pass pinworms.  DH has had success with pumpkin seeds.  You can buy a bag of roasted salted pumpkin seeds for about $1.50.  They taste really good.   He can tell they're working because he gets what he calls "booty itch." Lips Sealed
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« Reply #118 on: December 31, 2007, 04:03:34 PM » by khix
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I don't know about the pineapples and figs, but I k now enemas alone have helped my parasite problem.  Even with just distilled water I pass pinworms.  DH has had success with pumpkin seeds.  You can buy a bag of roasted salted pumpkin seeds for about $1.50.  They taste really good.   He can tell they're working because he gets what he calls "booty itch." Lips Sealed

Thank you for the suggestion, but I believe this person in my family would rather get a root canal than get an enema!  So, enemas are out of the question.  I know about the pumpkin seeds, and I made this suggestion several times, but it was turned down flat.  This person will only eat the pineapples & figs.  I am going to store later on today or tomorrow & will the pineapple & figs, and hope/pray that it helps.  But, please, if anyone else has any more info, I'd be much appreciative! 
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« Reply #119 on: January 12, 2008, 02:33:42 PM » by healthybratt

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Quote from: morningglory on December 31, 2007, 12:56:07 PM
I don't know about the pineapples and figs, but I k now enemas alone have helped my parasite problem.  Even with just distilled water I pass pinworms.  DH has had success with pumpkin seeds.  You can buy a bag of roasted salted pumpkin seeds for about $1.50.  They taste really good.   He can tell they're working because he gets what he calls "booty itch." Lips Sealed

Thank you for the suggestion, but I believe this person in my family would rather get a root canal than get an enema!  So, enemas are out of the question.  I know about the pumpkin seeds, and I made this suggestion several times, but it was turned down flat.  This person will only eat the pineapples & figs.  I am going to store later on today or tomorrow & will the pineapple & figs, and hope/pray that it helps.  But, please, if anyone else has any more info, I'd be much appreciative! 
I don't know if figs and pineapple will kill ALL parasites, but I think it might be a pretty good idea to find out whether it's pin worms or a tape worm.  They are quite different.  One can get very large and cause the host to become obese or suffer from malnutrition.  This is very serious.  Pinworms on the other hand are "contagious" because of their spawning habits.  Sheets and clothing need to be washed and treated along with the patient else others may become infected.
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